Audio Timecode changes when match framing

I'm working in Premiere CC v7.2.2. While working with synced audio, I've noticed that when matching back from audio in my sequence, the timecode displayed in my source monitor is off by a matter of minutes. Each .wav file I'm using has about 10 tracks of audio. This is slowing our workflow considerably and could cause problems for us down the line. Has anyone else experienced this issue? Any help would be appreciated!

kmbarry23_,
Thank you for snapping photos to clarify this problem.
Richard, by default, the "audio time units" or samples is unchecked in the Program Monitor, and the affected timecode to the right of the Program Monitor's wrench/spanner refer to the last frame of media in the sequence, not the timecode of the clip nor audio file your playhead is parked on. The problem is that the dual system audio Overlay timecode as kmbarry23_ has revealed is always displayed in "audio time units" or samples. The only preference in Overlay settings is "source timecode," so there is nothing to change.
The camera timecode overlay displays correctly, so you have to match frame on your clip, make a marker, and then match frame on your audio, type in the camera timecode, make a marker, and line to two up in the sequence; not too shabby, but it defeats the efficiency and usefulness of overlays. Coupled with the Indeterminate Media Timebase preferences under "Media" always defaulting to 29.97 and the random glitch of drop frame defaulting in the source monitor, it could be confusing how Premiere was really reading the field recorder's timecode.
Perhaps not all editors are experiencing this phenomenon depending on whatever field recorder was used, but I am still experiencing this problem in CC 2014 (last two week's big update) with jam-synced Ambient timecode from a Sound Devices 744t into a Sony F55 as well as a Red Epic.
Yes, Pluraleyes is very popular, but not without its own set of glitches. I'd prefer to use Overlay settings in Premiere for syncing when the effort of jam-synced timecode was administered. I'll submit a bug report.

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First of all, thank you for replying my message!
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Oops clicked the wrong button, I meant to click a 'helpful answer' as it hard to have a correct answer to such a question.
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