Audio Q: changes didn't stay changed

I just got my mac, and followed instructions, I thought...
Took imovie clip into garage band,added audio.Ok pretty easy.Found the extra bar to raise and lower dots to assimilate "ducking" and did that to take out some profanity.Worked great..there.When I sent it back to imovie to "close the deal" and make dvd, the audio dropouts were gone. Everything else was fine.I thought apple changed things as you went and I didn't need to "save" anything.That right?My 1st piece is now on youtube(actress audition with music)
under "armeeuff1" and I'm a little embarassed.Can't show it to certain older people I wanted to.(i.e.investors for Feature)

In general, the flow through GarageBand is a one-way flow. It may add tracks that cannot be handled by iMovie.
So, two options.
1) Use GarageBand to save your movie in the format you prefer. Then drag this movie into iDVD project.
2) You can add audio, cut out profanity in iMovie 08 without getting GarageBand involved.

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I've searched the forum and I can't find any info about this.
If I change the "Bar Position plays at SMPTE" setting in Song Settings-Synchronization, I can make bar one start at the appropriate place in the movie.... but the audio track I exported to the arrange window is now out of sync. Other than dragging that long track around for every cue, is there an easy way to have the audio re-sync?
I tried re-exporting the audio, but it didn't work. It will slide the audio back to measure -8 but no further, so I have to trim the front-end of the region then slide the region back until it is eventually in sync with the movie.
Any info on some shortcuts to this process?
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And you really, really don't want to be working in the negative bar areas of Logic. This is a sure way to develop a corrupt song.
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If your movie starts with a timecode burn on the very first frame of the movie file (not first picture, but the very top of the file, even if the file starts with academy leader), set the movie start time and SMPTE start time to agree with that very first frame of the movie).
If your movie starts in the black with no timecode burn, adjust your movie start and SMPTE start to a point where Logic's timecode display is in agreement with the picture's timecode, but ensure that when you're at bar 1 1 1 1 that you're seeing the very very very very first frame in that movie file.
Next, extract the audio to the arrange window. SMPTE-lock the region (a safety precaution) and save this song. It will become your master audio reference.
Now, if you're working on a cue where your movie start time needs to be set to a point other than the very start of the film you're going to get the audio from this reference file each time. And to do so with absolute precision requires the following steps:
1. Determine the first frame of picture that you will be working to in your cue. Make absolutely sure that you've adjusted your movie start time in this file so that bar 1 1 1 1 starts on the leading frame of the picture. Not in the middle of the frame, not at the end, but the very start (this is done by adjusting the bits value until your 'target frame' changes to the previous frame. Then you move the bits value in the other direction until your target frame appears. Rock the bits value back and forth a bit to ensure, within no more than +/- 2 bits that you're setting movie start to = the leading edge of the frame).
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I’ve been using the vModas again for about a week now, and every time I listen to the same song, it plays differently, sometimes great, sometimes with extra bass, sometimes muddled and distorted. The same thing happens with Bose TriPort IEs, except they aren’t as clear as the vModas.
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I went out and bought a 2 GB iPod Nano and loaded some songs onto it.
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I've been mixing a feature film scene by scene (STP can't seem to handle a full feature mix at once due to memory problems) and generally pleased. However, I've noticed on two out of 10 scenes mixed so far, when I exported the aiff file as a master mix, audio levels on various clips (not all) drop considerably in the mixed file. Even clips in the same track lose audio level in places in the mix, seemingly randomly. It's very weird. Then, when I listen again in STP the levels have been mysteriously dropped as well. NOT the volume slider bar. It stays the same. No change in gain. All LOOKS as it was before exporting but the drops are there. It's as if the exporting process has done something to the STP timeline levels without visually changing anything. If I change the layout screens or play around with the submix locations, all returns to normal in STP. But after I tried exporting again, the same problem happens.
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'It's not a question of becoming. It's a question of uncovering what you really are, of letting everything that is not yourself fall away'. - Journey to Ladakh
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