Audigy Card Defecti

I have an HP Vectra VL800 P4-.5Mhz with 768Mb running Win XP Pro, until recently my older Audigy Gamer (~-/2yrs old) was working fine until I added a new 300GB SATA hard dri've. Due to its age, the system required an SATA host adapter.
After several unsuccessful attempts to install the new hard dri've, I finally had to reformat the system and start clean. This time the SATA host adapter accepted the drivers and worked, however the Audigy Gamer didn't. All the other components work fine. The device manager shows the card as a Multimedia Audio Controller and the firewire port as a 394 Network Adapter with exclamation marks.
Every attempt to install the drivers results in the same problem, the driver installation package fails to find the card and quits. I did finally manage to "force" the card to find the drivers manaually but it did not work properly, no rear speakers or 5. sound.
I have tried everything including:
> Removed all unnecessary hardware to free up resources by re-arranging and testing each and every card within various locations (lan, I/O parallel/serial card, USB 2.0, SATA host adapter and Audigy Gamer) to determine if any IRQ interupts were the root cause with no success.
> Tried a cleansweep and reinstalling just the card without any others, still not success.
> Tried various versions of drivers downloaded from Creative's website.
> Disabled all unused on-board devices including motherboard resident sound and serial ports.
> Reset AGP Aperture Size to lowest possible setting, updated the system BIOS and lowered the video card acceleration, no luck.
> The same situation occurs when I installed the Audigy Gamer in another system. Should I interpret this mean the card is shot?
Thanks

was having my problom again today with the sound maxing out and i could not tern it back down so i tride holding down "SHIFT" when i changed the valume and i stayed where i wanted it somthing like in some websites where i need to hold shift to go forworde to a download or Pic google popup perhaps blocking my sound out?

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After the call had ended, I received a simple email with her phone number so that I could contact her if I needed to. Another automated email contained my repair case number and a link to check the status online. The online status center is very easy to use. It displayed three steps: Sending the empty box, service in progress and return. FedEx tracking numbers were included with working links.
The next day an empty box arrived, completely with graphical IKEA like packaging instructions and form fitting foam for my MacBook Pro. I knew when the FedEx truck came around, so I had my computer ready by my side. As soon as FedEx showed up, I explained that the empty box was for the computer and Marcos helped me apply the pre-paid return label and taped the box expertly with tape from his truck. I also placed in the box a copy of the Apple Knoweldge base article and pictures I had taken of the issue.
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The next day I logged into the online support status at Apple.com and checked my status. The tracking number showed it had arrived in Houston, and the three steps had been updated to "Repairs completed" and "Return in progress."
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Setup could not detect any Sound Blaster Audigy card on your system

Hi from Barcelona!
I've a Soun Blaster Audigy card (Model: SB0090)
I tried to install the Audigy software and drivers from the original product CD but Setup was unable to find Augigy hardware and halted the installation!
"Setup could not detect any Sound Blaster card on your system. Please ensure that your Sound Blaster hardware is properly installed before running this Setup program"
By the way. Manually the sound drivers can be installed working only front speakers of the 5. Creative system
I tried a clean installation of Windows XP and Windows 2000 PRO (reformatted the hard dri've) but Audigy install CD still could not find Audigy hardware.
I've changed the card to a different PCI slot with the same results!!! Damaged?
What is happening? I need a solution!! Many users have this problem to with other Sound Blaster cards and models...

ADSLNEW wrote:
It seems to be an important BUG of Creative Sound Blaster Audigy cards related with EEPROM!!!
Yes, indeed, that is my theory as well. After much ****hing and on-line research, it seems that this problem has been around since 2002. From Creative Labs point of view, it appears they view this as "pilot error" -- the user has installed the card in a system that is not fully compliant with the latest standards -- specifically Microsofts ACPI (configuration and power management). A wide variety of configurations and/or actions seem to cause the PCI subsystem ID in the Audigy EEPROM to be erroneously overwritten -- including certain older motherboards, certain older PCI cards, and perhaps other actions.
Once the subsystem ID in the EEPROM is overwritten and has garbage information, many or all of the Creative applications cease working and various sound problems can arise. Attempts to reinstall the driver or update to the latest driver consistently fail becuase of the dreaded "Setup could not detect any Sound Blaster Audigy card in your system..." error message.
There appear to be four fixes:
) Get a replacement Audigy card from Creative, but <EM>only</EM> after you perform their prescribed troubleshooting steps to prove that the card is indeed the source of the problem. Apparently, the steps include installing the card in another PC. Apparently, Creative in Europe is more willing to replace your card than Creative in the US. It's up to Creative Labs whether or not they issue you an RMA ("Return Material Authorization").
However, this fix will fail if the root causes of the EEPROM error are not corrected. Apparently, Creative Tech Support isn't always a foolproof source of guidance, so the burden is on you. The root cause MUST be corrected before the new card is installed, or the same problem will happen all over again. Eliminating the root cause may involve replacing your motherboard, replacing other PCI cards, or manual configuration (disabling ACPI).
2) Reprogramming the EEPROM. This is for advanced PC owners only, because it involves desoldering the EEPROM, programming it, and resoldering (and even lifting some pins to prevent reprogramming). There are instructions on how to do this posted in the German Creative Labs discussion board, by a Russian (!). I have links for those who are interested.
3) Removing the Creative drivers and software (using Clean Sweep procedures and third party utilities), updating again using Windows XP SP2, then physically moving the card to different PCI slots (multiple times if necessary), until ACPI Bios writes the proper information into the EEPROM. You can then reload the drivers.
Again, the root causes of the problem must be removed or your fix will only be temporary (a day or two). This solution also seems to be very dependent on the specifics of your system (motherboard, PCI cards, etc.).
4) Some people have had success in by-passing the step in the driver installation process where they check for the Audigy card subsystem ID, using a utility called CTZAPxx on the installation CD. Then then manually install each of the applications they need to use.
5) Use the open source driver from the kX Project (http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/index.php). This driver (and associated utilities) does not depend on the detailed configuration of the card (i.e. they don't check subsystem ID) and appear to work fine even with cards with corrupted EEPROM.
This driver is aimed primarily at computer music applications, and opens up the on-card signal processing capabilities. The downside is that the Audigy 2 ZS does not have all of it's capabilities supported <EM>yet </EM>(e.g. Dolby Digital decoding, S/PIF passthrough, possibly some game sound features, THX, 24-bit recording, support for Hyperthreading CPUs, etc.). But scanning over the discussion boards, the user community seems to be MUCH happier with the performance and support associated with these drivers than with Creative's.
This is the direction I'm going. I'm not a big gamer and I don't really care about the latest in home theater audio performance. Basic 5. surround sound is all I care about, and I'm much more interested in computer music capabilities.
I have also lost faith in Creative Labs as a vendor to provide the support I want and need going forward. Just imagine if the Creative Labs were running the Space Shuttle program :smileysurprised:.

Windows 7 does not like my Audigy Card at all

Hey guys,
Got too excited and went out and bought Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - fantastic. Problem is, I have no sound - my Asus Rampage Formula motherboard has no onboard sound as it comes with a seperate sound card which won't work and neither will the cheapy Audigy standard one I bought today to try...
7 automatically installs some drivers when it detects I have a sound card installed and sticks it in the Device Manager under 'System Devices' and calls it a 'High Definition Audio Controller'
Now I found the new Win 7 drivers on here and downloaded in the hope of installing and overwriting this 'Hi Def Audio Controller' but when i'm in setup I get the error message "Setup is unable to detect a supported product on your system. Please ensure that your product is properly installed before running this Setup Program. Setup will exit" which is completely baffling me as Win7 can detect and install this 'audio controller' - when I hover over the volume icon in the taskbar (which incidentally has a red cross over it) it says 'No audio output is installed"
I'm probably going wrong somewhere, but I don't know if its Win7 or these "Windows 7" drivers don't actually work?
Please can anyone help?!!

Re: Windows 7 does not like my Audigy Card at all^ Perhaps you can try this:
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=0960"]http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=0960[/url]
Yes I know that that is a standard driver from Creative. But try to download the driver. Then right click it, and extract it. You can extract it like this if you have WINRAR, WINACE, or WINZIP on your system. Even the free 7-zip will work great.
Then go to device manager, and then to your unknown device, and then update driver, and then choose "have disk....." and browse to the folder where you unzipped the driver. Then install the driver, allowing it to copy the files over to your system. Reboot. Sound may still not be working at this point. Then try windows update or the Daniel K. pack again. Using this method may seem weird but I am trying to "trick" your system into picking up your Audigy.
This worked for me before with my x-fi Titanim and my Extreme gamer when I switched to Vista 64.

Installing Audigy Card on K7T Turbo2

K7T Turbo2 mobo w/ V3.6 BIOS installed
1 gb PC133 SDRam (2 512's)
ATI Radeon 9500 Pro agp Graphics (128 mb)
SB Audigy gamer PCI sound
RealTek 10/100 nic pci
Win 2K SP4
Antec True Power 550 (550w) PS
WD 800JB as stand alone
WD 400BB in line with Sony 16x DVD player
DC output +5v (0A - 40A)
DC output +12v (0.8A - 24A)
DC output +3.3v (0A - 32A)
DC output -5v (0A - 0.5A)
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DC output +5v sb (0A - 2A)
Did a clean reinstall of Win2k because I felt there had been too many hardware changes since the original installation. Evidently, while I was trying to get a XP 2600+ 333 recognized as a 2600+ (I learned in the BIOS forum that this wasn't possible) the onboard sound became enabled in BIOS.
I did the reinstall without the sound card. I then attempted to add it, but of course I had a conflict between the Audigy card and the AC97 onboard. After I figured out that the onboard sound was enabled, I disabled it in BIOS. I went to safe mode and removed all hardware related to sound and all software related to Creative. I shut down again- removed the audigy card - restarted. Shut down again, inserted the audigy card in a different slot (also tried original slot). Windows doesn't recognize it. It does see a "multimedia audio controller" that I cannot find a driver for. If I cancel out of that driver installation and try to install the Creative software it advises that no sound blaster card is present.
Should I start all over again? If I do, should I install win2k with the sound card installed?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
PS - system was working fine before I attempted the re-install but was sluggish which I felt was due to all the hardware changes (mobo, graphics card, sound card, hd) done at various times, not to mention the software installs and uninstalls.

This is the advice I rcvd from Creative technical support. It worked. Sound card is properly and cleanly installed. I also disabled the onchip sound in BIOS advanced chipset in addition to disabling the onboard audio in BIOS Integrated peripherals.
Again, this is for an audigy sound card and Win2k:
please try out the following cleansweep and
re-installation procedure instead, to see if it works:-
1. Enable the WINDOWS 2000 STARTUP MENU by rebooting your computer and
tapping F8 once every second OR holding the SHIFT key while rebooting.
2. When the menu is displayed, select SAFE MODE and press ENTER.
3. Once in SAFE MODE, insert the sound card's installation CD and exit
out of the installer
4. Click START / RUN.
5. Type "X:\AUDIO\DRIVERS\CTZAPXX.EXE into the OPEN field (replace X
with the applicable CD-ROM drive letter).
6. Click OK.
7. When the CREATIVE DRIVER UPDATE UTILITY opens, select DRIVER
UNINSTALLATION under UPDATE OPTION.
8. If two out of the three options are disabled or grayed out under
DRIVER TYPE, click OK. Otherwise, select WDM. You will then be
prompted to reboot, but please do not do so.
9. Click START / SETTINGS / CONTROL PANEL / ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS.
10. Remove all Creative SB Audigy 2 programs.
11. Close all windows, and reboot the computer normally (ENTER NORMAL
MODE).
12. The Audigy 2 will be detected by Windows. Cancel the ADD NEW
HARDWARE WIZARD when able.
In order to install your soundcard properly, I recommend you to ensure
the following for the audio installation and test:
- The card is the only card installed other than the Graphics card.
- The card is at least one empty slot away from the Graphics card.
- Place the soundcard away from all the others.
- That the card is seated properly in the PCI slot.
- Move the PC's internal wires away from the soundcard.
- That the on-board sound on your motherboard is disabled through the
BIOS.
- That the on-board gameport is disabled through the BIOS.
- That your motherboard BIOS is up-to-date.
- That the operating system is up-to-date with the latest service packs
and patches.
- That there are no background applications open when you attempt the
solution.
- That the anti-virus program is disabled.
- That if you are over-clocking your system, return all options to their
recommended settings.
- That you access the PC with administrator rights.
13. Perform an installation via the CTRUN program on the CD
(X:\CTRUN\CTRUN.EXE where X is the drive letter of your CD drive that
has the installation CD).
[note:RE: Item 13 - there was a ctrunx directory with ctrunx.exe and start.exe in it. The ctrunx.exe wouldn't execute, but the start.exe did the job]
14. Reboot if prompted.
15. Please obtain the latest updates for your Audigy 2 card from our
website:- http://us.creative.com//support/downloads/
Under the option 'Select your product': Select 'Sound Blaster'->'24-bit
Advanced HD'->'Sound Blaster Audigy 2'.
Under the option 'Select your operating system': Select 'Windows 2000'.
Click on the 'Go' button just below the Windows selection.
In the next page, click on 'EAX 4.0 ADVANCED HD Driver Update for
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2/Audigy 2 ZS' and the download should
begin.
16. Once you are prompted to OPEN FROM CURRENT LOCATION or SAVE TO
DISK, select SAVE TO DISK and download the update to MY DESKTOP.
17. When the file has completed the phase of being transferred to your
computer, locate the file on your desktop and double click the file.

Is my Audigy card broken?

Hi everyone,
I have had an Audigy sound card since January 200 and it's served me well and trouble free ever since...until today.
I was playing a game this morning (Icewind Dale) when my computer froze, a very rare occurence. When I restarted I discovered that some sound coming from my computer was simply noise, static white noise, with occasional "bleeps and bloops". I thought at first maybe the Audigy software/ driver had been corrupted so I reinstalled the drivers from the CD. Same problem. So I went more drastic and reinstalled my entire PC operating system, twice. Still the same!
However, audio CDs play perfectly normally on my computer. If I "rip" a song from a CD onto my PC and play it though, it's just white noise/ bleeps again.
So I'm confused. Is the problem with the soundcard? I'd be happy to keep it as is, but it's served me well for nearly 0 years and I wouldn't have? a problem with getting a newer Audigy card to replace it.
But- is there a chance that the problem lies outside the soundcard? There's no point in getting a new Audigy if there's maybe? a problem elsewhere. Is it possible the motherboard has developed a fault? I have absolutely no other problems with my PC except for the corrupted sound.
I have run Creative Diagnostics and all tests have passed.
If anyone can offer any help/ solutions I'd appreciate it

Hello everyone
I have something quite similar with mine, well, even more frightening than beakid's screenshots actually.
So I ran the Apple Hardware Test and I got the following error code:
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If it
falls into THIS range of serial numbers, you are
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supply issues.
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iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.3.9) AppleHardwareTest version 2.2.1
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I have some Audigy card Sound Blaster Audigy SB394 EAX ADVANCED HD maybe can i get some info about this card.. it is 5./6. some details about it. i found it in my closed :P
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i think it is an Creative Labs SoundBlaster Audigy with 394 PCI Sound Card
32-Bit Professional Quality Effects Engine
? Creative's Audigy? patented effects processor
? Support for real-time digital effects like reverb, chorus, normalizer, pitch shifter, or distortion across any audio source
? Capable of processing, mixing and positioning audio streams using up to 3 available hardware channels
? Full 32-bit digital mixer maintains all sound mixing in the digital domain, eliminating noise from the signal
High Definition Audio Quality
? Playback of 64 audio channels, each with its own independent sample rate
? 24-bit Analog-to-Digital and Digital-to-Analog conversion
? 6-bit recording with sampling rates of 8, .025, 6, 22.05, 24, 32, 44. and 48kHz
? Supports Sony/Philips Digital Interface (SPDIF) input and output of up to 24-bit/96kHz quality
? SPDIF output up to 24-bit resolution at selectable sampling rate of 44., 48 or 96kHz
? Low latency multi-track recording with ASIO? support
EAX?ADVANCED HD?, Advanced Audio and 3D Audio Technology
? Optimized user-selectable settings for headphones, two, four or six speakers and external A/V amplifiers
? Dolby? Digital audio decoding to 5. speaker channels in both analog and digital modes
? Upgradeable 3D audio architecture for future improvements
? Hardware acceleration of EAX ADVANCED HD for games
? Creative Multi Speaker Surround? (CMSS) technology places any mono or stereo source in a 360? audio space
? User-selectable EAX ADVANCED HD music presets, pre-configurable DSP modes simulating various acoustic environments
? Time-scaling
? Audio Clean-Up
SB394 Connectivity
? High speed connection to IEEE? 394-enabled devices with up to 400Mbps transfer rate
? Interconnection of up to 63 devices for peer-to-peer communication
? SB394 Certification Program thoroughly tests and certifies participating vendors' 394-enabled devices with Sound Blaster Audigy for optimal performance and ease of use
? Hot-plug support for ease of connecting or disconnecting external devices
Realistic Wave-Table Synthesis
? Creative's Audigy music synthesis engine
? 64-voice hardware polyphony with Creative's patented 8-point interpolation technology that reduces distortion to inaudible levels
? Uses SoundFont? technology for user-definable wave-table sample sets
? Unlimited sample size can be loaded into host memory for professional music reproduction (limited to available system memory size)
? Scalable PCI wave-table synthesis architecture with multi-timbre capability
? 48 MIDI channels with 28 GM & GS compatible instruments and 0 drum kits
MIDI Interface/Joystick Port
? Support for analog and digital or DirectInput? game devices
? Support for two simultaneous MIDI devices with Sound Blaster Audigy Dri've
On-Board Connectors
? Analog / Digital Out (Analog Center & Subwoofer / 6-channel SPDIF Output)
? Line in
? Microphone in
? Line level out (Front) / Headphone out
? Line level out (Rear)
? SB394 port
? Telephone Answering Device in
? Analog CD Audio in
? Digital CD Audio in
? Expansion header to an external 5-pin Joystick / MIDI port
? Internal SB394 header to Sound Blaster Audigy Dri've
? Expansion header to the Sound Blaster Audigy Dri've
Sound Blaster Audigy Audio Performance
? Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A-Weighted) = 00dB
? Crosstalk (Left/Right and vice versa) = -00dB
? Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise at kHz (A-Weighted) = 0.004 %
? Frequency Response at -3 dBr = <0 Hz to 22 kHz

An internal Audigy card for Laptops

Hello everybody in the room(s)!
I?d just was wondering whether an internal soundblaster Audigy card for laptop has been released or not yet (a really internal one, not that for the PMCIA port). I own an almost-new Dell laptop. Do anybody knows something in this respect?
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Luneros

Thanks, I took the plunge and got one of those cards. It installed fine - not sure which way to connect the two antennae - but have tried both ways (main and aux - black and white cables???)
The drivers have installed fine and the OS works with the provided utilities but I have not been able to get a wireless signal yet. There are several wireless networks where I live as I used to be able to see them on my old iBook, but I can see none with this machine. Sadly I sold the iBook so have nothing else to check if the base station(s) are live.
I did have SSID broadcast disable, so I set it in the clear but it is still nto showing up.
Apart from the wireless on/off button at the side, is there anything else I could have overlooked? - I noticed fn+F8 has a wireless icon on the key but it appears to have no effect?
Thanks for any suggestions.

Original Audigy card good for recording? Noise issu

Does the original audigy card carry the same Noise Ratio as newer cards do? I have just recieved one of these for use in my home recording project, and the noise level is VERY high. I'm pretty sure it is not an enviromental issue either. Please help me out.

Hi!
You can't plug your bass directly into your card because of impedance mismatching; your bass is at instrument level while the soundcard has line-level inputs. The bass expects to be plugged into a high impedance (Hi-Z) input. A card's line-ins are usually around 10K ohms - too low for instruments like guitars which typically require 500k and above. Direct plugging will only result in a thin sound and low level which easily distorts when you try to crank up the gain.
Check if your practice amp has a line out or DI out as previously suggested. Bear in mind that this is mono signal so you may have to route that to your mixer before going into the card. If you want to bypass your amp, you will need a DI box that will convert the unbalanced output of the bass to balanced; it will also match impedances going into the mixer's balanced (XLR/mic)inputs. Plus, the use of a balanced cable from DI to mixer will provide a degree of noise cancellation and you can use relatively long cables. Best of all, the DI will retain the tone of your bass.

New Creative Audigy cards

Has anyone tried the new Creative Audigy cards, the specs on the PlatinumXL look good for the price, I really like the idea of the breakout box.
Any input would be apreciated, the review I read did not say anything about W2K drivers or compatibility.
Thanx
The Seeker

alleycat:
quote:
So you can make noise I can't hear? And that you can't record to any media available on the market today? Okay ... so what is your point? If you get near one, make it.
If you are that deaf, then obviously I can't convince you. But plenty of us around here aren't. And you can record 24/96 on Tascam DA45HR's, Mackie HDR 24/96,
any PC equipped with the right soundcard, DVD recorders (yes, they are available and this may be the cheapest option), and there are probably a few more as well.
quote:
And since the Audigy does 96K 32bit internal processing, I'm still waiting for a point. The internal bandwidth for specialized effects processing is there.
I was talking about the computer's internal 32 bit processing. Many soundcards handle 32 bit bitstreams, which prevents the need for bit unpacking, but the 32 bit floating point processing wouldn't be handled in the card anyway. Most people use FX processing in software, because this is far more flexible than anything on a soundcard, especially for multitrack recording, unless it has oodles of DSP available, as some do (
not Creative Labs...).
quote:
And then you compress it down to 16bit for actual recording...
Well. it's downsampled, and the 32 bit float is outputted as 16 bit if you want to write to a CD, but not everybody wants to do that.
quote:
Making statements about the unit doesn't define a problem with it. Real problems are defined by things that limit real musicians or engineers, not by the lack of some extra bits which aren't usable or audible to humans.
Look, just because
you can't hear the difference doesn't mean that others can't. And as a bald statement of fact, for
recording, this card is NOT a 'significant' improvement over the Live!. It's a 16 bit 48K card with slightly more attention paid to the analog front end, which was certainly a problem with the original Live!. Oh, yes, 16 bit audio. It has been established for a long time that if you are going to output stuff at 16 bit 44.1K, then you should ideally digitise at a greater bit depth, especially if you intend to manipulate the data. This has even more significance when the A/D converter is on a soundcard in an electrically noisy environment, as you are unlikely to even reach your 16 bit resolution because of the noise. That's certainly the case with the Live! and the Audigy. The reviews claim that the Audigy will average about 90dB SNR when recording, which
at best means that you will only manage to make a 15 bit original. If you lose it at this stage, you'll never get it back. Even most 18 bit cards have trouble with this, and the difference is clearly audible in the end results.
As far as vinyl and recording goes, there seems to be a consensus view amongst the people that do a lot of it that there is significant detail at low levels on a lot of records, and on a higher bit rate and bit depth system, you will be able to capture this with suitable equipment. The argument is that it is then possible to make the best correctly dithered 16 bit recording possible, and still be able to audibly recover the low level signals. I'm not sure how far I personally agree with the dither argument, but if it is true, then you certainly need to be able to digitise at greater than 16 bit depth.
quote:
Oh my god, a point. Too bad it has no relevance. Show me a single sound card with -90db noise level and clean recordings of high db music in both highs and lows (much more relevant to actual production work) _WITH_ an external patch bay that I can purchase for less than $210 (what I paid for the Platinum EX)
Midiman Delta 44, if you shop around. It's a 24/96 card with a breakout box. Not only that, but you can upgrade the breakout box to an Omni I/O if you want. The spec beats the Audigy hands down for music apps, but not for games, I suspect. I'm sorry, I can't find one as bad as your SNR spec...
quote:
Yes -- there are a LOT of much better cards, with more inputs, cleaner audio and better noise control. Last I checked they start at $650 and go up from there. Since the only point you even attempted to make was 'value' ... what are you trying to say? Is a pro card a better value for the money than the Audigy? Certainly. Is a pro card within the no-pro's budget? Unlikely.
Well, if you don't mind compromising the breakout box slightly (breakout leads, expansion capabilities, etc.), in the same price bracket there's the Audiophile 2496, Terratec 24/96 card, Hoontech do a range of stuff with breakout and upgrade possibilities, Marian does the USB1 20 bit USB breakout box
much cheaper than the Audigy (rather less facilities, admittedly) and there are any number of cards without breakouts but with improved audio specs at the same price point. Many of the standalone cards are
significantly cheaper than the Audigy.
I'm quite happy to concede that the Audigy's S/PDIF may be capable of accepting a 24/96 bitstream, if you can provide it, but the rest of the spec is pretty average when you compare it to other 24/96 cards. Creative have also continued to provide support for the soundfont system, which many people find useful as a sampler. But at heart, it's still a games card. Creative knows where their biggest market is likely to be.
As far as insults are concerned, I said that you need to learn a bit more. I also read your other thread, where you said that you'd managed to get 'up to speed in a month', or whatever. I've seen
no evidence that this is the case. Things have changed out of all recognition in the last ten years as far as the practical realisation of recording is concerned. The basic principles have not altered, but just about everything else has.
And they say that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. You should consider this carefully.
Steve
Edited by - SteveG on 09/29/2001 7:40:27 PM

Audigy card identificat

I have just bought a SB Audigy but I cannot seem to get any driver to install. I get the "soported hardware not detected" type message. I think I need to identify the card.
Model: SB0090
Audigy SB394 EAX Advanced HD
Serial: MSB009023043078
Showing in hardware manager as: PCI\VEN_02&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_004002&REV_03\4&23C0BC& 0&50F0
Can anyone shed some light on this before it dri'ves me nuts? Unlike modern day manufacturers that use unified driver packages it seems that SB are card specific? Surely not?
Thanks for any help
Message Edited by bonesbones on 09-30-2006 07:5 AM

If you don?'t get drivers installed by running the ctzapxx.exe then,
maybe you need to use this method -
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=26737
or PAX drivers
http://www.driverheaven.net/forumdisplay.php?f=33
or kX drivers (no EAX support)
http://www.driverheaven.net/forumdisplay.php?f=67
jutapaMessage Edited by jutapa on 09-30-2006 05:36 PM

MIDI-In not working from my Casio PX-100 keyboard to Audigy card. HELP

Hi, I hope someone can help me with this. I've searched on google, in this and many other forums. It seems like alot of people have this sort of problem. I've tried various solutions suggested to other people but to no avail. I actually have 2 problems. . MIDI-in isn't working2. I get the message "timeout error" when I try to send MIDI files to the keyboard using the SMF converter. I'm running widows XP Pro service pack 2, MSI K8N Neo motherboard, creative Audigy soundcard with the latest drivers, ATI All in one wonder graphics card, M-Audio Soundcard MIDI cable which connects to the game/joystick port which you can view [url="http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/SoundCardMIDICableMale0ft-main.html">here.[/url]?MIDI out works. I tried re-installing the Audigy drivers after using software to remove all other audio drivers. AC97 is disabled in the BIOS. I used the keyboard in AudioHQ to test? MIDI-In - I have MIDI-IO selected in the MIDI options for the keyboard. As for?the SMF converted, I don't understand why my keyboard?can play MIDI files from my computer but the converter doesn't work. I've tried many other things. Maybe a USB cable will work?Thanks.

JOY
!!! Bought a USB/MIDI cable and it worked first time!

3 Audigy cards all have the same prob

I have 3 different computers. All of them are running Windows XP-Home adddition. They all have over GB of memory. They are all faster than 2.4 GHz processors. They all have ATI video cards with 256 MB or more of memory. They all have Audigy sound cards in them. They all installed without any problems. They have all worked for over a year or more. They all have developed the same problem and that is right after the warranty expired on each of them.When any of the computers boot up, during the boot up process two error boxes pop up. One is labled [ Creative Taskbar ], the other is labeled [CLTTray ]. They both state the same issue. "The sound card in the system is not properly installed. Reinstall the sound card and try again."? Reinstalling the sound card does not resolve the issue. Something in the registry has been altered and stays even if you reinstall the sound card. I have contacted Creative support several times and the only solution suggested was to send $2 by credit card for 30? minutes of disscussion. I have recently emailed Creative support and specifically requested the information of what to alter in the registry to resolve the issue. Creative ignored my request and suggested I try this discussion group, if I was not interested in paying for discussion. I have li'ved with this problem of these error boxes popping up on all of these computers for some time. It is an annoyance to have to click ok twice on each box to remove them from the desktop, only to have them appear the very next time the computer is booted up. Is anyone associated with this newsgroup familiar with this issue and what it takes to resolve it. I would appreciate any positi've information.

Hello Barnkeeper,
The simplest and easiest test to try first of all is this one...
Place the mouse on a blank sheet of A4 paper. Then try again. If it works now, then its the surface that you were using. A new mouse mat may be in order.
Regards
Ian.

Help with an Older Sound Blaster Audigy Card! Computer freezing on driver upda

Hey everyone,
I'm new to these forums and dont know if anyone still has experience with the older cards.
I've had a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum for about 6 years now and noticed some popping and sometimes the card began to emit a high pitched whining sound. Thus I decided to install the newest drivers (can't hurt can it's)
However, when I finished installing the drivers, my system refuses to start. Sometimes it's at the Windows login screen, sometimes right after.
I finally got something that may be the reason why my system is hanging. I have a message that pops up that says:
Box Name: ReadReg Application :Version 6.0..36
Message: Completing installation of your audio card
??? Please wait.
My computer is now frozen.
Here are my system specs if it helps
P4 2.66Ghz
ASUS P4S800D-X
PNY 6800GT
SB Audigy 2 Platinum
GB Corsair XMS3200C2PT (2x52MB)
Windows XP Pro
DVD+/-RW DL
DVD ROM
After I did a system restore, the sound driver was missing. Said Creative Audigy in the driver section with the yellow exclamation mark. I installed the new drivers again with the same problem.
Any help is welcome!? Thank you for your time and consideration.
Message Edited by Bane99 on 2-02-2008 07:00 PMMessage Edited by Bane99 on 2-02-2008 07:0 PM

I would:
Pull the sound card.
Start up.Enter the BIOS setup utility to make sure your MB recognizes the change.
Save the BIOS
Start again.
If Windows works.
Run a thorough virus scan (I hope you're running some reputable anti-virus software!!!)
Install Service Pack 3.
Re-install the sound card..
I'll bet Windows finds a driver for it that works. If not, run Windows update manual and see if there's a driver update for the card.
If none of the above helps, well... I confess, I reinstall Windows at the drop of a hat and that usually solves all problems. Do it on a Sunday so you can watch football while Windows churns.
Power Quest Dri've image has saved me from the Windows install horror on many occasions. I think Symantec has pulled the program but there must be something similar out there. Buy it. And in the future, remember, if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Good luck.

So I have two models of Audigy cards

One is an Audigy 2, the other is an Audigy SE. One I have had for many years, and the other came standard with a new machine I bought. I hear that the Audigy SE has no Digital Signal Processor, so it takes tad more CPU power off of my quad core Q6600. The Audigy 2 has a Game Port which is totally unusable under Vista (I figure that there is no jumper to totally disable it), but I can use it under XP. So which card should I use? I was planning to use the older Audigy 2, but apart from not being able to turn off the port on the card itself how can one turn on the IEEE394 connector (if it isn't already acti've by default, I haven't checked).Message Edited by Malkor on 04-8-2008 06:26 PM

If you right-click on the movie in iTunes, you can select Show in Finder. Then, you can drag it into a project in iMovie.
The quality of those movies will not be as good as the original since the versions in iTunes have been compressed. If you have the original projects or events in iMovie, it would be best to start from them.

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