Audigy2 + MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra prob

Hi I have an audigy2 from my old pc and installed it on my new system the motherboard is a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra after I installed it I began getting 'Machine_check_exception' blue screen of death, I used the creative auto update to update to the latest drivers, now the pc makes a hissing sound and reboots it's self.
Any help would be apprecieated.

hi
i am getting th same thing with my gigabyte nforce 4 board
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could this be an nforce 4 related issue?
i found through a process of elimination that the conflict apears to be with windows audio service
i turn it off and all the problems just go away but i still get no sound (not much help there i am afraid)
regards
andy

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Some questions about MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra

Hi to all!
First of all sorry for my bad english :P
I have some questions regarding this motherboard that i would like to buy.
I've red some times ago that nForce 4 chipset had a bug with the HyperTransport (or similar) so all the motherboards with this chipset were post-poned. Now the german MSI site has posted a press-release of the MSI Neo4 saying that mass-volumes distribution will be in mid december.
I would like to know if some Neo4 were distribuited before nVidia found the bug and (if so) if there's a method to identify the "good" from the "bugged" versions.
The second question is about the possible heatsink. I would like to install a Zalman CNPS-7700 AlCu (with 12x12 silent fan) but I dunno if the heatsink "dimensions" could create problems to some motherboard component.
Thanks!

Hi to all!
First of all sorry for my bad english :P
I have some questions regarding this motherboard that i would like to buy.
I've red some times ago that nForce 4 chipset had a bug with the HyperTransport (or similar) so all the motherboards with this chipset were post-poned. Now the german MSI site has posted a press-release of the MSI Neo4 saying that mass-volumes distribution will be in mid december.
I would like to know if some Neo4 were distribuited before nVidia found the bug and (if so) if there's a method to identify the "good" from the "bugged" versions.
The second question is about the possible heatsink. I would like to install a Zalman CNPS-7700 AlCu (with 12x12 silent fan) but I dunno if the heatsink "dimensions" could create problems to some motherboard component.
Thanks!

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra

Will I be able to fit a ThermalRight XP-120 to this board? It was too big for the NF3 boards.

Anyone found out anymore about MSI nforce4 mb's and XP-120 compatibility? I mean, the cards are just around the corner... BTW, does any MSI staff read these forums? Could they test for us?

K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra and 4 GB SDRAM DDR 400 Problem

I have the K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra and 4 1GB sticks of Corsair ValueSelect DDR 400 (PC 3200), model VS1GB400C3, filling all four slots. The BIOS recognizes about 2.88 GB of total memory. The MSI manual states:
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Due to the South Bridge resource deployment, the system density
will only be detected up to 3+GB (not full 4GB) when each
DIMM is installed with an 1GB memory module.
I'm not sure what this means. Does it mean that I'm "wasting" my SDRAM, that not all of it is used, or does it mean that all of it will be used and the BIOS just reports a smaller number?

Hi.
You seems not familiar with X86....
As you should know, Windows XP and most OS are 32 bits. That mean that every memory pointer is 32 bits, thus allowing to address 4Gb of memory.
BUT
In most OS, there is a difference between the kernel and the user. So, in most OS, the memory is divided in two 2Gb block (no matter how many Gb of Ram you really have!). The first one is for the OS, the 2nd for the user program.
So, If you have for example 3Gb of ram, in the best case, you have 1gb for system and 2Gb for user program.
To allow more Ram to fonction, PAE (Physical Address Extension) was made. Instead of 32, you got 36 bits for you pointers.
But as X86-32 CPUs can't handle more than 32 bits, a reserved area was made within 4Gb to allow Memory to be copied from the area the program want to read.
Exemple:
You got a server with 8Gb of ram. In windows, you only see 3.5+512Mb PAE.
If a program need to address memory in the 7-7.5 Range for example, the chipset copy the data from the 7-7.5 range to the 3.5-4 range in order to allow the CPU to get access: that's VERY slow.
So, in short: You can't have and don't need 4Gb of ram on 32bits OS.
(And there's even more place occupied by every card (AGP, PCI, PCI-e)....)
That's why XP64 is so interresting for programmers who needs lots of ram (Database....). When used with a chipset who know how to deal with lots of ram (I don't know if NForce4 can do it but I doubt it), you can load in memory a 4Gb Database.
But In all case, the bios should say 3.5Gb, not 2 and so on. You must have a problem with one of your stick. My guess is that they are all double sided and that you should slow down the memory to 333MHz.
(Or better: Send back 2x1Gb stick and get 2x512 SINGLE SIDED stick, unless you REALLY NEED 1.5Gb for your system !)

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 - can a raid be set up after a HD has info on it

Ok so my computers PS died the other day, no biggie but in the process of getting it back up I pulled the battery and reset my Bios.
My questions is, I used to have a Raid 1 set up now it's being shown as two hard drives, both with info on them. Can I just go back into the BIOS and set up the raid and go back to work?
Oh and at start up I still get the error 'no keyboard' but if I plug a ps2 in it's fine, then ones windows is up I unplug it and the usb key/mouse work fine. Any ideas on how to fix.

Quote from: BCB on 31-July-06, 21:23:39
Ok so my computers PS died the other day, no biggie but in the process of getting it back up I pulled the battery and reset my Bios.
My questions is, I used to have a Raid 1 set up now it's being shown as two hard drives, both with info on them. Can I just go back into the BIOS and set up the raid and go back to work?
yes, it should work.
Quote from: BCB on 31-July-06, 21:23:39
Oh and at start up I still get the error 'no keyboard' but if I plug a ps2 in it's fine, then ones windows is up I unplug it and the usb key/mouse work fine. Any ideas on how to fix.
go into bios and disable halt on errors (set it to none)

New build: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum + maxtor 300gb = problem?

Got these 2 products included in a order:
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra (Socket 939)
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 300GB
While checking up on the MB on the MSI site, I noticed a version of the bios (1.2) that says 'support for 300gb maxtor drives'
That's the same HD one I have coming with my order >.<
If the MB I get hasn't got that version of the bios already installed will I have trouble installing the drive?!
I downloaded the bios and it says in the readme not to install it from a floppy disk, so I guess you need a system up and running to make that update in the 1st place. No Idea how to go about this, if the need arises.

Quote from: Supershanks on 19-May-05, 21:45:00
Hi drjugears,
Welcome to the forum.
Many people are runnimg ok anyway as dope says.
But it's not an issue you can update the bios via floppy b4 connecting the maxtor.
See Flashing the BIOS for Users using NON FAT file system This is a guide written by msi. Strictly speaking if you folow the instructions you aren't flashing from a floppy the actual update is done on a virtual drive in memory.
if you need a floppy boot disc see Why no floppy for bios flash?
luck with build
Thanks very much for the welcome and info.
Unfortunately I'll have to wait a while to see...I installed everything....but need some adapter for the 6pin connecter on the ATI card. The power supply came with some 8 pin one. So I need a 4 to 6 pin adapter. Doubt If I'll find one local, so will probably have to wait until monday now to try it out.

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI sound needs -5V; newest Antec 550W has no -5V rail

I came within a whisker of ordering a non-returnable 3700 Venice, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI mobo and an upgraded Power Supply, Antec's newest 550W PS the TP2-550 EPS12V ($117). This has dual 2x24pin 12V 19A rails and is touted as the new V2.0 EPS12V/ATX12v compatible power supply for high performance SLI systems. By accident I came across a page at MSI for this mobo
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mai...ail.php?UID=641
At the end is this warning: MSI Reminds You...
• For this model, you must use a Power Supply which has a -5V pin supply. Also, the users manual which I downloaded on Pg 2-10 says the same thing
The above Antec PS specs do not show a -5V rail, nor does an Enermax 600W I looked at. The V2.0 specs for ATX12v which added 2x24pin 12V rails dropped -5V rail from the spec and it appears MSI is not conforming to the spec (See Antec response at end) None of the web sites selling these PS & mobos contain any warning. I vaguely recall from a forum a while back it may have something to do with the Soundblaster system in the mobo.
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22551 (click specifications)
Isn't this a major showstopper which is going to cause a lot of grief for those of us upgrading to SLI systems using this mobo and upgrading our PS to the newest & best power design? We won't know the PS won't work until we build the system.
Regards, Ron
Antec reply to me:
>>>>Thanks for the link. Since MSI's website does state the motherboard needs the -5v, the True550EPS12V will not work with this motherboard. The Standard (http://enhanceusa.com/documents/atx12v_v2.01.pdf) has removed the use for the -5v rail and it is no longer needed. MSI has not manufactured that motherboard to the Standard. Finding an ATX12V v2.0 power supply with the -5v might be hard to find. You should contact MSI for a compatibility list of power supplys that were tested to work with the K8N SLI Platinum.

Quote from: ccve3 on 21-May-05, 07:27:40
Wow!! syar2003 thanks for that post. I've spend an hour going through it & fasteddies links. Now I are a power expert. The dual rail argument is enough for me to go back to the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI with one of the single rail PS -5V units listed by fasteddie. The only question left now refers to computerpro3 recommendation on ultra power supplies for SLI
>>I quite simply wouldn't dream of putting anything else in my machine. Keep in mind, this section is for 2x 6800 models, not the 6600's which most any good psu will handle (like Antec Neopower, ocz 520, etc). . Pc Power and Cooling 510 Deluxe SLI edition (refer to list)
2. Zippy/Emacs 550-700w models
3. OCZ 600w (personally I would get the pcp&c for the price, but it's been proven here, so I'll be fair...).
These are really high end, expensive and only 3-4 choices. Since I'm getting one 6800GT and eventually another & possibly eventually a 4800 X2, I was hoping the OCZ 520W would do it but computerpro3 says Powermaster 520 isn't good enough for SLI. I found that there is an OCZ 600W ATX12 dual rail which surprisingly has a -5V rail needed for K8N Neo4 SLI Soundblaster. Will this meet computerpro3's preference for a high end PS for SLI systems even though I'm losing the 1 rail advantage. Maybe the 600 Watts just overwhelms the 1 rail/2 rail question.
Thanks again for the teriffic help
Regards, Ron
Wondering what you settled on. I got the Antec TP550 and it's flawless on the board. I even have the older 20pin model which works perfectly (including sound). If you really wanted what I would consider to be a top dog (pcpower and cooling), and find the -5v rail missing, all you have to do is place a phone order and request they add a -5v rail. It's a minimal cost and a total solution for having everything. Just my $0.02

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum or MSI 6600GT PCI-E ?

Dear Sirs,
I've just bought a MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E and
Motherboard MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum.
I Think that one of these is defective bacause WinXP
can't work with MSI original drivers, MSI old
drivers or Nvidia drivers. The system reboots.
I think that i've tried almost everything and this
card only works badly with VesaSave driver (Generic
Windows driver).
Could a defective video card works ?
Is it possible that the problem is the Motherboard ?
Any idea ?
Help me please,
Thank you very much,
ISW
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
A64 3500+ Winchester
Original Cooler
DDR PC4000 GEIL 1GB ULTRA DUAL
MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E
Maxtor 120GB
Seagate 120GB
XP Home SP2

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MSI 6600GT PCI-E or MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum ?

Dear Sirs,
I've just bought a MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E and
Motherboard MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum.
I Think that one of these is defective bacause WinXP can't work with MSI original drivers, MSI old drivers or Nvidia drivers. The system reboots.
I think that i've tried almost everything and this card only works badly with VesaSave driver (Generic Windows driver).
Could a defective video card works ?
Is it possible that the problem is the Motherboard ?
Any idea ?
Help me please,
Thank you very much,
ISW
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
A64 3500+ Winchester
Original Cooler
DDR PC4000 GEIL 1GB ULTRA DUAL
MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E
Maxtor 120GB
Seagate 120GB
XP Home SP2

About PSU I'm a old (41 years old) newbie, and I had to re-assemble my old computer to work but I check this before with MSI software and at motherboard bios voltage check and remember that it was ok it is a 600 watts. But I think that even if it is not, I could at minus install the driver and start Windows. I had no possibility to even start Windows.
If I install any MSI or Nvidia driver, when loading WindowsXP the screen turns black and at some time after the system reboots and prompts to start in secure mode. So I can't do anything, even starts Windows with this videoboard with right drivers. It only works with "VesaSafe" driver.
ISW

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HI! i'm the one wih the raid problem on a k8n neo2....
That's what a i Did.. i unpacked the exe and copy the files in a floppy... question is: if i do that, windows instaler askme for some files that aren't in the .exe, anway it reconices the raid and everithing goes fine until the first BOOT on windos... it shows a blue screen, butremoves it so fast that i cant read it or pause the system. But i know it's a raid problem because if i install it on a ide disk it works.
The nforce3 drivers are almost a year old, and i'm not sure if nforce4 is compatible...
I think the're compatible because if you enter in msi driver download page and select my model, they put the Nforce3 and nforce4 for win64 and my model is only nforce3. The thing is they havent released the nforce3 for WIN 64.... So.. It's normal that win asks me for some files that ain't in the .zip file (i extracted the files o course) and Which driver should i put the Nvidia one year old nforce3 or the new nforce4. (the nforce3 for 32 bits is rejected by windows) or... i have to wait the new nforce3?
thanks for helps

No Post/Black Screen - MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hello,
Here is my problem, I bought MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard and got
- 3500+ cpu
- CORSAIR XMS 1GB memory
- PCI-E Leadtek 7800GT video card
- Aspire 520Watt PSU
I have put all of it together fine( I have put many systems for friends before) hooked all the power cables, case to mobo stuff, fans. Every time I turn it on fans go on, and lights go on but there is nothing on the screen as if no signal from video card to monitor, plus no error beeps which means cpu and memory is fine right. I have tried to just have memory, video card and nothing else hooked up, same result. I have tried another PSU, same result. Now to add to this, I had same problem with ABIT motherboard and another video card(same) which eliminates bad motherboard and bad video card, since both I have replaced except this time I got MSI mobo and not ABIT. I got same problem with all of it, nothing comes up, no post while fans spin when I turn it on etc... What could be the problem? memory? case? Any ideas?
Please help me as I spent a lot of $ and time on this and had no signal to monitor so far. Thanks.

As I said at this point I am trying to boot without any drives plugged in just to get a post and boot up but no go. So basically all my drives are unplugged and I cannot get it to work, I have tried different psu and same problem. I have tried another video card( I RMA this one and got another) it goes and snaps into PCI E slot all good, I have checked that many times. The only thing I can think of is memory at this point but this is brand new XM Corsiar memory and why wouldnt the motherboard beep ( i hoked speaker) if there was any error like that? I just dont get what is going on.
I have no idea what bios version I have as I have been unable to check it, unless you want me to check the chip version on chipset?

Considering the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hello,
I'm currently deciding whether or not to get the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, and I just have a few questions.
1) How beginner friendly is it?
2) Does it take a lot of work to make it run or can you just plug everything up and the system will run fast and stable?
3) How stable is this board? I've heard that MSI boards were unstable, so how stable is this specific board?
4) I know this board is good at gaming, but how about office work like using Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc.?
5) I plan to keep this system for at least four years, will this motherboard give a lot of trouble? And how reliable is it?
5) Can ya'll share your experiences with MSI?
Thanks for any help.

Quote from: ExpertNovice on 30-June-05, 03:43:00
Is the MSI website http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum/SLI&class=mb where MSI names the board as "K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI" incorrect? It wouldn't be the first time a typographical error occurred.
If not then the OP may simply have not had enough room to enter a complete description.
No it is not incorrect, I am staring at the box mine came in. It says Platinum Edition-K8N Neo4/SLI, there is also a the non platinum version K8N Neo4/SLI and the non-SLI K8N Neo 4
anyway,
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Maybe I'll get the Platinum SLI edition instead so that I can upgrade later to SLI without having to buy a new card. If I do get the SLI I'll use a single card for now and put in the second card later when it's needed. Does the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI have any problems with running a single video card in non-SLI mode? And I've noticed that the SLI edition doesn't have a x1 PCIe or x4 PCIe slot, is sacraficing these two slots (as well as a regular PCI slot) worth it for SLI capabilities?
to answer that question, no it does not have problems running a single card in non SLI mode. It runs like a champ. I pernonally would not use the extra PCI slots, so to me SLI outweighs scarificing the extra PICe slots.

Playing DVD-Audios with an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

I have a system built around an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard. I'm using the motherboard's onboard sound, and I have it connected to a 5.1 speaker system. Using WinDVD 6 Platinum, I can play regular DVDs just fine, with awesome surround sound. However, when I try to play DVD-Audios, I only get stereo sound. Anyone have any suggestions?
A.J.

DVD video sound format AC3 5.1 and DVD-Audio sound format is not the same .
DVD-Audio disks has also a video AC3 5.1 track and stereo track , set yor sw player to use AC3 and see if it helps.
E.g a soundblaster Audigy ZE , or X-FI can render DVD-Audio , but not the onboard sound on Neo4.

Having problems with IEEE 1394 connection with MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hi...
I am encountering problems connecting devices (portable hd etc) via firewire to my PC. My PC does detect the devices.
I am using the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum board.
Check with Device Manager show that the VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller is working properly.
IEEE 1394 controller has been enabled in Bios.
Need help to rectify this problem.
Thanks for the assistance...
Regards

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PowerDVD Software with a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Motherboard

I have a system built around an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard. I'm using the motherboard's onboard sound, and I have it connected to a 5.1 speaker system. Has anyone with a similar setup been able to play DVD-Audio discs with surround sound? I tried WinDVD 6 Platinum, but while I could get awesome surround sound from a regular DVD, I only got stereo sound from a DVD-Audio.
Has anyone used PowerDVD Deluxe? According to what I've read, it supports DVD-Audio surround playback, but I'd like to verify that it works before shelling out $70.
A.J.

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And specifically using the onboard sound of a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Motherboard?
Nope, I'm sorry - it does not make much sense to do that when you have a real soundcard - I will look into the DVD-Audio thing for you, though. Just out of curiosity: why would you want to use a format specifically designed to provide the highest possible audio fidelity with on-board sound?

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