Audio recording lag in Logic w/ Kontrol Rig

I recently tried to record some audio in Logic using my Native Instruments Kontrol Rig as an audio input. I have done this in the past without issue. I started a new channel and noticed that my when I was recording a guitar lick into the channel, it sounded completely in sync with the metronome. However, when I played it back, it was noticeably out of sync without midi clock/ metronome. I tried enabling and disabling plug in compensation to see if it would solve the problem, and it did not. I tried recording into new and old tracks, and it did not make a difference; the noticeable audio lag remained. The audio buffer is set to 64, which is hr same setting that it has been on when it recorded properly. I have not changed anything that I am aware of since the times when I have recorded without the audio lag issue. Does anyone have an idea of what might be causing it or how to fix it?

Well, I guess no one else is experiencing this issue,
So, I guess I will just keep y'all informed anyway! =)
I found the power supply to my old Creative E-MU 0404 USB Audio Interface, and I hooked it up and recorded a small track.
It was PERFECTLY in sync. I have also written in the Native Instruments forum about the issue that I am having, and no one has responded there, either, but it appears that the problem lies with Native Instruments USB drivers in the latest program updates.
I say this because my Creative Audio Interface and my Blue Snowball USB mic are working with minimal latency and audio lag, while the recordings from anything that I own that is both Native Instruments and USB related appears to have a serious audio lag issue, although the monitor sounds perfectly in sync while you are recording.
I wish Apple would press Native Instruments to solve this issue, but I guess they can't do everything. =P

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Couple questions. I do a lot of audio production and
work currently. I use a gateway with Cubase, and its
not bad, but I feel like I need something mroe high
end.
Yes, you do indeed need sth more high end.
I'm looking at the 17 inch Imac. Does anyone record
using this computer? How's it sound? Is there any way
to put in a new soundcard or something if i don't
like the current one?
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Secondly, is logic pro the most advanced and best
audio recording software for the mac? Are there
others as well?
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I know about Pro Tools, but it seems like there isn't
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guitar amp and having a mixer run into a firewire
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Lastly, how are the mixing features on Logic Pro vs.
Logic Express? I do a lot of post production mixing
as well, and use VST plugins. Speaking of that, will
it accomodate using a drum program like BFD through
VST or Midi like Cubase will?
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You're welcome.

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en español
tengo el mismo problema , tengo un saffire 06 de focusrite y en logic pro 9,1,7 en garageband incluso en quicktime al darle al boton de grabar en una pista de audio ya sea con microfono o instrumento me hace un ruido de distorcion mas fuerte que la señal de audio pero si no le doy a grabar este no hace el ruido y suena todo bien microfono o instrumento (solo cuando quiero darle a grabar en la pista)
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jmcpro72 wrote:
jmcpro72 wrote:
HI just purchased the os x mountain lion upgrade....and ever since my recording software like logic pro and even garageband audion recording is given me a problem .....ive been getting loud static noise during audio recording.....is there an update that will fix these issues...need to know
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