Audio Chapter Markers

I have bee trying for a long time to find a way to make either an audiobook or just a regular mp3 with several chapter markers within one single file.
I know I have seen it in podcasts, you can fast forward to the next chapter within the same podcast, and if podcasts can do it, audiobooks and regular mp3 should be able to.
I found there's a nice App that does it for Macs, called AudioBook Builder. But I am a windows user so that's useless. I also downloaded a Java based App called ID3V2 Chapter Tool that apparently saves the markers in mp3s but iTunes 7.02 fails to show them and/or fast forward between markers.
Does anyone know how to do this in Windows?
THANKS!

Hey everyone, in case you dont know what I am talking about, please check this link:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301880
and go to the enhanced podcast section of the article. This is what I want to be able to do with my podcasts/audiobooks, in windows xp mind you.

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I recently purchased several audiobooks from Barnes and Noble which are encoded as MP3s with chapter markers inserted into the metadata in a proprietary format. I am trying to convert them to appear properly in iTunes.
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Input #0, mp3, from 'A Game of Thrones-Part01.mp3':
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title : A Game of Thrones - Part 01
copyright : Books on Tape
album : A Game of Thrones
genre : Science Fiction & Fantasy
publisher : Books On Tape
TIT3 : null
track : 1
encoded_by : OverDrive, Inc.
OverDrive MediaMarkers: <Markers><Marker><Name>Prologue</Name><Time>00:00.000</Time></Marker><Marker><N ame> Prologue (03:18)</Name><Time>03:18.893</Time></Marker><Marker><Name> Prologue (08:09)</Name><Time>08:09.467</Time></Marker><Marker><Name> Prologue (13:41)</Name><Time>13:41.200</Time></Marker><Marker><Name> Prologue (18:11)</Name><Time>18:11.133</Time></Marker><Marker><Name> Prologue (22:41)</Name><Time>22:41.440</Time></Marker><Marker><Nam
artist : George R.R. Martin/Roy Dotrice
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Stream #0.0: Audio: mp3, 22050 Hz, stereo, s16, 64 kb/s
=============================================================
Obviously iTunes won't recognize this format. For comparison, here is an audiobook purchased from iTunes:
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Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from '01 Water for Elephants (Unabridged), Part 1.m4b':
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major_brand : M4B
minor_version : 0
compatible_brands: M4B mp42isom
creation_time : 2009-05-09 12:36:04
title : Water for Elephants (Unabridged), Part 1
artist : Sara Gruen
album : Water for Elephants (Unabridged)
genre : Fiction
track : 1
copyright : ℗ 2006 HighBridge Audio
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Chapter #0.0: start 0.000000, end 655.000000
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title : Water for Elephants (Unabridged)- Track 1
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title : Water for Elephants (Unabridged)- Track 2
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title : Water for Elephants (Unabridged)- Track 3
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title : Water for Elephants (Unabridged)- Track 13
Stream #0.0(eng): Audio: aac, 22050 Hz, stereo, s16, 62 kb/s
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creation_time : 2009-05-09 12:36:04
Stream #0.1(eng): Subtitle: text / 0x74786574
Metadata:
creation_time : 2009-05-09 12:36:04
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When I transcode my mp3 audiobook, manually changing the metadata, I end up with this:
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Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'A Game of Thrones-Part01.m4b':
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major_brand : M4A
minor_version : 512
compatible_brands: isomiso2
creation_time : 1970-01-01 00:00:00
title : A Game of Thrones - Part 01
artist : George R.R. Martin/Roy Dotrice
album : A Game of Thrones
encoder : Lavf52.107.0
genre : Science Fiction & Fantasy
copyright : Books on Tape
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Can anybody point me in the right direction? I seem to be at a bit of an impasse here.
Edit: I am using iTunes 10.1.2 if that makes any difference.
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New to this...I will try to give you the detail you need to answer without giving you a long story. I am actually asking this question because I have a video production company working on my wedding video..they are using iDVD to burn but I am not sure if they are using iMovie to compose or some other software. Anyways, this is actually the second time around with my video. They produced it 18 months ago and it looked beautiful! The only problem was that we realized 10 months later that there was an audio problem with the wedding ceremony. In the meantime, the person who originally worked on the project left with the software and the equipment. So, they had to start over and have been working on the redo since February and I think I am the iDVD "test rat". They are telling me now that it is not possible to add chapter markers to the project in iDVD. And this is part of the e-mail they sent me with a supposed explanation:
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