Auto-Quit Front Row on exit?

Hi everyone.
Having just received a new MacBook with Leopard, I've been playing around with the new version of Front Row. First off, it's great, runs smoothly and exactly as I want it to. However, I've noticed that Front Row.app uses an awfully big chunk of RAM. This is understandable for when it's active/running - it's a hefty app. The thing I don't like is that after I've exited Front Row, it's still running (as shown in Activity Monitor), still using a big amount of RAM. Is there a way to change the behavior of it, so that when I exit Front Row with the remote it actually quits the Front Row.app process? It's kinda annoying to go into Activity Monitor to quit it manually. Also, the Front Row app icon, now available in Leopard doesn't show it as actively running, so no help there. Does it eventually quit on its own, and I'm just jumping the gun by going to Activity Monitor?
Thanks!
William

Saying it will 'eventually' quit is a little vague. Any idea how long it floats around running in the background for? I have an external drive I use with my MacBook, with aliases that point toward it in my movies folder (so that I can view movies stored on the external drive). The problem is that until Front Row /quits/ I cannot eject the drive. So I have to fire up Activity Monitor and quit Front Row that way. Rather annoying, especially when I just want to eject the drive, close the laptop, and get moving.

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    Message was edited by: dWon

    If you use the Accounts System Preferences to create a new user, then log out and log in as the new user, do they encounter the same trouble? If not, then it would seem to be a problem with your preferences/settings or some of your media. If you do encounter the same trouble, then there's some kind of system-wide problem that might require re-installing Mac OS X.
    Before you go quite that far, is all your software up-to-date with the new Front Row? iTunes? iPhoto? QuickTime? Also, what kind of Mac is this on? Your profile says Mac Pro (2008) but those wouldn't have had Mac OS X 10.4.x on them at all...
    -Doug

  • The new Front Row should take a backseat.

    The Front Row on Leopard looks better, except for the fade-in/out effect instead of the desktop-being-pushed-back effect.
    But its functionality has gone down. You can no longer resume movies or even leave the music on when you quit front row...
    Is there anyway to get that functionality back on the new Front Row?? Its Apple, we should have everything, the looks and the works!
    Its also a no-go on the feedback to apple... They don't have an option for Front Row.
    If Apple people are reading this... you know what to do in 10.5.2!

    arunjitsingh wrote:
    The Front Row on Leopard looks better, except for the fade-in/out effect instead of the desktop-being-pushed-back effect.
    But its functionality has gone down. You can no longer resume movies or even leave the music on when you quit front row...
    Front Row appears to be a new application. The Front Row version supplied with remote control equipped Intel Macs seemed to call upon iTunes (and thence Quicktime) to do its heavy lifting. Thus iTunes helper would keep music playing after Front Row quit. The other feature you didn't mention you lost was that Front Row would play music wirelessly via Air Tunes and an Airport Express when it used iTunes. It also fails to use an external monitor for DVDs.
    The new Front Row can be legally used by owners of Mac gear that doesn't have a remote control. This is a great leap forward for those who don't as yet have an Intel Mac, or who have a Power Mac. Plus Front Row now plays DVDs without invoking iTunes. It even plays DVDs from your hard drive (complete with cover art, if you add a jpg to the TS_Video folder). This is a great advantage for people living in the majority of countries where iTune Store does not offer movies at all. It would not surprise me to see further upgrades of Front Row fairly soon. Personally, I love it.

  • Front Row: missing resume option

    There's a serious issue with front Row... whoever decided what to put in the new Front Row forgot to add a "resume video" option. So now you have to start the movie from the beginning and go all the way forward (there used to be an option in Tiger to resume or play from the beginning)

    Ok, I think I've got a handle on what's happening. It gets a little circular, especially the inconsitancies between iTunes movie playback and front row movie playback.
    Here is my situation:
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    It appears that Front Row will still remember your playback position, but only if you are more that 5 seconds into the film. If you stop a movie earlier than 5 seconds in, front row sets the resume playback position to the position of the playhead in the saved QT file (not the beginning for me). It does not however set the bit to prompt the user to resume the next time the movie is played in front row. So stop before 5 sec, hit play again, playback jumps immediately to the poster frame, no prompt. I know that the position is saved upon stopping the movie because if i stop before 5 seconds and then quit front row and play the same movie in iTunes, playback begins at the poster frame. If i let it go for more than 5 sec in front row, playback in iTunes resumes at that point. This is all repeatable.
    Going the other way -- resuming movies that were last played in iTunes in front row. This works, but is also buggy.
    This is all a result of separating front row from iTunes. Something in my opinion apple never should have done. It is the root of most of the new problems with front row. In tiger i spent the time orgainizing my TV shows exactly the way iTunes and front row wanted them, name, season number, episode number. New front row says "f" that, how about reverse chronological for everything?!?! You may not be able to find the next episode of a show you wanna watch, but you get to that realization in less than three clicks! Apple: sacrificing mantra for usability. Honestly though, I don't think they really put that much thought into it. This is a secondary app that not many people use on an OS that was way behind and needed to hit an already extended launch date. They probably just dragged it over from apple TV, saw that it started and said thats that.
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