Audio Editing Similar To ProTools/Nuendo/SoundForge/CoolEdit?

I'm not expecting the iPad to run a full pro tools session but some of the functionality would be great. Are there any out there? After seeing the Korg ielectribe and other production apps, using the iPad for music editing definitely seems viable.

Have you tried searching the App Store?

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Hello everybody,
I'm a Sound Designer for video games, and also deal with cinematic sequences. I use Nuendo for audio editing / sound design, while the video editors work with Premiere. We share the same audio footage that is stored on our internal server, and we copy the footage manually (or over Perforce) on our local PCs. Basically to make sure we're always dealing with the same footage in a fixed and locked format during the entire production chain from capture to final render. This obviously makes an AAF with 'embedded' audio obsolete and in fact unwanted, as well as any other "work-in-progress" audio render from one platform to another.
Situation 1: Premiere -> Nuendo
In Premiere we have several Stereo audio tracks with stereo footage.
AAF is exported from Premiere
AAF is then imported into Nuendo
Result:
Stereo tracks are imported wrong, because split into mono, which naturally duplicates the amount of tracks.
Stereo footage is now duplicated too due to duplication of track amount.
Stereo footage is still stereo, because manually copied from server.
Expectation:
Stereo tracks should remain stereo without splitting or duplicating tracks.
Situation 2: Nuendo -> Premiere
In Nuendo there are several Stereo audio tracks with stereo footage.
AAF is exported from Nuendo
AAF is then imported into Premiere
Result:
Stereo tracks are imported as Mono tracks (this time without duplicating the track number)
Stereo footage is not accepted, due to mismatch with track format (Mono)
Expectation:
Stereo tracks should remain stereo which then accept stereo footage
It's really important for us that the audio footage doesn't change format during the production chain. So for instance splitting stereo into mono left / mono right is not a good option as we want the original footage to remain untouched from capture to final render. So we need stereo tracks to remain stereo and mono tracks to remain mono, just as the original edit.
Using OMF instead of AAF causes the same problem, and adds more problems with the naming of the footage. So AAF is currently the best yet buggy method we have.
In the past I have transferred AAF files from Protools into Nuendo, and it worked fine, which makes me tend to believe the solution has to be somewhere in Premiere.
Any hints, tips and useful experiences are very welcome. Thanks a lot!
Regards
Christian

This may be the kind of situation that can only be resolevd with a Feature Request.
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

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I'm doing all of my audio editing and mixing on ProTools. What is the best way to export my edited work from FCP on one computer to ProTools on another? Is there a way I can do it to have high-quality audio and low-quality video to save space? Is there a certain format or codec I need to render in?

Export an OMF file of the audio only for your high quality audio. The use of Automatic Duck allows you to keep all your audio level changes and rubberbanding. Without it, everything will come it at their original volume.
Then you will have to export video separately as Sorenson 3 or MPEG-4.
Shane

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I have asked about this before, thought I had the proper answer, but alas it would seem not.
After joining audio (in most cases for music transitions) into Connected Storyline, I am often then unable to apply a Transition of perform a Roll Edit because it seems there is a space in there somewhere. I have tried the suggested remedy of Zooming in, using Position Tool to trim both sides of the edit, then deleting the space in between. It was explained the problem invovles sub frames which aren't always visible. Sometimes this works. It seems like there should be a quicker solution (it's especially cumbersome if your edit is otherwise well timed, and you have to re-tweak it once you pull the edges back,) but if it worked consistently I could live with it.
However, far too frequently, the process is not working, and I am redoing it over and over and over again until somehow it manages to take. I can end up spending 5 to 10 minutes on a simple audio edit, and needless to say, this is just unacceptable.
Can anyone tell me a reliable way to deal with this, or suggest what I might be doing wrong or something different I can try, because this is making me crazy. There has got to be an easier way. Any help appreciated.

dont think ive ever been able to get cross dissolves on audio to work. I now use FCPX as I would Logic or ProTools and I overlap audio clips and put manual fades on them. Actually its worth the extra work coz the joins are usually better. and you have ore control.
adam

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Hi there,
I'm having difficulty getting my head around the way STP handles multiple-mono audio files.  I'm lucky enough in my job to have a choice of audio editing tools for what I'm working on.  For speech I use SADiE, for more complex projects involving automation I'll often use ProTools & for podcasting I find that STP is pretty good - especially for enhanced podcasts with pictures & web-links etc.
So now to my problem.  I've brought an OMF project, from ProTools, home to work on in STP. The import went smoothly, every thing in the right place & sounds ok.  However, all the stereo audio files are now split across 2 tracks; 1 track for the left leg another track for the right leg.   I can't now edit the stereo content in any easy form.  I've tried using the 'blade all' tool to cut across the 2 tracks, but I can't then delete & ripple the audio.  This leaves me with a gap that I have to manually close.  Needless to say, I'm finding this frustrating as it's making what should be a simple process un-neccessarily long-winded.
Both ProTools & SADiE allow me to group files like this so that they can be treated like a stereo file.  I've looked everywhere, but I can't see a function in STP that does the same.  Am I missing something obvious?  I can't be the only person who's had to deal with files like this can I?
The only workaround I've found is to use the export command to bounce the 2 tracks to a stereo file, however, this loses any existing edits so I can't unpick them if there are problems.
Any ideas anyone?  Can this be done or should I just stick to my other audio tools for this sort of thing?
Thanks

ProTools uses WAV, in fact it uses the Broadcast Wav standard. The problem is the way it handles files. It still splits stereo files into separate L & R files. It's just that it hides this from the user. When you drag a stereo file in from PT's region list (the equivalent of STP's bin) to the playlist, the two files appear as one as they should do. The downside is that OMF/AAF export still treats them as individual files.
My problem is that I was halfway through an edit when I tried to move it from one system to another. If the edit was complete & just needed mixing, then it would have been less of an issue.
But you're right, there's probably some tool on the net that will solve this issue
Cheers

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Think it is abit rubbish that Apple don't produce a stand alone audio editor. But I found Wave Editor which uses layers like photoshop and is just amazing for $79
I have moved over from using soundforge on Windows PC. I am wondering about getting Express and already have a licence for Ableton 6.
I am looking into Express but wondered how you rated it for audio editing Vs dedicated Editor ?
I could download a trial I guess, but I have so many on the go atm.

Thanks for the info. Do you know if there is a trial ? I know they did one for 7 but can't find it.
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FLATTEN FIXED IT!
When "SHARE" to Quicktime, you can use H.264 or Mpeg 4 but to FLATTEN the audio tracks, I used AAC and when uploaded to YT, it all was there!
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I watched the tutorial on audio editing in logic- pro8.
I tried using all tools mentioned in the tutorial none worked.
I do a lot of audio editing,the tools mentioned in the
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I am trying to add a music clip to a video with effects and voice, but I want the voice to duck the music, but the music to duck the sound effects (explosions/etc), is there a way to do this?
Here's is a simplified breakdown of what I mean:
0-15 seconds I want the music to be at max volume, and the video audio to be 50% volume
15-30 seconds I want the music to be at 50% volume, and the video (this is where the voice comes in) to be at max volume.
30 seconds til 2:05 I want the music to be at max volume, and the video to be at 50%
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The Ducking feature will suppress every other track by the percentage you specify. For this reason, you don't want to Duck two clips at the same time.
It would be more straightforward for you to just adjust the volume levels rather than use the ducking.
As of iMovie 11, you can select a range within your audio clip and apply a volume (rather than apply the volume to the whole clip). So I would do it that way.
See the video at this link called "All new audio editing".

How can you do audio editing with fcpx

I want to know why was the audio in FCPX have such a big limitation of its audio editing, I want to leave the original clip sound but adding a music background and during the clip playback I want to rise and lower the volume in some portion of the clip I use to do that with FCP studio, but with FCPX you could only drag one point up or down and not a portion of the clip. Is there a work around on this or do I have to send these people from apple some feeback, on audio editing.

andynick wrote:
… I find this rather klunky - the keyframes are never in the right place for me using the Range Tool.
funny - I find your method more than complicated: switching to the range tool is a single click operation, and then just dragging - done.
precision is accomplished a) by magnification, b) by setting in/out traditionally with I and O, c) shifting the 'rough selection' manually, or, at last d) first setting Markers and snap the Range Tool to it.
don't miss Marc Spencer's advice on this topic
5:15 shows the Range tool in action ......

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Hello,
I'm trying to capture a demonstration of audio editing
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different segments of a sound clip. When I try recording a
demonstration, I can record my voice from my microphone, but I
cannot capture the audio generated by the audio software. Anyone
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editing software?
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Thank you all again for being here!, I have some quick questions about working with audio in fcp 6.02, and Soundtrack. first of all I am wondering if its easier and quicker just to work in fcp with audio, or export to Sound Track Pro? I have a wedding I shot and I had my cam recording 2 different source of audio, one from a balcony, and the other on the floor with different sounds to them. What is the best method to get them to sound nearly the same? In Fcp apply a "Normalization Gain"? I am new to audio editing, and somewhat with FCS, in general. Also in the timeline how can I get all audio clips in sync with the same volume? I was amazed with Soundtrack Pro's ability to take out ambient back ground noise and inference any other trick to get rid on unwanted inferences? Your Idea and experience are invaluable!!!
Thank You All Again, Tim C.

The reason you may not have gotten replies to your "quick questions" is because there are no quick answers. It is certainly easiest to just do the audio in FCP rather than export to STP. If your needs are simple just stay with FCP. However, you mention specialized tasks that STP can do but FCP can't. I am grappling with these same issues. I am a Logic Pro user and it gets very confusing about what tool to use when.
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Good luck.
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