Audio to MIDI Groove/Audio to Score - Undocumented Change

Anyone who uses these functions may have noticed a recent change in behaviour.
From page 464 of the manual...
"Creating an Audio to MIDI Groove Template"
"5 Click on any audio trigger point to prevent it from being transferred to the template.
Manually selected (unused) points will be dimmed."
Well... the background of the 'trigger point' area used to be white and totally independent from the region selection process, so although the trigger points themselves are only one pixel wide, it wasn't a problem if you missed one when clicking; you just kept clicking until you got it. The problem now is that the trigger point area is dark and is included as part of the region selection process, so if you miss a trigger point by even one pixel when clicking, the region will become deselected.
Something else not mentioned in the manual is that holding the Option/Alt key will prevent region deselection when clicking the trigger point background. Be careful not to drag while option-clicking though, as this will move the region boundaries.

There is the Audio to Score function located in the sample editor->Factory->Audio to score which will convert Audio files into Midi Data, but it mainly works reasonably well with monophonic melodic material and drums/percussive sounds. So don't expect harmonic material/chords to be converted as you might expect.

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Yes it does it all the time here ...and creates (crashed) (crashed) (crashed) versions of the project.
If you open the original project it opens OK ...when you try to open any of these (crashed) ones it crashes again..
It's the same with audio to score...when you press Use
They have removed the Groove template function from the Menu as well....although you can do it via Quantize in the inspector ...would be nice to be in the menu though....
A

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I am in the process of layering/replacing drums and will need to create midi from some of my drum tracks.
Here is the ways I found so far:
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- Pro: You can use transientmarkers as base for creating midi (which is the way I prefer)
- Con: All velocities gets the same (?)
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You're asking a bit much from automated processes there, I think - I mean, making a sampler instrument could well be a good idea, but you can't expect it to include how you're thinking about it with different velocities like you would with a set of drum samples versus a set of string samples, they're gonna be completely different - that's the bit you have to think about when you're building sampler instruments though, innit ?
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thanks
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Audio to Score is the way to do this from within Logic.
Do a search here, as this has been discussed a lot, but essentially, you'll open the Sample Edit window, on, say, the snare drum track, and open Audio to Score.
Adjust the settings so that the vertical black lines represent the snare hits.
Let Audio to Score to it's thing, and then open the MIDI region that it created, and using the Transformer, set all the varied MIDI notes to the same fixed pitch that your snare sample will play. You can also do the same with velocities.
I could go into more detail, but I and others have already done so numerous times on this forum, so the detailed info is available. Just do a search here.
Also, for 50 bucks, you can eliminate the need to use audio to score altogether, by getting the apTrigga plug-in.
http://www.apulsoft.ch/aptrigga/
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Hi all,
I'm with David E. on this one.....
$ta$h wrote: "Logic's Audio to MIDI is just there to make the list longer, and its only there to waste CPU ". Sorry mate but that just doesn't make any sense, actually it sounds a little paranoid....
I've used Audio to MIDI to get triggers for kick drums and snares, with fairly decent results. The feature has been there for absolutely ages and as far as I can see has never been refined; much like the Audio Energiser and the Groove Machine. Who'd want to use the Groove Machine when there are so many other easier ways to achieve the same thing (ie Rex loops, or the new GrooveShifter plugin)? Still I'd rather they left these things in than took them out. I think it's a cheap shot to say they're there to make the menus look bigger - and surely they don't use CPU while they're sitting there as unselected options.....?
PS - I'm not trying to pick a fight! Just feel I should stick up for the developers occasionally......
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Hi,
I first did what the manual was telling me but that made no difference as the sync would drop within 5 to 15 bars... very frustrating.
Since my original posting I have spoken with MOTU regarding this Audio/MIDI sync problem. There is evidently a simple reset that needs to be done (that is if like me you are using a MOTU 828 Mk2 interface), you have to toggle through both digital input and output settings in the Audio Control Panel. The problem then goes away.
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I am wondering if I can record audio and midi at the
same time in Logic 7 Express. I am running my guitar
thrugh a Roland GR 33, and a line out and using the
GR 33 to trigger sounds in the Logic's synth section
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Audio to MIDI Groove/Audio to Score - Undocumented Change

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