Authoring and codec for Blue Ray

Hi,
We must deliver a Blue Ray DVD in a few months.
Everything has been edited in 1920X1080 23.98 p.
1) Can we compress the program in MPEG-2 like SD-DVD ?
2) Can we make the authoring in DVD Studio Pro 4.2.1 ?
thanks

Antoine,
BR authoring on the Mac isn't really possible yet. PP CS3 does include Encore which will do a very limited-author for BR but it's not the full specification.
If you absolutely must author in BR and don't want to spend 100k for Sonic Scenarist (and the required hardware) there might be one way to do it effectively - but nobody has tested this yet, so you'll be on the bleeding edge of experimentation...
You could use BootCamp with Leopard and install an XP partition; purchase Roxio's DVDit Pro HD and do your authoring on the PC side. See this website:
http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/dvdit/hd/overview.html
You'll have to experiment a bit with output from Compressor to provide a file that the Roxio app will like, but it might just work.
If that's not an option, then you'll have to take your project to an HD authoring facility and pay anywhere from $5-$15k to have it properly BR authored.

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How do I determine correct media encoder settings for Blu-Ray

I am successfully producing Hi Def Blu-Ray disks by using one of the presets available in Premiere media encoder. Actually using the HDTV 1080i 25 High Quality setting. They playback in beautiful high definition but I think I was just lucky. I would really like to know what determines the setting I should use.
1. I live in Australia so I assume PAL.
2. My camera is a Sony HDV. HCR HC9 1440 x 1080i. I assume this is irrelevant to export encoding settings for Blu-Ray.
3. The export encoder preset has field order set to Upper. I would have thought I should either match the project settings which is interlaced to match my camera and project. OR more likely I should match the audience TV which would be a widesceen plama or LCD TV. I dont know if these TVs are interlaced or progressive. OR is it more a question of what field order the Blu-Ray player expects me to send on the disk?
4. I will play on a TV 1920 x 1080 pixel capable and on slightly lower resoultion widescreens. The encoder preset is for 1920 x 1080 so I assume that's ok for all widescreen TVs even lower definition ones.
As you can tell I am a learner. Any suggested links to basic reading on the subject would help me.
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PS Put this item in wrong forum previously.

Since no response I've been searching and found the following.
When encoding to make a Blu-Ray disk from my HDV 1080i footage:
1. Tell encoder the source is 1080i That is interlaced and it's TOP field first for HDV footage.
2. Tell it to encode to 1440 x 1080 resolution. You could tell it 1920 x 1080 but it will take much longer to encode. Will be good but why bother. All BD players will automatically up the 1440 to 1902 full screen.
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Seems Panasonic is good. Samsung probably good. Sony and Sharp probably not able to read (yet).
4. All players read MPEG-2 compression and H264 compression. Use a bit rate of 25 Mbps for MPEG-2 encode or 18 Mbps for equivalent result in H264 encode. Can use higher rates. These are minimums for a very good result
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i have a project shot on the Sony EX1 at 1920 x 1080 p. I want to export using ADOBE MEDIA ENCODER to 1920 x 1080 progressive 25 FPS. Most options are for US standards, when I click PAL it only offers interlaced.
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