Audio Instrument

Hi everyone, I have a problem and thought id ask here in the hope someone can give me an answer.
How do i get the audio coming from an audio instrument track onto an audio track? From what i gather its only possible in Logic pro, but is there no way around this with the environment or bouncing (not sure how), im probably just
showing my ignorance, but id be grateful for any help/clarification. Thanks

Hey Tom,
Welcome to the forum!
You Bounce the track or tracks (don't forget to rename it
on the save as: otherwise you end up with a bunch of Output 1-2 files),
and select the option: Add to Audio Window, then hit Bounce, open the Audio Window; Apple key +9 and drag the file to the track you want.
regards,
Jorge

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NEVER seent his before. Furthermore the mixer window lacks everything except the MIDI nstruments, which is a bug thats been driving my crazy on my rig for sometime now.
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Ok guys...iMac Intel, 1.8ghz duo...so we open logic
express 7.2.3, and hey guess what, no audio
instruments. So i go to CREATE MULTIPLE, and i get
"can not add anymore tracks"
Go to your Environment window (under "windows" menu)
Adn tehn go to the audio layer.Look at what audio objects you have there.Do you have audio tracks,audio instruments,busses,auxes and outputs,plus a master?
Here is where you can create new audio instruments,if there are none.
Manual,Chapter 5 "The Environment" page 201 to see how to create a new audio object.
Manual,Chapter 6 "Logic's Mixing Facilities" page 295,for a description of each type of audio object.
NEVER seent his before. Furthermore the mixer window
lacks everything except the MIDI nstruments, which is
a bug thats been driving my crazy on my rig for
sometime now.
Can anyone help me out here?
Thanks in advance
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Global
MIDI
Input
Track
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Manual,Chapter 6,"Logic's Mixing Facilities" page 307, "Display Modes"
So,there you are,one big spoon for a big job...most everyone gets offended if I say RTFM.
Cheers

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Yes. I'm 100% certain that I'm getting the signal from the guitar. The levels change as I strum both before and during recording.
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This is not a matter of me getting no sound out of the recording- there is simply no recording. (And during recording, the little dialog box doesn't pop up to tell me that audio is recording.)
It does seem simple enough, and yet it doesn't work. I can record multiple audio tracks, but for some reason once I throw a MIDI track into the mix I can't record audio simultaneously.
I have no reason to believe this is anything other than Logic as I can record both separately (without altering the configuration of how I have things plugged into my computer at all). I just can't seem to do them together.
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Hi!
This is my first post here.
I use mostly Logic Pro 7 as a sound module with my keyboard. I have a song file in Logic that I made some time ago, where I've linked every audio instrument to a corresponding audio channel (same midi channel). All channels are in record mode, and thus every audio instrument is assigned a midi channel - and I can play different audio instruments by changing the midi channel on my midi keyboard.
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I would extremely grateful if anyone could tell me how this is done.
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Thanks for reading.

Welcome!
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1. On an available audio instrument object, I click the input drop-down, select Multi Channel -> AU Instruments -> Native Instruments -> Kontakt 2.
2. When Kontakt 2 opens, I load, say, three different instruments.
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5. Back in Logic Pro, I create two new (stereo) audio objects and assign them to channels Aux 1 and Aux 2 (and name them accordingly).
6. In my Aux1 object, I select its input drop-down and choose Instrument1 -> Kontakt2 3 & 4.
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Okay, I found the solution to this, and it's odd enough that I figured that I'd post it just in case anyone else ran into it.
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It's not whether the Track is stereo, but which instrument you've selected for that Track.
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You are not changing an instrument from mono to stereo; you are choosing a different instrument (although it has the same name). You are switching instruments.
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You know how to switch the Audio Instrument Track from "iHorn (mono)" to "iBassoon", right?
Use the same technique (Command-click, click-&-hold, whichever way works for you) to change from "iHorn (mono)" to "iHorn (stereo)".
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