Authentication from Leopard Gear over Tiger Servers

I work for a company that is slowly moving toward migrating to Leopard severs and are using Tiger servers in the meantime
I have a new iMac running, which is on my companies domain and has been authenticated through Directory Services. Here is my issue. When I enter in a login/password regardless if they are users or admins, it takes 90 seconds to fully get in. Is this because, this Leopard build is trying to authenticate over Tiger Severs i.e. - a previous O/S and if so, is there any way to correct this from the machines end and speed up the entry? Thanks.

I don't have a clue, but you'll probably get a more cogent answer by posting to the appropriate server products forum.

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Can I install Snow Leopard directly over Tiger?

Running iMac 7,1 on Tiger (10.4.11). Have 1 GB RAM and a 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor. Can I install Snow Leopard
directly over Tiger?

Yes, you will be upgrading your system, take a look at this link, http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4949

From Leopard back to Tiger

Odd question to ask I know but have experienced some problems since upgrading to Leopard, one being that my Superdrive no longer burns DVD's!! This appears to be an ongoing thing judging by some threads I've seen and I can't really afford to be going out and buying an external DVD burner! How easy should it be to go back to Tiger?
Thanks for any help

Yes, you can do the same as you did previously, with one exception. When you were installing Leopard you were going forward with a newer OS X version.
However, your Mac will block you from installing backwards unless you click the "Options" button at the bottom of the Destination selection screen early in the install process. You will then need to choose the type of install you will be doing, or you will need to choose to erase everything on the hard drive - Leopard and all else. Otherwise, your Mac will block you from accidentally going backwards with OS X by mistakenly using an older install disc, the result of which would be to destroy a more current OS X system.
If you have files you want/need to save from the Leopard hard drive, you should burn them to disc, copy them onto another Mac or onto an external hard drive, or copy to some other backup. If none of those are possible and you have enough empty space on your internal hard drive to keep everything on it now AND also install Tiger, you can use your Tiger install disc to "archive and install" a new OS X Tiger along side your current OS X Leopard folder. Afterwards, you would be able to move your files from the archived Leopard folder to the new Tiger folder.
If you proceed without noticing the "Options" button, and see the "Customize" button at the bottom of the "Easy Install" screen, you have passed the screen where the "Options" button was, and you need to back up to the previous page to access it. Once you have made an "Options" selection, you will have removed the OS X block and you will be able to proceed with the install of Tiger.
If you choose to Archive and Install - once you have Tiger installed and setup the way you need and have moved all your files over to the fresh Tiger system, you can then throw into the trash the archived folder containing your unwanted Leopard system. Once you then empty your trash, Leopard will be gone, and you will have back the hard drive space.

Installing Leopard (regular) over Tiger (server)

Today we tried to install Leopard on a G5 tower which had previously been running the server version of Tiger. It gave us a message about being unable to just write over the system because the regular OS cannot replace server, so it would have to put all the system preferences and user accounts and all in a folder labeled "previous system" on the hard drive and then it would install the OS. We told it to do that, and it ran the install. At the very end (after about an hour and a half of installing), it gave us an error saying that it was unable to complete the installation because we were trying to put the regular version over Server and to try installing it again. We clicked the "Install" button, but it had put approximately 11 GB of who knows what on the computer, and now wants another 11 GB for the new install, but we don't have 11 GB free. You try to start the computer up without the Leopard install disk in and it does the "OS? What OS?" thing (folder with a flashing question mark), but if you have the Leopard install disk in, it tells you all about needing to create the "previous system" folder etc. and needing more disk space to accomplish this. Any ideas as to what we could try if we really don't want to reformat the drive?
Thanks.

Today we tried to install Leopard on a G5 tower which had previously been running the server version of Tiger. It gave us a message about being unable to just write over the system because the regular OS cannot replace server, so it would have to put all the system preferences and user accounts and all in a folder labeled "previous system" on the hard drive and then it would install the OS. We told it to do that, and it ran the install. At the very end (after about an hour and a half of installing), it gave us an error saying that it was unable to complete the installation because we were trying to put the regular version over Server and to try installing it again. We clicked the "Install" button, but it had put approximately 11 GB of who knows what on the computer, and now wants another 11 GB for the new install, but we don't have 11 GB free. You try to start the computer up without the Leopard install disk in and it does the "OS? What OS?" thing (folder with a flashing question mark), but if you have the Leopard install disk in, it tells you all about needing to create the "previous system" folder etc. and needing more disk space to accomplish this. Any ideas as to what we could try if we really don't want to reformat the drive?
Thanks.

Does Leopard Installation over Tiger = slower comp? also, audio Question

I need a laptop for college this fall. and im up in the air between Macbook and the HP DV2500t
Sadly, it looks like if i go with Mac, ill have to shell out another 130 just 2 months into having the computer, which leads to my main question.
Will installing OSX10.5 on a Macbook that (HOPEFULLY) has a spankin new Santa Rosa chip make the comp any slower in the long run?
is there anything I can do to avoid the slowdown? or will it run like new?
ALSO!
As i new musician who records ideas nightly, I use an external mic with a 1/4 to 1/8 converter so i can put it into the Mic Jac in the back of my PC...
I saw that Macbook only has a headphone and Line in jac. Can i plug my enternal mic on?
THANKS!

i dont follow with the pre amp... the volume might
not be up to par?
some microphone only transmit weak signal that need to be amplified by a pre-amp, but if your mike produced strong signal, then you don't need a pre-amp.
also... whats the deal with 'it runs on a white
macbook'.. what does the color have to do with the
OS...
is it in qestion whether or not Leopard will run
right?
Because the demo shows it run on white macbook, that is mean that today macbook will run 10.5.x, either black or white.
Also, just as Mac users... why would apple hold back
from Santa Rosa... HP had them in all new laptops in
the 2nd week of may...
That is their decision and we are not allowed to discuss it here based on the user term and agreement that we must agreed before posting any thread.
Good Luck.

Can A Boot Camp Partition Made With Leopard Live With Tiger?

If I downgrade from Leopard back to Tiger, will my Boot Camp XP partition still be bootable and recognizable?

The short answer is YES. I say that because now all driver updates are offered by apple on the WINDOWS SIDE via Apple Software Update so you shouldn't need Leopard for that. This means that downgrading to Tiger should not affect the Windows partition and its contents.
Be sure to back up everything before downgrading.
Axel F.

Upgrading from 10.4.11 'Tiger' to Leopard

Hi, I have a mac running on 10.4.11 and someone bought my daughter 'iLife 09' as a Christmas Present but we cannot install it unless we have Leopard Software. Is there anyway to 'upgrade' to Leopard without having to go out and buy a whole new Snow Leopard Software package. I took the iLife 09 back to the apple store to get a refund - because I thought I might as well just buy the new Snow Leopard as it is included in this - but as it had been opened (my daughter tried to install it) they would not give a refund. So if I can upgrade at a relatively low cost to Leopard, then I can install iLife so it won't have gone to waste. Can anyone advise? Apple told me to ring one of the London stores and ask for the 'Archive' department, but I'm sure I read somewhere that it is possible to upgrade online. Look forward to hearing from .... someone ... ?! Thanks. Shona

Kappy wrote:
Alternatively you can purchase the Apple Boxed Set at $169 USD that contains iLife, iWork, Leopard, and Snow Leopard.
AFAICT, the boxed set doesn't contain a separate Leopard installer, only Snow Leopard, which may not work on the iMac in question. Apple's phone sales is the only Apple outlet for the retail Leopard installer—$129 USD.
mstetz wrote:
It's too bad that it would violate Apples TOS if you bought the US$30 Snow Leopard upgrade intended for Leopard users and installed it over Tiger.
That's not true. See http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2304131

Downgrade from Leopard to Tiger

Long story short, I'm an idiot, and wasn't thinking while doing this.
Installed Leopard, decided that it wasn't compatible with some film software I use for school, and didn't like the look and feel of it, so put in my Tiger install disks to do what I thought was a simple reinstall. Guess not.
BUT!...
I still have all my applications listed under "apps", but I'm in a new profile that Tiger install made me set up. I can't connect to the internet for some reason (with our protected network, even though I know the key). And I have a "Previous Systems" folder on my Mac HD drive, that has all my old stuff, including my old profile, with all my old files (music/movies/photos/etc).
My question, how do I get that back to being my current profile? And is Leopard still installed on my drive? I think it might still be because I lost 15GB space somewhere....
Thanks, and yes, I know I'm an idiot.

caravot wrote:
Long story short, I'm an idiot, and wasn't thinking while doing this.
Installed Leopard, decided that it wasn't compatible with some film software I use for school, and didn't like the look and feel of it, so put in my Tiger install disks to do what I thought was a simple reinstall. Guess not.
BUT!...
I still have all my applications listed under "apps", but I'm in a new profile that Tiger install made me set up. I can't connect to the internet for some reason (with our protected network, even though I know the key). And I have a "Previous Systems" folder on my Mac HD drive, that has all my old stuff, including my old profile, with all my old files (music/movies/photos/etc).
You probably did an Archive and Install and the Previous System Folder has you Leopard stuff.
It could be that if you installed Leopard over Tiger as an Archive and Install, that the Previous System folder contains your old Tiger stuff and maybe your recent Leopard stuff.
My question, how do I get that back to being my current profile? And is Leopard still installed on my drive? I think it might still be because I lost 15GB space somewhere....
You need to run the disk utility and repair the disk, if necessary and repair permissions.
That's a starter. You still may have other issues because the Tiger accounts are probably different from those of the Leopard system.

"Upgrading" from leopard to tiger.. Migration Assistant cant see 10.5

10.5 runs like a pig on my 12" G4. I re-installed 10.4 onto a new volume and it runs just like it used to. For comparison I had also tried a clean 10.5 and it ran just as slow.
So anyway, what I wanted to do was use the migration assistant to pull my data from 10.5 over to 10.4 but when I point to the 10.5 volume MA doesnt see anything. I suspect maybe this is by design and such a "downgrade" isnt supported.
Has anyone tried this?
My other option is to create a backup of the 10.5 volume then just try an archive+install of 10.4 over the top.
Lets hope 10.6 runs better!

WEll, it;s not that easy Darrin,
Leopard puts things in different places than Tiger did.
Hopefully one of the people that recently posted on how to do it will drop in, because I can't find it!
suspect maybe this is by design and such a "downgrade" isnt supported.
Nope... how would they know what Leopard would do with files when they made Tiger?
My other option is to create a backup of the 10.5 volume then just try an archive+install of 10.4 over the top.
Lots of stuff you have now won't be in the right places.

Downgrade from Leopard to Tiger after Built-In Keyboard Firmware Update?

Can I downgrade from Leopard to Tiger after having applied the Built-In Keyboard Firmware Update 1.0? This firmware update requires OS 10.5.2 or higher to be installed. Now that it is installed can I downgrade back to Tiger (10.4.11)?
I have a MacBook Pro 17 (late 2006). It ran perfect except for the occasional ignored first key press problem that these MacBook's have. In late December I upgraded to Leopard (10.5.6) and installed the Built-In Keyboard Firmware Update 1.0 that is suppose to fix the ignored first key press problem. Ever since then I have had constant keyboard & trackpad failures. When the built-in keyboard fails, thankfully I can still use an external USB or Bluetooth keyboard & mouse. I've tried everything. I've reinstalled Leopard four separate times, reset PRAM, reset SMU, repair permissions, pressure on the keyboard cable under the battery (even though I don't think this version of the MacBook has that problem). Nothing restored my internal keyboard and trackpad. During this process I tried to re-install the Built-In Keyboard Firmware Update using the original package file that I had downloaded, however I was given a message that the keyboard didn't need to be update because it already has the updated functionality and the installer package would then quit. Then I remembered that the original firmware update actually installed a Keyboard Firmware Update application in my Utilities Folder. When I ran the Firmware Update application in the Utilities Folder it instantly fixed my keyboard problem! Unfortunately the keyboard fix is not stable. It fails 2 to 3 time a week. Running the Keyboard Firmware Update application fixes the problem every single time, but this renders my MacBook useless as a portable (I have to have an external keyboard/mouse to run the Firmware application). I have, incidentally, tried all the other suggestions in the many keyboard threads in this forum (putting the computer to sleep, restarts, shut downs, PRAM & SMU resets, repairing permissions, running other applications, etc.), and nothing works except reinstalling the Keyboard Firmware Update using the application in the Utilities Folder. At this point I just want to downgrade to Tiger and go back to the way it was. I'll happily take the ignored first key press problem over a completely dead keyboard.
Please help.

Hi,
I was just wondering how you were able to get the macbook to accept the update? I had to take mine to apple store and get entire keyboard and trackpad replaced in my macbook. They then told me to ignore the update cause they did not have any other keyboards to replace if it happened again.

Hi, I want to downgrade from OSX LEOPARD to OSX TIGER but I have a few questions regarding this. My iMac is originally from 2007 it came preloaded with tiger. I have original install tiger discs version 10.4.10. Is it safe to downgrade or not please help

Hi, I want to downgrade from OSX LEOPARD to OSX TIGER but I have a few questions regarding this. My iMac is originally from Sep 2007 it came preloaded with tiger. I have original install (2) tiger discs version 10.4.10. I want to know if it is safe and what are the necessary steps to do so. Also by downgrading im wondering if a lot of apps nowadays support tiger for example I have photoshop version 5 and 4 these are very important to me. One last question does anyone know of any reliable virus protection for mac that doesnt slow down your computer? because I have read that a lot of them do so. If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it! Here are the specs for my iMac
Model Name:
iMac
Model Identifier:
iMac7,1
Processor Name:
Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed:
2 GHz
Number Of Processors:
1
Total Number Of Cores:
2
L2 Cache:
4 MB
Memory:
2 GB
Bus Speed:
800 MHz

Most of the time a perception of general slow performance is the result of installing third party junk alleged to speed up, "clean" or "optimize" your Mac, or to look for viruses that don't exist. Ideally you would know what you installed so you can uninstall it, but if you don't know or aren't sure there are techniques such as Safe Mode and creating a temporary user account to confirm that suspicion.
If you open Activity Monitor it may show a process, or processes, that occupy a lot of your system's time.
Slowness confined solely to web browser activity is often the result of an inexorable progress toward websites that demand ever more processor-intensive tasks. If your slow performance is strictly limited to web browsing, you might try disabling Flash by either uninstalling it, or use utilities such as ClickToFlash that allow you to control what Flash content gets loaded. Flash in itself is not inherently evil, but there is nothing to stop websites or the advertisers who pay for them from writing horrible Flash code that can do everything from hogging 100% of your CPU's time to causing random crashes. You can watch Activity Monitor as in the above to correlate these troublesome web pages with performance degradation.
You are correct; if your computer shipped with Tiger you may certainly revert to it. I forgot that Tiger was shipping on new Macs as recently as five years ago. To downgrade it would be necessary to completely erase your hard disk and boot with the Tiger installation DVD, followed by installing it anew. Such drastic measures are not necessary and you are unlikely to be satisfied with the results anyway.
Assuming your system is free of third party parasitic junk attached to OS X in an ill-conceived attempt to improve upon it, that your hard disk drive is sound and the boot volume has enough free space to work with, by far the best performance-enhancing improvement would be to add more memory. Buy as much as your computer can use and that you can afford. 2 GB is not that much any more.
Read the following for some recommended troubleshooting techniques from Apple:
General purpose Mac troubleshooting guide: Isolating issues in Mac OS X
Creating a temporary user to isolate user-specific problems: Isolating an issue by using another user account
Memory limitations: Using Activity Monitor to read System Memory and determine how much RAM is being used
Identifying resource hogs and other tips: Runaway applications can shorten battery runtime
Starting the computer in "safe mode": Mac OS X: What is Safe Boot, Safe Mode?

Downgrading to Tiger from Leopard on a mac mini 2.0ghz

I just purchased a mac mini 2.0ghz that came with Leopard.
Since I am relatively new to the MAC world, I assumed that I could immediately replace Leopard with Tiger on the HD using a set of mac mini install discs I had previously purchased on eBay (I'm doing this because this mini was going to be used exclusively to run ProTools - which isn't Leopard compatible)
From the little bit I've read, it looks like I may have made a $800 mistake. Most places are saying that it it absolutely impossible to downgrade from Leopard to Tiger on this late model.
Is that really true? I just find it so hard to believe that the hardware and software are so tied together that you can't ever go 'backward' even if you want to.
Could someone please state clearly once and for all if there is any possible way to downgrade or do I need to throw my new mac mini in the proverbial trash can and chalk this one up for the experience?
Thanks.

Welcome to Apple Discussions!
This issue was raised by another poster very recently (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1497891&tstart=0). Typically Macs cannot be booted from MacOS versions which predated the release of the hardware, or subsequent firmware update perhaps, but since Leopard was not released until after the current Core 2 Duo minis, it goes without saying that at least some of these systems did in fact have Tiger installed.
If Apple have made no hardware or firmware changes to the mini (and it's a big if, because typically that information is not made available), then Tiger should install and run fine on your system, proving only that the Tiger installer you have is actually from a 'late 2007' Intel mini.
The only way you'll know is to insert the Tiger installer you have, and boot the system holding the C key down (you will need a wired USB keyboard which is NOT one of the new aluminium type). If the system boots, then you should be able to do an install. Bear in mind that you will almost certainly get an error stating you cannot install that version of MacOS on the system because it will detect that you have a later version of MacOS already installed than on the install disk. That's normal. You can get around that by clicking the 'options' button on the installer and selecting 'erase and install', which wipes the hard drive and installs MacOS.
If the system will not boot from the Tiger install disk, then in effect that would confirm that you will not be able to regress the macOS version - at least not by any conventional means. There are always some who investigate and find ways to work around some of these limitations, so there may be an unofficial and unsupported workaround out there, but there would be no way to know how stable it would be, and whether you would be able to successfully update it.

Go back from leopard to tiger

Please, I need support.
How can I do to go back from Leopard to Tiger?
Affter installing Leopard, I have continuosly Kernel panic when shut down my iBook.
Thanks in advanced

Michelle & Randy wrote:
I need to go back to Panther restore discs that came with my imac G5. There are too many important apps that just are not compatable with Leopard ie. Creative suite 2, Freehand MX. I can not print to high res PDF. Nothing happens and I do not have time to wait for all new programs to arrive. As a matter of fact I don't even think there is a leopard freehand verision. Will my restore CD's give me the option to erase and install. Yes I have several firewire drives with my system backed up.
I believe the proper way is to use your Leopard DVD to erase the HD. I would perform a full erase (include freespace), then boot, holding down the "C" key and install Panther. However, at this point you should seriously consider Tiger. I am presuming your PowerBook is a PPC (non-Intel) OS. The commercial Tiger CDs will install on your system. I upgraded my G5 from Panther, which it came with, to Tiger when it came out. Tiger is far superior to Panther.

Reinstalling Tiger from Leopard on a iMac G-5

Can I reinstall Tiger from Leopard on iMac G-5 without loosing data? I would like to use OS9 again.
Thanks. Ken Thomson

keep in mid that archive and install downgrade suggested above doesn't give you the option to preserve users settings. this means that you'll have to go through account setup again. You old home directory should be buried somewhere in the previous system folder (see this [link|http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107297]).

Reinstalling Tiger from Leopard

Can I reinstall Tiger from Leopard without loosing any data? I would like to be able to use OS 9 again.
Thanks, Ken Thomson

If you have an Intel Mac, OS 9 (Classic) won't work in Tiger, either.

Authentication from Leopard Gear over Tiger Servers

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