Auto Scene/Cut Detect (post-capture)

I am looking for a way to take an already edited and encoded videostream and have final cut pro analyze the video and place a marker every where it detects a cut.
I am not sure if this is possible. I did read of a application that did something like this in after effects by duplicating the track, overlaying it, and shifting it by 1 frame, it would then do some sort of analysis to detect if the overall pixel data changes between the tracks at any point and places a marker there.
Any body have any ideas for Final Cut?
thanks,
ryan

Hello,
Such tool exists even for FCP. E.g. scene detector:
http://www.scene-detector.com
Another one is CatDV PRO (CatDV Lite can't do it).

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I presume you are talking about DV as Premiere does not provide HDV scene detect. There is a reasonably priced, stand-alone program called Scenalyzer that will chop your captured video files into clips using either timecode changes or optical scene change detection.

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i would really really like to turn this option off.
in previous versions iMovie imported full clips - how do I get it to do this again with iMovie 9??
I looked in preferences and do not see the option to turn auto scene detection off.
I use iMovie to import and then i turn around and export to QuickTime Full Res for use in Final Cut Pro.
Thanks!
Enero

iMovie does not capture timecode...which is one of the most important things in video editing. If you edit and spend months on a project, and the drive containing your media dies...gone...then you are hosed. Because you cannot recapture the footage exactly the same way you did before...you'll have to re-edit from scratch.
If you have timecode, then when you went to recapture the footage, it would keep the same IN and OUT points and recapture the clips and your timeline would remain intact.
A better way? What is wrong with capturing with FCP? It is designed to do this you know...
A better way would be to get a capture card like the AJA Kona LHe and capture the footage as DVCPRO HD. MUCH easier to work with than HDV native, and not as lossy picture wise as AIC.
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Primere Pro has an option when capturing "scene detection", makes capturing individual clips easy and fast. I would think there's a similar feature in FCP 5.1?

Start/Stop detect does not, on its own, make individual clips. You use it in a process to make 'sub-clips'. Sub-clips are pointers to the main clip, they are not individually editable files.
If you are shooting HDV, FCP5 can create new clips on GOP frame breaks which is the same thing as scene detection.
If you are shooting DV, you need a 3rd party app (for example CatDV + Live Capture Plus) to create individual clips from long captures.
good luck.
x

IMovie capture from DV tape without auto scene break

Has anyone figured out to prevent iMovie from automatically inserting scene breaks in iMovie'11.
I am importing previously edited footage for conversion. This still contains the timestamps.
After importing, iMovie automatically places each clip by time/date order in Events - which means it is jumbled up because it has previously been edited.
Basically what I want is either 1) to import as a single clip, i.e. disable auto scene break, or 2) to be able to sort clips into same time/date order that they were imported.
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iMovie will assume that anything imported in DV Stream is coming directly off a camcorder, and therefore will be sorted in chronological order.
If you still have access to the software where you created these movies, you can share them out in something other than DV Stream.
For example, if you have iMovie 06, you can import it without auto scene breaks. Then Export Using QuickTime to an mov container in the DV codec. That will produce an mov file that iMOvie 11 will import in the correct order.

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I'm totally new to Final Cut Pro and have recently purchased my Mac Pro and FCP Studio 2. I come from background of Pinnacle Studio on PC and so this seems like a huge leap.
Any way, With Pinnacle Studio, when capturing video it automatically made each scene (point between Start rec and Stop rec on Video Camera) into a clip. I could then drag&drop the clips I wanted into my project timeline. I can tnen eaily add transitions inbetween these clips in my time line.
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Here is a bit of the FCP manual that relates to capturing a single tape and capturing individual clips for each break in TC:
How to Avoid Capturing Clips with Timecode Breaks
The “On timecode break” pop-up menu in the General tab of the User Preferences
window gives you several ways to avoid capturing clips with timecode breaks. It’s
important to set this option to suit the way you intend to capture your clips. You have
several options:
Â Make New Clip: This is the default option. Video that’s already been captured before
the break in timecode is saved as a single media file, with its Out point set to the
frame occurring immediately before the timecode break. Final Cut Pro then
automatically continues capturing video after the dropped timecode frame as a
second media file. When this option is selected, clips captured after timecode breaks
are named with the original name and the number of the clip. For example, if the
first captured clip’s name is “Cats Playing,” the second clip’s name is set to “Cats
Playing-1.”
This is a good option to choose if you are capturing an entire tape. For example,
suppose you are capturing the entire contents of a 60-minute tape that has four
timecode breaks. Instead of restarting the capture every time a timecode break is
detected, Final Cut Pro captures all media from the tape as five clips, skipping over each
timecode break and ensuring that the timecode of all captured media is frame-accurate.
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Detecting Video Capture Devices without Installing JMF

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I want to detect the video capture devices, without installing the JMF.
I had included the jmf (windows version) in lib path in netbeans ide. I am able to detect the audio capture device. But unable to detect the video capture devices. But if I install the JMF, I am able to detect the Video Capture devices in My system. Can anyone help me?
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The main idea is copy all .dll files to System or System32 (Please check files which JMF will copy to ur computer and where).
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Drop Frame detected on Capture

I am using FCP 5.04, I am capturing through a Sony DSR-80 using AJA IO LA, my connections are RGB I get video into FCP during preview. When I go to capture I get about 1 second of video then a error message that says "Drop frame detected on capture" then it freezes. I have a G5 4 gigs of ram. plenty of hard drive space. I am running Tiger OS. is there a setting that I can adjust, does anyone know what causes this? has anyone had this problem and solved it?

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Two possible fixes:
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2. Set your scratch disc to something faster. Also capturing to the drive you are using to run the OS and the App is not recommended, though it will often work.
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I want to detect whether the capture device in use in JMF.
I looked at the MediaLocator and CaptureDeviceInfo but I can't see any method to do that.
There is also no exception class for it?
So my questions are:
1) Whether we can detect a capture device in use?
2) Whether we can free the capture device ( The device is used by another thread or program) or to say take control of it.
Thank you very much.
Regards
K.

1) Whether we can detect a capture device in use? If you know the media locator of the device, and you attempt to use it while it's in use... you'll get an exception thrown. Not sure which one, but I'd imagine an IOException of some sort...
2) Whether we can free the capture device ( The device is used by another thread or program) or to say take control of it. You cannot.

Scene Detect when capturing

I am brand new to final cut and when i capture i want to capture a whole mini dv tape from the beggining and have final cut just detect the scenes and make seperate files for them. is this possible and if so how do i do it. if its not in final cut is there an app that will for me

Search for "DV Start/Stop Detection" in the Final Cut Pro User Manual which can be found in the Help menu inside Final Cut.
If you search for "DV Start/Stop Detection" on Google, you also get a few pages about it (e.g. this tutorial)
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Scene Detection during capture

I will try to keep this simple. Here's some background on what I am trying to accomplish. I shoot sporting events for recruitment videos. During the games I start and stop recording on each play. So at the end of the day I end up with 100+ clips for each game/match. During capture I need my software to be able to detect each scene which saves me valuable time in post. I can quickly scrub each clip and decide what to dump. I shoot in HD(HDV) because the resolution allows me to do much more during post.
Premiere Pro does not detect HD(HDV) scenes as every other NLE I have seen does. So my first question is why not? I hate having to use multiple NLEs/programs when the Adobe Suite of programs should do the job.
Without getting into why, I currently capture on a Macbook because iMovie and/or Finalcut will detect scenes. Then I use my Mac OS copy of Premiere Pro (CS3) to edit since it does allow me to import .mov files BUT I have CS4 Production Premium on a much more powerful PC which I would love to use BUT I cannot import the .mov files I have captured on my Macbook to PP CS4 on the PC ... I get a codec missing or unavailable message. Which I don't understand when Adobe publishes .mov files as being supported under the windows version. I contacted Adobe Support and was told the Apple Intermediate Codec (AIC) is not supported. How can that be? Isn't that Apples standard Codec? Sorry for the long winded post but there has to be a workaround or something simple I am missing. Any suggestions are appreciated.

Ok I have confirmed that setting the capture codec to ProRes422 when capturing via Finalcut Pro 6 on my Macbook Pro will allow me to import the same clips to Premiere Pro CS4 on my windows vista PC. Thanks again Colin!
Why? Because I use my Macbook Pro on location. I film sporting events which I have found works best in post if I start/stop recording after each play. I end up with 100 or so clips. I am making highlight videos so it is easier to scrub through small clips to determine what I am going to use than it is to scrub through the same 2 hour footage to tag in/out points. To get the clips I need a capture program that can detect scenes. Finalcut does this automatically during capture. I prefer to do all of my post in Premiere Pro but it will not detect scenes with HD/HDV footage. Finally when I get the footage home I have a much more powerful PC to edit and render out and being able to just transfer my .mov clips from the MacBook to the PC for import to PP is awesome.

IMovie Scene detection when capturing and hot keys

Two questions please (this is on a new imac) :
1) I have scene detection turned on for capturing (using a XL2), but it doesn't seem to stop and split up the scenes.
Does the scene detection only work when the time-code is broken - ie;
when the machine is powered off and on? Does it detect when it is paused?
2) Is there a list of hot keys for editing like the RAZOR tool etc?
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Scene detection normally works, so there must be something going on with you old camera.
I have a bunch of old analog 8MM tapes that I imported through a DV 8MM Digital camera. These all came in as 1 long clip.
It is true you can delete a frame and then use iMovie to split the events. However, I have found a much quicker way that is non-destructive and allows you to enter the date metadata.
1) Download and install MPEG Streamclip from Squared 5. You can google it.
2) Drag your long clip into MPEG Streamclip. (If you don't know where it is, Right-click on the clip in the imovie event and select "Reveal in FInder".
3) Think if dividing your long clip into Events (everything you shot on a single day, for example) - and Scenes (clips) - an individual unit of footage within the Event.
4) Move the MPEG Streamclip playhead to the beginning of the 1st scene and press I for in point. Movie the Playhead to the last frame of the scene and press O for out point.
5) Now, FILE/EXPORT TO DV. Save it to a location you can easily find, like a folder on your desktop. Give it name in the following format: clip-yyyy-mm-dd hh;mm;ss.dv This will preserve the time metadata for later when you are editing. You may want to have your camera handy so you can easily see this data.
6) Repeat this process until you have all clips done. You should find that the playhead is still at the out point. You can simply type I and you have set the in point for a totally nondestructive capture of the next clip.
7) Finally, open iMovie and use FILE/IMPORT/MOVIES... and navigate to the place where you saved all these clips. iMovie will import and sort into Events (you may have to check "split days into new events". Let it generate thumbnails and you are done.

Who Wanted Scene-Detection On Captured Footage With No Timecode?

Did I dream this ?
I am sure that recently somebody had captured some video without timecode and wanted to know whether FCE could split it automatically into separate scenes.
My only suggestion was to split it manually which would take ages.
Last night I was looking at Tom's "FCE 4 Editing Workshop" and came across a slightly quicker and less laborious suggestion than mine.
Basically load the clip into the Viewer, play it and each time there is a change of scene hit the "M" key which will insert a marker.
At the end, the clip in the browser will be split into segments just as though "DV Start/Stop Detect" had been used.
Then simply select all the segments and press cmd U which will convert all the segments to subclips.
This morning I eagerly searched through the old questions to see if it had been answered and if not, to offer my/Tom's answer.
Of course I could not find any trace of the question !
Did I dream it ?
If you are that person (or know the thread) could you please put me out of my misery!

Hello Ian,
You are in luck tonight/whenever it is in your part of the word:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5148749&#5148749
Al

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