AUDIO - CAN'T SEPERATE STEREO PAIR?

I have a stereo track 48/16 and I can't seperate to edit tracks independantly. The STEREO PAIR option, what I usually use, is grey and can't be selected, all edits affect both tracks. The stereo pair shows up under one tab as stated in the manual. Thanks for your help!

You're missing the point. All of this is from within FCP only. The clip in its captured state has paired audio. You can't separate them from within FCP. You can only tell FCP to work with them unlinked. It's called "non-destructive editing" which means the choices you make in FCP do not alter the original media. (Except when you do a Media Manager operation.)
Unlinking the stereo pair is a timeline option only. The viewer shows you original media when you click from the browser. It shows you the timeline state when you load it from the timeline. If you load it into the viewer while it's linked, you will have it linked in the viewer. If you unlink it first, and THEN load it into the viewer, it will be unlinked, and you will get only one audio track loaded.
Maybe it would help if we knew what your end goal is. There's no reason to NEED the unlink feature in the viewer. It works perfectly fine in the timeline. Don't reinvent the wheel. Learn how to use the tools that exist.

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My video clip, brought over into Premiere CS6 from Final Cut Pro 5, has the usual left and right audio tracks, but in Premiere they are not linked into a stereo pair. Thus the volume level has to be adjusted separately in each track.
In Final Cut, I can quickly convert two independent audio tracks into a stero pair by selecting the tracks and then going to the menu Modify > Stereo Pair. I can't figure out how to do this in Premiere.
When two audio tracks are not linked, the volume level has to be adjusted separately in each track, which wastes time. But after two tracks are linked into a Stereo Pair in Final Cut, adjusting either track adjusts them both, together. That's what I want to do now in Premiere.
So, how do I make two separate audio tracks into a linked Stereo Pair in Premiere?
Tom

Hi Tom,
Tom77 wrote:
I need to do in my videos that I either can't do in Premiere or that require involved workarounds like this, things that I can do instantly
I used to think like you do. These aren't workarounds, per se. The issue is that Premiere Pro is a different program, so you have to approach some things slightly differently.
Actually, Premiere Pro's audio capability is more like a DAW than Final Cut was, and more powerful too, so if you know that workflow it makes more sense. A lot of FCP people don't have training in programs like ProTools or Audition, so it's more difficult for folks like yourself (and me, too) to catch on. Once you learn it, though, you begin to see its power.
Tom77 wrote:
things that I can do instantly with the flick of a keyboard command in Final Cut, such as link and unlink audio tracks.
In Premiere Pro CC, you can link and unlink audio and video tracks with a keyboard shortcut for "Linked Selection." You have to create it in your Keyboard Shortcuts dialog box, but it works just like the one in FCP. Make it Shift + L if you like.
Tom77 wrote:
Not to mention the fact that I can have as many projects open in Final Cut as I want, and copy and paste between them. Each open project becomes a tab on the timeline, and I can jump beween projects by just clicking on their tabs. I was shocked when I tried to open two projects in Premiere to find that it only allows one at a time to be open. That seems really primitive--
Again, you can achieve what you want (copying and using items from other projects), you just have to go about it differently. All you do is navigate to the other project files in the Media Browser and import items that you need in this fashion. So, no, you don't have more than one project open at a time, but you got what you wanted, stuff from another projects in your current project. That works for me, anyway.
Again, Premiere Pro is a different program. You can achieve the same goals, but sometimes have to go about it differently. Some things are faster, some slower. Some are easier to learn, some harder. Hopefully, you see my point.
I need video generators to make arrows, circles, squares, etc. and transitions such as edge wipes and clock wipes to animate them, all to point out and emphasize things that I'm demonstrating and explaining in my videos. Premiere has no such generators, nor are there any third-party plug-ins available to add them, that I've been able to find.
Do you know about the Titler? It has a lot of useful shapes. You can also create shapes in After Effects and Photoshop and import them. The shapes you make in those programs can look a lot better than the stock FCP effects.
There are lots of third party effects, some that have generators. Check out Boris Continuum, FX Factory, CoreMelt, Film Impact, and more.
There are pitifully few transitions in Premiere at all (the Mac version) compared to Final Cut.
I'm really not a transitions person, and I find the FCP transitions looking tired anyway. The only one I really need is a white flash and I can either create it, or use a third party flash effect. If you need cool, modern transitions, check out Film Impact or the other third party plug in foundries I mentioned. There is an Edge Wipe transition, called "Wipe." If you need feathering, check out the Wipe Effect, which you can keyframe to look like a transition.
More and more I would like to be moving completely into Premiere, but I keep running into these inadequacies in the program, these roadblocks, for my purposes at least.
The more you work with it, the less you'll be working with FCP. That's what most people are saying anyway. Sure, there are minor annoyances associated with learning a new app, but you also take the good along with it. I suggest you just dive right in. It may take longer at first, but you can get your speed up in time.
I have no doubt that sometime in the future Premiere will become everything that I want it to be, and at that time I can finally abandon Final Cut for good, as I wish I could do right now.
I also came from FCP, taught FCP for nearly a decade, wrote a book about FCP, help start the first FCPUG, worked at Apple on two versions of FC Studio, so I do know what you are going through. Just keep at it and keep posting here. I'll be glad to help you with any workarounds or confusion related to moving over from FCP.
Thanks,
Kevin

Stereo Pairs

I have a question in regards stereo pairs is there any way around that when creating a stereo pair from two audio clip that final cut will not take the audio level settings from the clip above. I am doing mainly weddings and we use two wireless mics one on the left and one on the right channel, So I set audio levels etc for each track but in the end I want to put on a parametric filter to limit noise etc instead of doing each track i thought i can make a stereo pair out of it but as soon I do that it will take the audio levels from the top track and changes the bottom track. checked the manual and it says it in there it would do that but is there a way around, I tried nesting the clip but not to sure if my computer is not fast enough 4GB ram and a MacBook pro i always need to render the clip and when I put an audio filter on it every change I do i need to re render. Any advise

Making a stereo pair out of two tracks just to add filters is the wrong reason to make a stereo pair. Since you want to keep the levels, and possibly the pan settings for each clip, add the filter you want only to the clips that need it. Add it to one, then copy that clip; select all other you want to add it to, right-click on one and select Paste Attributes, then check the Audio Filters button.
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(the above was exported from FCP7).
The reason we are looking for this is because we deliver our masters (as im sure many others do) with tracks 1&2 Full Mix, Tracks 3&4 M+E. The benifit by having the audio appear as two stereo pairs is that the client can disable a pair through quicktime, thus we can deliver a wrapped file (rather than a video and two stereo wav files.). Its also benificial for us as we can QC the file by simply checking the QT proporties to make sure there are two tracks, and soloing each.
Using the new October release of PP CC I HAVE been able to export a quicktime with 4 mono tracks however QT displays this as one multichanel audio stream.
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"unlabeled" and "DTMPE" are options for Channel Layout Setting.
Stereo Pairs is under Audio Track Layout, which is just above Channel Layout.

Unlinking stereo pair

I have a stereo pair where I want to adjust the audio on one channel - "Stereo Pair" is not available (disabled) via the "Modify" menu, which explains why pressing "Option + L" has no effect.
What prevents this menu choice from being available?

Hi -
Well, if that's the case . . . . here's another questionable question -
On the timeline, you see the pair of triangles at the start of the clip that point to each other - indicating the clip is actually a stereo pair?
Also, I assume you've done a complete restart on the computer and the FCP?
thanks
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Can't capture audio in stereo pair

I have FCE HD 3.0 and the audio capture default has always been stereo pair. Just now, since having to trash preferences, the default capture is now mono. Thanks to the forum, I know how to modify>link stereo in the timeline, but could anyone explain how I could reset preference to capture audio stereo?

You can't.

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Does this mean if I have 2 mic's connected to my camera, PPro can only capture 1 stereo pair or the other or a "mix" of both? What does that mean?
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Harm,
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But I want to start using HDV, which can only do 2 channels in 16 bit mode. HDV uses MPEG-1 Audio Layer 2, 16 bit, 48 kHz, transfer rate 384 kbps (2 channels).
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-Sam

Hi Richard and Kevin.
First of all thanks so much for the response and info. Just to clarify, you're saying I will need 8 tracks, 2 of which will be designated for the stereo pair, right? My concern is that I'm supposed to deliver only 7 tracks. They want the stereo pair as separate channels on one track. I'm wondering if I can create a one track stereo pair and put it on a stereo track, then export only the seven mono tracks (plus an empty track). Would the stereo still work?
Thanks for the link to the previous post. I had actually read it and though it was helpful in explaining how to set up the audio tracks I was still confused about the export.
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Hi,
Working with one video track and three audio tracks (recorded as Centre, Left and Right) for each clip.
Having problems when I do overlaps or fades manually. I need to treat each track separately as not possible to make them a stereo pair.
Should I duplicate the Centre track and make it a stereo pair and make another stereo pair with Left/Right.
What should be the easiest way/workaround to treat/link the audio tracks so that sound transitions like manual overlaps/fades can be done?
Thanx

Hi-
Do your manual fade on one track of the three. Select the track with the manual fade and type command+C to copy it. Select the other two tracks and type Option+V. A window will open that will let you choose to paste only your level settings, pan, or content or any combination of those.
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Hope this helps.
MtD

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You can get stereo track for rear channels via Adobe Audition.
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Why do voice-overs split up my audio stereo pairs?

I'm using FCP 5.1 in OS 10.5.8.
Sometimes after I do voice-overs, I discover that all the stereo pairs on the audio tracks are split apart, and often widely separated vertically. To get them back together on adjacent tracks, I have to un-pair them in the Modify menu, push them back together on the audio tracks, and then re-pair them.
This unwanted splitting-up of audio stereo-pairs is a nuisance. How can I make them stay together?
Tom

Thanks Meg! From now on, I'll do as you suggest and set the target audio track for voiceovers to be a blank one beneath all audio tracks that have anything on them. The project I'm working on has scads of stacked-up sound effects, so I have to aim voiceovers clear down to track A17, which is the first blank one I have! But that way they won't split up any stereopairs on the tracks above them.
I still don't see why the voiceover clips have to split up the stereo pairs to the right and left of them, when they're going onto a blank space on an audio track, but I guess that's just a peculiarity of the program. You've shown me that to prevent such trouble, a voiceover clip needs to appear on a completely blank track of its own, clear of all other audio clips. Then it can be moved up to wherever you want it to go on other tracks.
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Thanks again,
Tom

IMX with two stereo pairs audio setting?

Hello.
I am trying to build a Compressor preset to export from 1080i ProRes, two stereo pairs, to PAL IMX, same audio setup. I can do it within FCP7 and FCPX, but I'd like to be able to build the Compressor setting as well. So far I can only build the destination file with one stereo pair. Any help?
Thank you and best regards
Fabrizio D'Agnano
Rome, Italy

OK, I've found a workaround following a tip from Jeremy Garchow at Creative Cow. If the clip to be converted has the two stereo pairs, you can create your own IMX setting in Compressor choosing "audio pass through" in the audio settings in the inspector window.
Fabrizio D'Agnano
Rome, Italy

Is there a way to select multiple audio tracks and make all of them stereo pair at the same time?

I selected multiple tracks, pressed "option L" but was not able to make multiple clips stereo pair at the same time.

If I remember correctly it is not possible modify a group of selected clips on the timeline with the Stereo Pair command - unless all the selected clips have exactly the same properties - such as being linked to video clips, etc. So you have to manually go through and select the dual mono tracks you want to pair individually or in smaller groups to be able to apply the Stereo Pair command.
If you select a bunch (a couple) of clips, and go to the menu Modify, you will see if Stereo Pair is grayed out or not. If it is grayed out, then you can't apply it to those clips as a group, but you probably will be able to apply it if you make smaller selections of clips.
MtD

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When I film an interview I always capture an independent audio track seperate from the camera, then synch the two audio sources up in FCP, and then disable the camera audio. It almost always works fine, and gives me the security of knowing that I have a backup of the audio.
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James,
if I have a video track and say 4 audio tracks coming all together I can either have video and audio tracks linked together or if I click on that button (it turns off) get a single audio track selected and editible seperately!
That's how that button can affect tracks selection!
g

Multiple Stereo Pairs in Compressor

Hi,
I'm having a problem with exporting fcp projects and getting the correct audio on output.
The fcp project has multiple, normally 2 stereo pairs (4 tracks in total). When I send the project to compressor I have a preset setup to create a quicktime mov, using the mpeg imx 625/50 as the video codec, and getting the correct audio codec is where I am having a problem, if I select pass through as the audio setting. When I apply it to the project it changes to 3.1 (L,R,lfe,C) Linear PCM, 32 bit, 48k,(the PCM and 48k at least are correct the res is not) it appears to me when pass through is selected it selects what it thinks is the correct settings that it has. Of all the settings that are available everything can be changed apart from the channel configuration, there is no option available that gives me the correct result. 4.0 (L,R,C,Cs) comes closest (audio levels remain the same, stereo pairing is lost, becomes 4 discreet channels in fcp)
Has anyone encountered the same problem? Anyone have any ideas how I can get this correctly configured?
I need the output to be(taken from an existing file exported in fcp in quicktime)
Apple MPEG IMX 625/50 (50 Mb/s), 720 x 576, Millions
24-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo, 48.000 kHz
24-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo, 48.000 kHz
Thanks in advance

Ben, who has a pretty good batting average round here, probably meant to say "That's the H.264 limitation when using Compressor."
Multiple audio tracks in H.264 seems to only be possible using third party applications but I'm making this statement only after superficial research, never tried it myself and I have only limited experience with Episode, never even heard of the other products you mention.
Your experience with multiple track output in H.264 trumps that of the elitists and I appreciate you starting the thread, Steve; I learn something new here every day if I pay attention.
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