Automatic STO for materials with split valuation
Hey Gurus,
Our client uses plant-to-plant STO to do transfers among internal plants. The current process: Run MRP in receiving plants --> MRP generates PReq --> Release PReq --> Assign Preq and create STO(from here, buyers manually check stock at issuing plant to see if there are "New" or "Rebuild" stock available, Rebuild stock always take the priority. Buyers manually assign Rebuild or New to ME21N).
The client tries to automate the STO process, ie, using ME59 or ME59N instead of ME21N. The problem is how the system does stock check and automatically enters"Rebuild" or "New" for materials with Split Valuation, which are done by buyers manually?
Thanks
JM
Hello,
Your client's request can be met with an user exit i guess. I have not used this but this is a suggestion that you can try if you wish.
The following things need to be done.
1. New PR type needs to be created and assinged to the STO document type.
2. When running a MRP at receiving plant, the system uses the special procurement key to create the STO requisition, hence we can write the relevant code in user exit in the MRP program. (please find the user exit for MD01)
3. If the special procurement key is 40 in the material master (MRP view), then system has to create the PR using the new PR type for STO. Also for those PRs the default batch should be "Rebuilt" entered while creating the PR.
4. As the batch is already entered in the PR, converting them to PO automatically will not be an issue.
if you feel that the above solution is little tough to implement, then please write a program to fetch the STO PRs and update the PRs one by one using the BAPI PR update or BDC with the batch "Rebuilt". This program you can ask the users to run before using ME59.
Regards,
Sakthi
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