Automatic Scene detection

Hi,
I just purchased a Powerbook and I am a new Apple user (converted from PC). I used to use a Pinnacle program but now I am very excited to try the iMovieHD which comes with the laptop.
Unfortunately, when I tried to create my first movie, I have a problem already with importing my images. My images won't split into clips. The program only shows everything as 1 long clip. I checked my preferences to make sure that the automatic scene detection feature is on. I didn't set the time and date of my camcorder.
My question is: (1) Is setting the date and time of my camcorder really criticial when you import the images? (2) eventhough the date and time is not set, i have several scenes which were shots at different time, but iMovie still didn't pick it up as a new clip, eventhough there was a good 5 seconds of nothing in the tape. How can that be? (3) if setting date and time the only way to do an automatic scene detection, what will be my next option to create several clips. Is there a way to do it manually (please...I hope this is not the answer).
Any tips are greatly appreciated. I already convinced my husband to convert from PC to MAC, hoping that for media stuff MAC is better and friendlier than PC. Please, show me that this is true.
Thanks in advance,
Amanda

Amanda
Here is a link to an Apple Article about automatic scene detection:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61412
My clock was not set, but as soon as I turn the "internal clock" on, it shows the correct time and date right away.
I'm a bit confused now! If the clock is showing the correct date and time then it must be set and shouldn't be causing a problem with scene detection. With my camera (see details below), when I switch to record (standby) mode and select the menu item Clock Set, it shows the date and time, but there is no switch to turn the clock off or on.
It might be worth doing a short test recording with, say, 3 or 4 short scenes with a break of about 10 seconds or so between each scene. Import that to iMovie and see if the scenes are automatically detected (make sure the preference is checked first). If not, it might be worth deleting (trashing) iMovie's preference file - it's in your User (Home) folder under Library/Preferences and named com.apple.iMovie.plist. A new default preference file will be created by iMovie next time it is opened - you may then need to change some settings to your own preference, as required. Note that preference files in OS X can sometimes become corrupted - trashing them can often fix minor issues.
John

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