Audio level keyframes

Is there a way to smooth audio level keyframes, like there is for filter and motion keyframes?
thanks for your replies!

Is there a way to smooth audio level keyframes, like
there is for filter and motion keyframes?
If you're thinking of something built-in to FCP (that is accessible via a contextual menu), then, no, I'm afraid there's nothing.
I would guess the most common workaround is just to add more keyframes and create your own taper, so to speak. But I think you knew that already.

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Glitch with Audio Level Control

I've been having this issue for a long time now on several computers and with different versions of FCP, and it's really bothered me lately. At times when I am keyframing audio levels in the timeline, if I add a keyframe to an audio track it will randomly lower the level of the track by 1db. This doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen often with long audio clips. Usually my workaround is to make two cuts on the track around the area i want to change and then add in the audio keyframes. Sometimes this doesn't even work. Anyone else have this issue or know of a way to resolve it?
Like I said I've had this problem with almost all versions of 5. I can't remember if I had this issue with 4.
Thanks!

this only happens when you use the pen tool to add the keyframe ... whats happening, whether you mean to or not, is that the act of clicking, to add the keyframe, is also occasionally pushing that new keyframe down a bit, causing the drop in level.
the easiest workaround is is to use Cmd-Opt-K, to add an audio level keyframe at the playhead position .... or to resize the audio tracks so as the mouse movement has less or no impact on the level.

How do you know the audio level of a keyframes

I'm varying the audio levels of clips on the timeline by creating keyframes using the pen tool. I create four points:
1) -inf = beginning of fade-in
2) -5dB = end of fade-in
3) -5db = beginning of fade-out
4) -inf = end of fade-out
But when I'm going back to adjust points, how do I know what level they're at already without having to drag them away from their home position and then back?
Scrolling over them with the mouse (and not clicking) just gives me a crosshair and no info.
I want to make sure that points 2&3 are at the same level, so I can just move the envelope region between them up and down to change the volume. Any quick way to do this to speed up my process?

T-Bob wrote:
I want to make sure that points 2&3 are at the same level, so I can just move the envelope region between them up and down to change the volume. Any quick way to do this to speed up my process?
Specifically to address this point: if you mouse over the audio levels' rubber band segment BETWEEN your points 2) and 3) until the cursor changes to an up/down adjustment arrow ⬍, and move it up/down, it will adjust BOTH the levels at 2) and 3), maintaining the relative difference between them (or, if points 2) and 3) start at the same level, this adjustment will keep them equal as you drag them both up/down together in one action.)
As usual, much easier to DO it, rather than describe it!

Adjust audio levels between keyframes

Hello,
What is the shortcut to adjust audio levels between keyframes (in sequence)? I know the shortcut CTRL ] [ , but this shortcut adjust audio level for entire audio.
I also know I can drag up and down the levels between keyframes using mouse. But some months ago I saw a tip ( from Steve martin) showing
how to adjust audio levels between keyframes using a shortcut..and better,in RT. but I forgot what is the shortcut.
thx

there is no shortcut command for this in FCP, you need to use the mouse to drag the audio level up or down
perhaps its another application your thinking of?

Why don't Hold keyframes work on Audio Level?

Hi -
In the past (AE6.5) I recall using Hold frames to keep the Audio Level really low until the exact frame I wanted to bring it up to 0db. Now in CS4 the Hold keyframes don't work that way. I wind up using lots of extra keyframes and sliced up layers. It's pretty messy.
For example I have a narration where I have to replace one word in the center of a sentence.
Is there a setting somewhere or, is there a new way to adjust audio levels quickly besides using key frames that someone could tell me about??
Why don't Hold keyframes work on Audio levels anymore??
Thanks,
JL
AE CS4, Intel Mac, OS10.5.8

"adjusting your Quicktime settings to use less hardware acceleration and a different audio buffer duration"
In AE Preferences I have "Audio Hardware" but no mention of QT. It's currently set on "Built-in Output".
Under "Output" I have an Audio Block Duration set at 01:00.
In QT preferences there is nothing about hardware acceleration or buffer duration.
Are any of these related to what you suggest?
JL

Setting audio level points?

I am trying to change the level of an audio in a sequence. I double clicked the audio clip to open the waveform in the Viewer. I know there is a way to select various spots on the audio waveform and mark them. Then you can drag the audio level line to a new setting to adjust that part of the waveform. But I don't know how to create the spots on the waveform. I can't find the answer in the Help manual.
Thanks for any info.

You need to select the Pen Tool which is to the right of the timeline.
You can also do it by pressing p
Then click the pink "level" line of the audio and a keyframe will be created. Click further along and you can drag the sound up or down etc.
Ian.

Audio levels on the timeline & Audio Mixer

I'm confused why when you change the audio levels on a clip using the Audio Mixer it changes the levels for everything on the track?
I'm from an FCP & Avid background where you can adjust each clip using the Audio Mixer, is there a way I can do this? I find using the yellow sliders in each clip is very unaccurate and having to open each audio clip in the viewer is such a time waster.
Thanks, Andy

Audio in Premiere Pro is different--but quite a lot, in many circumstances. I'd recommend going through the help file's audio section to get a better idea of what some of the main controls are: Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 & CS5.5 * Editing Audio
But to answer your question more directly: the Audio Mixer controls track volume, not clip volume. By default, the Audio Mixer isn't set to drop keyframes, so it will affect the level of a track as a whole; check out Recording audio mixes to get more background on setting up the Audio Mixer for automation, so that you can record level changes.
The rubberbands (the yellow lines you're referring to) can be more finitely controlled by holding down the Ctrl/Cmd key as you drag; the values will move in smaller increments, then.
You don't have to load a clip into the Source Monitor to adjust the levels, if you want to adjust by the numbers. Just single click a clip in the sequence, and if the Effects Controls panel is forward, you'll be able to adjust the volume with the standard effects sliders/dials. Note that keyframing is enabled by default for the Level property, so if all you want to do is adjust the total level of a clip, it might be faster to do it in the sequence.
Audio mixing in Premiere Pro is pretty capable and the feature set is pretty deep, but I'll grant you it's a little overwhelming coming from a different NLE. I don't know if any of the previous helps you, but post back with any specific questions and we'll try to figure out a way to approach this in a fashion that makes sense to you.

How do I adjust audio levels at various points on timeline??

How do I make volume level adjustments in a single clip on the FCP-X timeline? I have a music bed and need to adjust audio levels at various points in the song. In past Final Cut programs. This should be very easy but I can't find how to do it in Final Cut Pro-X. I don't want to adjust the entire clip.
Also, I recorded voice on channel 2 and shot gun on channel 1. I only want the voice (channel 2). How can I select a individual channel once I have edited the piece. I know I can re-import the video and designate which channel to bring in but I don't want to have to do that.
Thanks!!

Select a range and lower the level, or hold the Option key to click on the level line to add a keyframe.

Audio Levels on different tracks-How do I adjust them

I have a series of inteviews on my edirol which come across fine into ST. I've moved into production and have recorded some fixes and patches to complete the interview. These were done directly into ST using a mic. This is where the problem occurs, I can't seem to find where to adjust the audio levels for the new tracks I recorded. Having read through the ST doco, its brevity is to be admired. Help, any help appreciated.
I'm new to the sound field, currently studying journalism and audio is part of the brief.
regards, Wayne

Hi WayneAu,
1- In the audio tracks section, click the 'envelopes disclosure triangle'
2- In the 'volume envelope' portion of the track (it looks purple) double-click on the dark line. This adds a keyframe.
By clicking and dragging a keyframe you can adjust the volume for specific portions of the track, perform fade-ups or fade-downs, etc,.
I hope this helps.
In Solidarity,
Alain
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Audio Levels and Bins

I recently got a copy of FCE and am still getting used to it. I was wondering if you could change the audio levels in certain points. I've been using premiere for a number of years and on that you can click on the level line which inserts a point at which you can either peak and troughs.
My project is basically an interview with the a band and at certain intervals im inserting live footage. i have a track playing in the background during the interview and would like it to suddenly get louder in the places where theres footage of the subject in action. How do i go about this?
Also i have another Project that im working on which involves my recent trip to california. Basically when capturing my clips i would like each tape to be saved into seperate folders and bins. So in the program i can quickly find my clips which would be in seperate bins DAY1-DAY2-DAY3 etc.
How do i go about doing this also?
Any Help would be much appreciated
thanks

Turn on the clip overlays in the Timeline (Opt-W). Hold the option key and click on the pink audio level line to add a keyframe. Add another keyframe, grab it and pull it down. Not unlike Premiere.
Make a new bin (Cmd-B) and name it. Right-click on it and select Make Capture Bin. Anything you capture will go into that bin. For the next day's material make another bin and set that as the capture bin. You could also just capture the material and move it into appropriate bins.

Proper Audio Levels

I have a project that has 3 different songs playing in the background. All 3 play at different levels/volumes. How can I adjust them to all play at equal levels?

Sure there is - take your pick -
1. adjust in audio tab in viewer
-with level line over wave form
-numerically in level field
-using level slider
2. use ctrl-bracket keys to adjust selected clips in 3dB increments during playback
3. drag pink line with clip overlays on in timeline
4. option-apple-L to type in a numeric level adjustment on selected clip(s)
5. adjust levels in the audio mixer for that track/clip
In the audio mixer, you can click the "record audio keyframes" button at the top right - this will add keyframes to the audio level as you drag the faders up and down during playback. The audio mixer also allows smooth uninterrupted audio while making adjustments during playback - my favorite.
Oh, and you can also
6. copy a clip with correct levels and paste attributes onto other clips.
If any of these eight methods of adjusting audio levels don't suit you, perhpas you can submit a feature request.
Hope this helps -
Max Average

How to use pen tool to adjust audio levels

Hi,
I've been using the pen tool to adjust the audio levels in FCE. When I do, however, I get curved line segments (kind of like a parabola) between the audio keyframes. I'd like to get something easier to control... i.e. straight line segments. Is this possible? How would I accomplish this?
Thank you!

Add a couple more keyframes and adjust them so the line is straighter. You can drag the keyframes along the audio line & move them up & down to adjust the shape of the curve.
The default shape is curved in order to align with what the human ear considers a 'normal' change in audio levels to be. Human aural sensitivity to changes in audio levels (aka loudness) is not linear - it is more or less logarithmic in shape. That's why the curve.

How to fix inconsistent audio levels

I've got video footage from a presentation and everytime the speaker turns his head to look at a screen, the audio level drops significantly because the mic was placed on the wrong side. I have clips where half the audio is fine, but half is significantly lower. I have a full timeline of clips like this, and want to know what the quickest way to bring the low volume up without raising the parts with high volume. I do not want to have to go in and manually adjust the audio for just the lower volumes within a clip. I thought normalizing all peaks would do this, but it also raises the high volume along with the low volume parts. I just want to raise any peaks that are below, say, -4 db up to -4 db without increasing the pieces that are already at or above -4db.

There are several ways to adjust Volume, or Gain, in Audio in PrPro. This ARTICLE goes into a little detail on using each.
Personally, I like Richard's suggested method, but one must remember that the Audio Mixer adds Track Keyframes for the automation. If one were to later edit the Clips on that Audio Track, those Track Keyframes remain, where they were, and do NOT follow Clips. Still, as I do the final Volume adjustments AFTER my editing, having Track Keyframes is not an issue.
Good luck,
Hunt

Why don't Audio Levels work in AE CS5.5?

Hi -
I have a simple AE (Mac) project.
I have 2 audio layers of the same narration - slightly different reads. I was going to pick the best parts of each. But when I try to silence one completely for a few seconds (by using a Hold Keyframe and dropping the Audio Level down to -66db) the audio still plays through - as if I didn't lower the db level at all.
In fact, I don't seem to be able to affect the level using the Audio Level property at all!
What am I doing wrong? Is there something new in AE CS5.5? Is there a setting somewhere??
TIA some expert advice.
JL

Thanks Rick -
That is one keyboard shortcut I know well and those are the steps I've been taking.
If I use a Hold Keyframe and set the Audio Level at -100% at that keyframe there should be no sound at all until another keyframe changes that value to other than -100%. Between the two (Hold keyframe and "regular" keyframe) the numerical value remains unchanged. Is that correct?
Because that is not what is happening. Sure the numerical value shown in the Layers Switches Pane doesn't change until the Time indicator reaches the diamond shaped keyframe marker - but the audio level I hear changes.
Am I crazy or is this "broke"?
JL

CUBE Automatic Audio Level Adjustment

I am looking for some assistance on the following scenario.
SIP Provider ---- Cisco CUBE (3925) ---- CUCM 9.1 ------ 7945G.
The 7945G places outbound call to a remote device. The remote device says the audio level is low. Is there a way on the CUBE to ensure an automatic gain control?
We are looking to do this at the CUBE level as to normalize the audio level as we have a hundred people making 10,000 to 12,000 calls per day.
I have found the following command for the dial-peer audio outgoing level-adjustment, but this appears to just adjust the gain/loss at a specific level, we are looking for it to dynamically adjust the gain/loss.
Thanks
Danny

No, this is a pretty common technique, though I don't seem to see it too often at the end of a soundbite. It's used frequently in news magazine types of shows, most often when introducing a person or interview subject to the viewer for the first time. For example:
You're watching a story about competitive potato chip eating. You've just seen a few moments of location b-roll and action footage of potato chip eating competitions, whilst the reporter uses a voiceover to begin telling the story, probably about the rigors of training for such an event. As the reporter begins to talk about the world-ranking potato chip eater, the video cuts to this individual in an interview setting, and it's clear from the video that he's blathering away. However, there is no audio from the interview, just the reporter's VO setting up the soundbite. You might hear something like, "Joe Schmo, world-ranking potato chip eater, trains over sixty hours each week". At that point, the interview audio cuts in quickly, almost as if it's completing the thought in the VO, eg. "Training is hard work. It's almost like a job". And so on and so forth...
You could do the same to exit from a soundbite, but I personally think that means you've selected the wrong soundbite to use. The interviewee isn't completing the thought, hence the need to dip out of the audio quickly. That said, you can achieve this pretty easily with a very short audio dissolve or (my preference) by keyframing the volume rubberband for a particular clip. It's easier to ramp the audio for a slight ease in/ease out effect that can soften the cut. Something in the neighborhood of 3-4 frames should be all you need. If it's still too abrupt, you may have to lay in some room tone/ambient sound in order to bridge the cut. You can then put a slightly longer fade on this clip to more transparently transition out of the interview.

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