Audio slipping on XML export to FCP?

I've edited a project is Premiere CS5.5, and now I want to bring it into FCP for some tweaking. When I export the project using 'XML for FCP' the video comes through fine, but all the audio clips are 10 seconds later than they should be. I've tried a lot of variations on XML exporting and importing between the two programs and nothing works. The sequence in Premiere is 'DSLR' (the footage is from a Canon 5D). I've tried making a new timeline with different sequence settings and exporting, as well as trying a lot of different sequence import settings in FCP. (FCP is 7.0.3)
I cant just export the audio as one track, because I need it editable in FCP. Also, other projects have exported via XML just fine, so it seems to just be this one file with the problem. I even tried it on another machine and it had the same results. Is there a setting somewhere that I missed? Is there a standard sequence setting for importing Canon 5D footage from XML into FCP?
Is it just a bug? This is a professional job, and I'm running behind because of the week I spent trying everything I could think of to fix this problem. Anyone have any idea?

" Do you have any specific questions we might answer?"
Yes, as I stated in my first post-
1. The audio is slipping 10 seconds per clip on an XML export from Premiere to FCP. Has anyone has this problem and know how to solve it?
also
2. Is there a tutorial somewhere that details how to keyframe audio levels per audio clip on a time line (not just a whole track at once)
If anyone has any ideas on either, I'd really appreciate it.

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