Audio MIDI missing synth profiles

I used to have a list of synths already in my computer for use in adding new devices in Audio Midi. I recently reformatted and reinstalled 10.3, and now they are gone. Is this normal? Do the profiles not come with the operating system? Thanks.

Not here. I strongly suspect that you, or someone else, deleted the program.

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Midi(software synths) into Audio?

I heard that in Logic,you lay down midi(software synth's) and then covert that into audio,is this true and if so how can it be done? Can this be done in Logic Express and Logic Pro?

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, but if you mean CAN you convert MIDI tracks into audio, yes, you can. You just solo the MIDI track, do a bounce, and add the resulting audio track back into the song.
If you mean do you HAVE to convert MIDI tracks to audio, no, you don't have to. When you bounce the whole mix to stereo, all MIDI tracks are also recorded to audio. That way you can continue to edit them until the final mix.

Audio MIDI Setup - drop-down menu of mfrs. and devices empty?

As the subject says, I'm trying to set up my small arsenal of MIDI gear, and the drop-down lists of manufacturer and device names in the Audio MIDI Setup->MIDI window are empty (there are supposed to be dozens of items to choose from). I've just recently performed a new installation of Snow Leopard, and everything is up to date. I even installed Garage Band, thinking that its installation might fix the missing MIDI device list, but no luck. Another odd thing is that my MOTU MTP AV is recognized by name within System Profiler (as an attached USB device), but I had to install drivers for it to appear in the MIDI Setup window.
Anyone experience this and/or have a solution? I own Pacifist, and if someone knows where the missing files are located within the SL installer disc I could try a custom installation. Help...

same problem here, no more device manufacturers and names, but a bigger problem to me is that I see no way of reorganizing the view in the MIDI window anymore, it puts all my devices next to each other, with 30 devices that makes it totally unusable.

I need to upgrade my 10.5.1 os on my G4/1.25 (I'm having some audio-midi setup problems), but it's a machine that is not connected to the internet. Do I have any options? Thanks!

Friends,
I'm having some audio-midi setup problems on my G4/1.25/10.5.1 machine. I'm thinking that a routine OS upgrade might help. However, this machine is not connected to the internet. Are there any alternate methods for upgrading system software? Thanks in advance!

OK, what you should do is download the updates on another machine and burn them to a disc. Start at this link http://support.apple.com/downloads/#leopard for downloads and find, among other things, the 10.5.8 combo updater that works on PPC machines, plus security, QuickTime and other updates. Going from 10.5.1 to 10.5.8, there will probably be a bunch of things that you should install. Being off the internet with the machine, you can't have Software Update sort it out, so something might get missed, unfortunately.
My suggestion is this: if it looks like you might need a download, get it onto that disc.

Kawai CN41 electric piano will not show up in Audio MIDI Setup.

Hello,
I have a Kawai CN41 Piano that I would like to connect to my Macbook via USB to control some midi functions in Logic Express (incredible software by the way...)
The Manual that came with the piano says that it should just work. But for maximum clarification, I'll retype what the manual says.
"The CN41 piano can be connected with a personal computer with a USB cable for excahanging MIDI data. You need a USB Driver installed in your computer.
[For Windows XP/ME users]
A standard USB driver is already installed in your computer. You don't need to install a new driver.
[For Windows 2000/98SE users]
You need to install the desigated driver in your computer. Visit the KAWAI website at http:/www.kawai.co.jp/english/Download1.html and download the program.
[For Macintosh users]
Macintosh OSX automatically recognizes our USB interface. No Special driver is needed. Older Macintosh OS are not supported by us. If you have an older Macintosh OS, please us an appropriate MIDI interface and MIDI cables when connecting the CN41 piano to a macintosh computer.
NOTE:
When both MIDI jacks and USB port are connected, USB has priority.
When connecting USB cable to the CN41 piano, first connect the USB cable and then turn the power of the CN41 piano on.
It may take some time to start communication when the CN41 piano is connected to the computer via USB. When USB communication is unstable with connection via hub, connect the USB cable directly to the USB port of the computer.
Turning the power of CN41 piano on/off or disconnecting the USB cable while the follwing actions may cause unstable communication.
while installing USB driver
while booting up the computer
while MIDI application is working
while communicating with the computer
while the computer is in energy saver mode
* If you have any problem with USB communication, consult the instruction manual of your computer and check your computer setup.
* The USB-MIDI conversion board TID10000934 used in the CN41 piano is approved to show the USB logo. The USB logo can be used only for the product which is approved by USB-IF (USB Implements Fourm Inc.) test.
* Windows is registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation.
* Macintosh is registered trademark of Apple Computer, Inc."
So when i follow the directions just like the manual says the only thing that happens is my mouse stops working for about 30 to 45 seconds. After it starts working, nothing whatsoever in the department of MIDI. It won't even show up in the Audio MIDI Setup application. Also, I'm not 100% positive about this, but I don't think it's showing up in the System Profiler as well.
I've tried pushing the rescan button in Audio MIDI Setup, nothing.
I've repeated everything with a different usb cable with no improvement.
And I even contacted Kawai Technical Support. The guy I talked to via email said that he wasn't a mac guy but he'd ask his friends who were if they had any problems, his friends told him that everything was working fine for them. Then he told me to go and buy a USB-MIDI interface and plug it into the traditional MIDI ports on the CN41 and see if that would work. (I really don't want to do that, one of the reasons I bought this piano is the midi-straight-to-computer-via-usb-cable-connection connection. Buying a little usb interface would defeat the point. Although, I'll probably buy one down the road eventually. I would just like it to work.)
This piano is really nice, It has keys that feel like the real thing and using it to write some tracks in Logic Express would be a delight if it would work. If I could, I would take this issue to the Apple store in Salt Lake City, but I'm thinking that I would also have to take the piano and its kinda big. I'm using a Macbook running OS X Leopard 10.5.4 with a 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor and 2 Gigs of ram. I also run a Line 6 Toneport UX2, I'm not sure if there could be any Hardware conflicts, but I'm not much of a computer guy so I figured I'd just let you know as much as I can.
Aside from this thing with the piano, OSX has worked beautifully! I will never buy a Windows running machine again. And the few times when I'm forced to use one, (Work and stuff) I get really cranky.
Thank you for your time,
Jon Worms
P.S. I'm more than willing to scan the manual and email it for you upon request, I tried to find a link to it somewhere with no luck. But you know, thats just my luck. :P

Hey Rob, Thanks for responding!
As far as I can see there is not. The piano does have 3 usb ports on it though. 2 A size ports to go to Kawai approved devices, such as a hard drive for recording directly to portable memory. These plugs are labeled USB to Device. Then it has one B size plug that is Labeled USB to Host. The manual says that this is the one to connect to the computer.
USB Controls do exist though. But manual states that they are for when you plug in a small hard drive/flash drive. The controls allow you to create new folders and move recordings around on a flash drive. And without a hard drive plugged into one of the A size ports I don't get anything but an error message.
Tomorrow I'm going to try and get it to work on a windows box. Maybe i'll have a little luck.
Thanks for your help.

IMac won't recognise USB MIDI keyboard in Audio MIDI Setup

I upgraded earlier in the week from a G4 eMac to a new Intel iMac. All appeared well until I tried to use my Evolution MK-361 USB midi keyboard from inside Logic. No midi events were coming through the system.
After some fiddling around I found the Audio MIDI Setup utility and the keyboard is not listed as a device in there. However, if I open System Profiler and select the USB information I can see that the keyboard is connected. According to the E-Magic web site this model of keyboard is class compliant and so shouldn't need a driver installed.
Originally I had the keyboard plugged into a USB hub. I've tried restarting the machine, restarting the machine with the cable plugged into different USB ports and different USB cables plugged into different USB ports. I've also downloaded all the latest OS / firmware / application updates and installed them.
I reconnected the keyboard to my old eMac and it shows up on there so I know it's not a fault in the keyboard itself.
The only other bits of gear connected to the machine are a Lacie external hard drive and my Saffire but these are firewire device so I wouldn't expect them to cause a problem (they certainly didn't on the eMac).
If anyone has any ideas I would seriously appreciate the help. As you can imagine I'm pretty gutted having forked out a grand for the machine.
Cheers
Jon
iMac (Intel) Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Hi Jon
So much for plug and play
Yeah, it's great isn't it?
I emailed M-Audio tech support about it and apparently it's a known problem in 10.4.8 and they're waiting for a fix from Apple. I guess I'll just have to keep my eyes peeled for OS updates and go rummaging under the stairs for a midi cable instead.
Ho hum.
Jon

I Mac(OS 10.6.5) Core Audio MIDI doesn't work

I just bought iMac. Problem is Core Audio/MIDI doesn't work at all.
I installed Logic Studio, Battery..but none of them working with MIDI interface.
When I worked with Macbook(OS 10.5) before, there was no problem at all.
I Used Mbox2 for audio interface and mic pre, and master keyboard with USB port as MIDI device.
Now I can't work at all with my music project because of audio/MIDI problem.
I tried to fix it opening Audio MIDI setup but I only get the message saying..
"Required Software extensions are missing"
and when I go to the the page after clicking OK, then it says that I need to get supported by software company for upgrade, which I have the latest version...
also I get the message "Core MIDI quits unexpectedly...".
These two message pop up every time I open Logic Studio too.
I hope solution for this matter.
I really need to focus on producing my music...

So, after long work around which failed this is how i made it work!
I think the problem is the latest update of the system (10.6.5) I am back now on 10.6.2 and all is fine : this is how i managed it based on the fact that the whole thing was working fine on my MBP.
1. download a copy of SuperDuper from the net
2.Open MBP and then firewire Target mode the iMac to the MBP
3. with the SuperDuper clone the Hard disk of the MBP to the iMac
This will erase all on your iMac and make its hard disc exactly the same as the MBP; it also makes it bootable.
4.open iMac alone
5. insert the original system dvd for the iMac and install the SnowLeopard system BUT DO NOT UPGRADE
6.restart as demanded and you should be on 10.6.2
with your desktop and hard disk running exactly as it was on your MBP
7 when opening Logic (or the other pro apps like FCStudio pro then you will be asked for your serial numbers which it duly accepts
8. all then should be running fine
Total time depends on size of your MBP hard disk (for me it took c. 3 hours including the reinstall 10.6.2) but all is now as it should be

"Audio MIDI Setup" not reliable

So I have a lot of midi instruments.. I want to start using them along with the computer.
I have 3 emagic unitor8 chained up, so 24 inputs, 24 outputs.
I defined every single device, added device icons, made all the connections, etc..
Saved the configuration. Everything fine up until the next time, when I checked the application when the midi interfaces were off. I lost 2/3 of the connections made (devices remained) and the thing auto saved it!
Must be some bug :'(
Anyone else had this?
I'm not such an advanced Logic midi user, should I be doing this in the environment instead of in Audio Midi Setup?

poqasonic wrote:
So I have a lot of midi instruments.. I want to start using them along with the computer.
I have 3 emagic unitor8 chained up, so 24 inputs, 24 outputs.
I defined every single device, added device icons, made all the connections, etc..
Saved the configuration. Everything fine up until the next time, when I checked the application when the midi interfaces were off. I lost 2/3 of the connections made (devices remained) and the thing auto saved it!
Must be some bug :'(
Anyone else had this?
I'm not such an advanced Logic midi user, should I be doing this in the environment instead of in Audio Midi Setup?
I never use Audio MIDI Setup to configure my external synths, as long as my MIDI interfaces show up there I just go ahead and use the Environment.
However... and it's a big one....
Similar to Audio MIDI Setup, if you boot Logic with not all of your interfaces powered up, the port order can change... at least that's the way it used to be, currently I'm using an interface that's USB bus powered so I haven't seen the "port order shuffle" for a couple of years.
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Problem with Audio MIDI Setup using multiple accounts

I'm having a problem with Audio MIDI Setup recognizing all of the MIDI devices on a G4 Tower with a non-administrator account. The main administrator account has no problem seeing anything, but the non-admin account won't see anything. Does it all have to be added in manually, or is there a preferences file to copy over that will take care of this. Failing that, is it a problem with file permissions? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Don't know whether this of any help, but there's an identifiable issue with AMS and Digital Performer 5 where DP5 simply won't load with AMS setups configured with previous versions of DP. Which is probably irrelevant to your problem, but ...
What I and other DP users have found we have to do is start with a completely new, blank AMS setup, and reconfigure our devices from scratch, and although this was kind of hit and miss and on the fly (don't really understand what the the issue was, exactly), I think the bottom line was if we used the new AMS setup with DP5 before anything else that might cause its data tables to change, we were ok.
So if you can do it, it might be worth setting AMS to a new blank template, then connecting your interfaces, see how far you get. And always make sure you've got the latest drivers of course, though I'm sure you've done that.
Never used Mbox or 410, but I've an Ozonic which I think uses the same M-Audio firewire drivers as the 410, and don't have any problem with that, FWIW.
G5 Dual 2.7, MacMini, iMac 700; P4/XP Desk & Lap. Mac OS X (10.4.8) mLan:01x/i88x; DP 5.1, Cubase SX3, NI Komplete, Melodyne.

Getting Audio/MIDI to recognize my Digidesign 002 rack

I just upgraded from a G4 with Tiger to an iMac with Leopard. As I wait for Pro Tools LE to upgrade for Leopard compatibility, I thought I'd try to learn Garageband. Although I copied my old hard drive over to my new one and attached my Digi 002 rack to my firewire port, I can't seem to get the iMac to recognize it in the Audio/MIDI setup dropdowns (which only show built-in mic, etc.). Do I need to install some software or is there another step I'm missing? I'd appreciate any help--thanks in advance!

phusiak wrote:
(there is a an installation of Pro Tools LE already on it with the Asio driver provided by digidesign).
There have always been issues with Digidesign hardware that was really only intended to work with PT. I'm amazed that it works at all with Audition, quite frankly!
There is a version 7 driver update, and that might help, I suppose. The other thing to note is that both the PT ASIO and wave drivers are both very much single-client, and preview playing has always been a slightly separate issue as far as Audition is concerned, and that may well be why the only thing left in the OS that can play anything is the wave mapper (which has always been absolute garbage...). And make sure that the system sounds are turned completely off - that alone would stop the preview working, I suspect.
The other thing you could try doing is to install ASIO4ALL (free) on the machine as a replacement for the WIndows Audio Driver, and try using that instead - it's rather more forgiving, and is capable of integrating hardware rather well, one way or another. Also it gives you better diagnostics and a couple more options to try.
Other than that lot, there isn't a lot you can do, though.

T61 & Bluetooth missing AVRCP Profile

I'm running Windows 7 on a T61 (type 6459) & ThinkPad Bluetooth with Enhanced Data Rate. Driver version 6.2.0.9000.
Problem is the driver seems to be missing AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control Profile). Basically I cannot control playback functionality of bluetooth devices from my computer. If I take the same devices and put them on older ThinkPad R50 also running Windows 7, the profile is there.
I can only infer a few things:
1) This is a 64-bit edition of Windows 7, perhaps the 64-bit bluetooth driver/stack is missing features the 32-bit version has
2) This is a different ThinkPad Bluetooth chip than what is in the R50, perhaps the driver features are not bound correctly to the newer hardware
3) Another Dell computer with a Rocketfish Bluetooth 2.1+EDR USB adapter (also a broadcom Chip, like the thinkpad) has AVCRP in the 64-bit Windows 7 driver.
Any thoughts?
Solved!
Go to Solution.

I fixed the problem by installing the Bluetooth driver from the T400 series, v6.2.0.9600.
What doesn't make any sense to me is why isn't this driver released for the R/T series? According to the release notes, v6.2.0.9600 is the first version that supports Windows 7:
Version 6.2.0.9600
(New) Added support for Windows 7 32-bit, 64-bit.
Version 6.2.0.7900
[Important] Ended support for the following models.
ThinkPad R60, R60e, R61, R61e, R61i
ThinkPad T60, T60p, T61, T61p
ThinkPad X60, X60s, X60 Tablet, X61, X61s, X61 Tablet
ThinkPad Z60m, Z60t, Z61e, Z61m, Z61p, Z61t
ThinkPad Reserve Edition
Note:
For those models, use the old version, 6.1.0.5100, of this package
Lenovo supports Windows 7 on most of those models. Why does Lenovo kill "enhanced" bluetooth support for those models under Windows 7? It makes no sense to fully support older ThinkPads with offical WIn7 drivers for every other component except Bluetooth (and the 4-in-1 Memory Card reader, which is another gripe). It's also not optimal for Lenovo to recommend Win7 users to download a driver package that wasn't created with Win7 in mind; especially when the appropriate drivers exist.

Hello! I have an iMac that I lose the audio output for certain profiles. The audio output will work on one profile, but when switching to another profile, I lose the audio output. I've reset the NVRAM/PRAM and that hasn't solved the problem. Help!

Hello!
I have an iMac (running iOS 10.6.8, not upgraded to Lion) that I'm having audio issues with. I have 5 profiles on this machine. The audio output will work fine out of one profile, then when switched to another, the profile will not have any audio output at all. Rebooting the machine will occasionally solve the problem. Administrator permissions are not the issue since this has also manifested itself on the administrator profile. I've also reset the NVRAM/PRAM and that hasn't helped. All my software is up to date and I recently upgraded the RAM to 2x2GB sticks. This problem was existing prior to the RAM upgrade.
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

Hi Tony,
Long shot, but...
Open Audio Midi Setup in Applications>Utilities, see the input & output options & KHz setting there, some things will change it for their own use, then not set it back.

Can't connect MIDI devices in Audio Midi Setup

In the help for Audio Midi Setup, step 7 says you can connect devices as follows:
"7. To specify the connection between MIDI devices, drag the output or input connectors above the device icon to the corresponding connector on the other device icon."
I can drag out a line from the device ports ("connectors"), but cannot find a way to make those lines "stick" to a second MIDI device or its ports -- i.e., I cannot connect devices like this at all.
Is this just me? Is this feature not yet implemented perhaps?
Thanks!

Ok, I finally solved this. For whatever reason, I could not set up connections between my auto-detected USB MIDI devices in Audio MIDI Setup -- maybe it is just not designed for this, or maybe I'm still not understanding what to do. i.e., I could not connect my E-MU 0404/USB to any port on my MOTU MIDI Express 128.
However, I was able to configure the individual MIDI interfaces (i.e. the E-MU or the MOTU, separately), using "Add Device" and then connecting between those interface devices and the newly added devices. This was the first time I had seen the "connectors" actually "take" and connect between entities within the Audio MIDI Setup utility, so that was a relief. Presumably doing this informs applications on the Mac how the MIDI system is set up -- I just thought it did more than that, i.e. allow direct routing between MIDI devices using just the utility itself.
I still don't know if I am meant to be able to connect a keyboard to a synth using just Audio MIDI Setup alone (what I had hoped), but I certainly can't seem to get that simple config to work and will have to resort to using some additional software like a sequencer. Not my preference, but c'est la vie.
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Built-In Audio disappears from Audio/MIDI

I'm trying to edit a project in Logic (7), get a warning message that my previously used audio device cannot be found, Logic continues to load and finishes at the arrange window as normal. When I go into Audio Prefs in Logic, there are NO sound cards listed to choose from.
Now as to why I'm posting here and not the Logic board: Back into Audio MIDI Setup window, Default Input is grayed out and says "None". Same with "Properties For:" drop-down. The space under Audio Input and Audio Output at the bottom of the window says "Input is not supported" and "Output is not supported".
So then into System Profiler, it DOES list the Audio (Built-In) with a Texas Instruments TAS3004.
I've tried a few reboots and, past that, I really don't even know where to begin. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!

Hi Cam
Did you try to reset [PRAM|http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379?viewlocale=en_US] and [PMU|http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1431?viewlocale=en_US]?
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Audio/midi interface, FW800 enclosure, nearfield monitors for MacBook Pro?

I'm running Logic 9 on my MacBook Pro, having switched over completely to a laptop based solution from my previous Mac Pro.
My previous audio/midi interface was a Digidesign FW400 MBox, but I want to switch to a USB audio/midi interface plus an external FW800 enclosure as my recording drive.
I am also looking to replace my aging Roland nearfield monitors with something smaller. I mostly run soft synths and plug-ins (I have an old UAD-2 PCI and am trying to crossgrade to the ExpressCard solution too).
And I'm running Snow Leopard.
S0 my questions are these:
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2) Any recommendations for very small but decent quality nearfield monitors? I like the Genelec's, but for whatever reason they only appear to have XLR ins. SPDIF or 1/4 analog ins would be cool -- anything compatible with 1) above.
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'Perfect' rather depends on what you want to do with it - microphone input? Level meter? Just a simple A-D converter? digital inputs?
I've used an earlier version of this device for some years with no problems (no MIDI though):
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=758&ParentId=104
Other interfaces by Roland: http://www.rolandus.com/products/productlist.php?ParentId=104 - Edirol (taken over by roland) used to make MIDI interfaces as well but Roland don't seem to.
This page lists interfaces by several manufacturers:
http://www.bulletsandbones.com/GB/FAQPages/Interfaces.html

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