Audio files folder

Hi,
What do I need to do in order to have the audio files folder from a project always in an external hard drive, I've tried with an alias but it didn't work.
Thanks in advance.

Hi
Put the project folder(s) on the external drive.
That'll do it.
Cheers

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Hi guys,
The question is fairly simple:
How to delete unused audio files in a project?
I can't manage to find the answer in the manual,... all I could find is how to delete audio outside used regions!
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Thanks for your reply.
+Can you play them as Preview (select in Finder, hit spacebar)?+ No. The black iTunes icons play with no sound and the silver and blue iTunes icons do not even come up in Preview at all.
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+How was the thumb drive formatted? FAT32 or other DOS-format, or Mac OS Extended (HFS)?
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"Logic 7.1 - File Management"
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