***AUTOMATIC FRAME CONTROLS

If you use a preset in Compressor, the frame controls are automatic for the most part.
Quick Question:
Should you manually turn off frame controls when working with progressive footage?
The reason I ask is because I already noticed in the quality of the footage and by running various tests that when you use one of the DVD presets for progressive video, the field dominance doesn't correctly change to progressive when you have it set on automatic, and I just don't want the automatic frame controls to do any automatic deinterlacing if it doesn't recognize the progressive attributes.
Thoughts?
Thank you.

I would set it manually or turn it off. If you want a progressive output, remember that you might also need to set the field order to Progressive under the Encoder tab under *Video Format* on your MPEG-2 (m2v) setting.
If you do not deinterlace with Compressor, a DVD-player or LCD-TV will do it anyway in real-time, which most likely will look pretty bad. Also be aware that the Apple DVD Player application does automatic de-interlacing.
As Apple writes in the Compressor User Manual:
*Automatic button:* When this button is selected, Compressor analyzes the transcoding job (the source media file and the applied setting), and then automatically determines the appropriate Frame Controls attributes. For more information, see About the Automatic Settings.
In Automatic mode, Frame Controls technology is engaged in the following two types of transcodes only:
• Transcoding from high definition (HD) sources to standard definition (SD) MPEG-2 output files
• Transcoding from interlaced sources to H.264 for DVD Studio Pro and H.264 for Apple Devices (progressive) output files
Automatic mode when encoding to SD MPEG-2 does not necessarily de-interlace. You can open your .m2v-file in e.g. MPEG Streamclip and hit "cmd+i" to view info about the file. There you can double check if your finished file is interlaced or not and what field order it is set to.
You can learn more about *Frame Controls* by reading this excerpt from Apple Pro Training Series: Compressor 3.5 Quick Reference Guide, by Brian Gary.
A really helpful tip, is to set an in- and out-point in your Preview window in Compressor to see test results quicker. Testing different settings on long clips is both unnecessary and boring. Select about 10 to 30-seconds from an area in your clip that shows variety in your video (both fast moving and normal scenes).
Video compression, especially for web and DVD, is all about testing to find the optimal settings for best possible quality/filesize ratio. Almost every video source is unique, and should be looked at and tested with different settings depending on both source quality and content.
Hope this helps

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Again this is on 2 computers so it would be odd if it were preferences. I tossed preferences just in case and that didn't help.
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Anybody else experience this and/or have a solution?

I noticed the change in Compressor 3 (which I now have).
In my case I was trying to convert HD to H.264 and although the preset was set to "automatic" it apparently would turn off and NOT deinterlace whereas when I went from SD to H.264 it did deinterlace. That's what raised the concern.
Not quite what you describe in your 1 and 2 because I wasn't going to any from of DVD (MPEG2) but going from HD apparently required one to set it On in Compressor 2.3. I'll test this out in Compressor 3 but I think getting rid of "automatic" may avoid that confusion.

Urgent: Need help in automatic credit control

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Karan, Thanks For you Quick Response.
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OVAD: Dely.credit.grp = 03   (Credit group for goods issue)
AND
GI.Credit.group = 03 (Credit group for goods issue)
Is it correct?
My doubt is where exactly, we are telling the system to block the delivery.
In OV08, could you please tell me what are all the settings need to be done for
block delivery PGI
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This appears to be a trending topic on the support fora, but the solutions I've seen offered don't help.
In brief: QuickTime on Lion loads and appears to play videos for me, but I can't access any of its frame controls. I can't resize the window, I can't minimize or maximize it, I can't close it, and I can't drag it. Attempting to click any of the associated controls simply brings the Finder to the foreground. Quicktime will then not respond to any further mouse clicks untill I click its icon in the Dock and force it into the foregroud.
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Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Solved the problem.
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Frame Controls Settings

Hi,
I've made a FCP document captured in Sony HD1080i60. It's 22 min. in color.
Next I try to export this document using compressor.
My setting is at DVD Best Quality 90 min NTSC 29.97.
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Apparently, if Frame Controls, Resizing Filter and the Deinterlace is all chosen at 'Best', it will take 504 hours (according to the compressor).
If my objective is to have this played on anyone's home DVD player, is there much of a difference in quality? If anyone has any recommendation for my setting, please.
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Mugiho
You can find the answer by yourself and tell us later: select just a very short section/s of your movie (15/20 secs) and encode it using different settings. Select some "potentially problematic" parts, like with fast movements, etc.
No matter how low could be the encoding, it will take a short time and you can compare the final quality.
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I guess I would make my pal programme progressive there, if for instance it is going to be viewed on a computer screen.
not necesseraly...it may depend on several factors i.e. format, fast action displayed etc. And you should do a quick test with both options (progressive and interlaced) so that you can see.
I'm suggesting this because I think that testing is an essential part of the learning process and generally of the work.
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G.

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Well, I recently tried a test video (interlaced 4:3 DV) that I've used extensively to check Compressor 2. I used Compressor 3 on it to see if the Frame Controls could actually encode within a decent amount of time. I used the medium deinterlacing setting. It went faster than Compressor 2...but the output was far worse! In Compressor 2, it took longer, but it was excellent quality deinterlacing. Compressor 3 was terrible. Some motion was blurry/doubled, and there were chunks where no deinterlacing had been performed at all, as in I could still see the combing! What's going on here, Apple? Using the best setting in frame controls is useless unless you have a friggin' cluster or you have time to wait to collect social security, but at least medium still looked good, even if it took a long time. Now best still takes forever, but medium looks awful. I'm tempted to downgrade back to Compressor 2 after this.

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In case anyone is curious, the Auto Level is not for quality recording. It was jumping the volume around after all. Be careful of this. That's how you learn a new program I guess I wanted to redo some other stuff anyway so no big loss.

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I have some footage shot at 1080p30 and 720p24. I am certain they are progressive, based on the field dominance FCP chooses is "none." My question is after I edit and export to compressor do I need to turn on frame controls at all? I use to always shoot at 1080 60i and had to deinterlace and change output fields to progressive and deinterlace was either better or best. Since my video is now natively progressive, can I ignore frame controls? Some video will end up on the web, some will end up on DVDs and AVCHD discs. Any difference between web and dvd media for frame controls with progressive video?

abeas wrote:
My question is after I edit and export to compressor do I need to turn on frame controls at all?
Yeah, you probably don't need to worry about Deinterlacing with Frame Controls but, depending on your output frame size(s), you might need it for Resizing.
I find that if you're not dividing by a multiple of 2 (i.e. going from 1920x1080 to something other than 960x540 or 480x270), resizing with Frame Controls makes a difference. Well, except for this odd glitch in Compressor 3.5.
Or was that (needing Frame Controls for resizing) a given?

Compressor 3 + 8Core Mac Pro + Frame controls = Do your encoding overnight?

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Heres how came to this conclusion:
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Sounds like apple needs to come out with a software update.

so have some more information for any of you who are interested. the real culprit seems to be the adaptive details enabling this option makes my encodings on the macpro go approximately 20x slower. For comparison the power mac only slows down by a factor of 3 (for reference the macpro is a 2x4x3 Ghz w/ 9G Ram, the G5 is a 2x2.7 Ghz w/ 2.5 G Ram).
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http://slfcpug.ning.com/video/1975320:Video:4903
No need to make HD video SD to put on the web. Going directly to H.264 will keep the HD quality much, much better. If it's interlaced, going to web should be set to Progressive, Best, as you have it, but don't make it NTSC or anything first.

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Anyone else that has used frame controls on their presets notice that the new version is much different?
I am compressing HD source to MPEG2 for SD-DVD. I have always used FRAME CONTROLS in my presets because of the beautiful quality that I was able to get.
Now, all that quality is gone and I can seem to get the same look as before.
Anyone have any ideas?

Brian Gary wrote:
Were you encoding into DV NTSC and/or did you try ProRes and the output media. Just wondering if there's a difference in a less compressed codec.
In the screenshots above, yes, I was only encoding to/from DV NTSC.
But I did get a chance to experiment with some ProRes stuff just now.
Original file (640x360, 30 fps with Lower Field First; Field Rendering enabled) exported out of Motion 4 as ProRes4444.
The file was dropped into Compressor and flagged as Bottom-Field First.
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Converted to ProRes 422 HQ (Progressive) using the Compressor 3.5 preset (Frame Controls engaged - adjusted for Progressive output, Deinterlace to Better)
Converted to ProRes 422 HQ Interlaced using the Compressor 3.5 preset but resized to 480x270 without Frame Controls
Converted to ProRes 422 HQ Interlaced using the Compressor 3.5 preset but resized to 480x270 with Frame Controls (Only switched them On - adjusted no other settings)
Converted to ProRes 422 HQ Interlaced using the Compressor 3.5 preset but resized to 480x270 with Frame Controls (Set Deinterlace to Better instead of the default Fast)
Edited to add: I suspect the issue is tied to progressive material as anytime I go interlaced-to-interlaced (but resizing with Frame Controls) Compressor 3.5 doesn't do a bad job. But progressive-to-progressive (or interlaced-to-progressive) spells disaster with Frame Controls. <sigh>

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