Automation Data in Logic 8

Hi,
I apologise if this answer has been given ad nauseum ad infinitum in advance, but I am wondering how do I copy automation data along with a section of audio/midi? Moving it is easy enough but copying that data and pasting it at a particular point isn't as intuitive for some wierd reason. Once again, sorry.

If you option+drag a region Logic will ask you wether you want to copy the automation or not, if you want that. In the Preferences->Automation at the top you have three options: Always/Never/Ask

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Wrong forum.
Go here:
https://discussions.apple.com/community/professional_applications/logic_pro

Can't get automation data from RMX into Logic

I'm usinga tutorial that shows a simple way to use the RMX interfaceto write automation data to the master channel using RMX as a multitimbral instrument. It shows that you simply put the track in touch mode, engage play, and then move things on the RMX mixer. I can't get it to work this way. What am I forgetting?

Funny this is coming up, I'm doing this right now.
Try this:
Instantiate a mulit RMX on instrument 1. Create a multi instrument object in the environment. Don't cable it to RMX yet.
Create a transformer object. Double click the transformer. Okay here we go, follow close:
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Status = Control
Channel All
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-2- All
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Fix 2
Scale 1.0000 2
Thru
Now you'll see three black vertical lines in the middle. Click the middle line twice. This will cause you to have:
1st line: Vertical
2nd line: Starts at top of first line and goes diagnally down
3rd line: Vertical
That's if you want the Logic volume sliders to control the RMX volume sliders in RMX's mixer page. You have to cable it with the multi instrument to make it work...that's down below. Don't check "Filter Duplicate Events".
Here's the way to change the pan:
New transformer:
Under "Conditions":
Status = Control
Channel All
-1- = 10
-2- = All
Under "Operations":
Fix Fader
Fix 2
Scale 1.0000 10
Thru
Now Logics pan pot on the RMX multi controls the pan on the RMX Mixer page.
Now cable the multi-instrument object you created the first transformer, and then that transformer to the next, and then that transformer to instrument one. You're set!
Ok, now why does this work? I mostly understand it...
On Instrument 2, put a multi RMX plugin on. Now in the environment, create a monitor object. Cable Instrument 1 to the monitor object (don't cable the monitor object to Instrument 1, won't work).
Now with the environment page and monitor object still in view, open the plugin RMX on Instrument 2. Go to the mixer page. Move the volume slider for multi 1. You'll see some data show up in the monitor. Here's what it means (sort of):
You'll see something like:
2 2 92
2 2 91
I'll start by saying that the last number is just the volume value. Move the fader and it changes accordingly. So this number isn't important for this example.
The first number, 2, is related to RMX as an instrument. That's the 2 in:
"Operations"
Fix Fader
Fix 2 <---------
The next number is associated with multi one's volume slider in RMX. That's it's number. If you move multi 2's volume fader, you'll see:
2 3 91
2 3 95
And for multi 3's volume fader in RMX:
2 4 91
2 4 92
So that's why we get this:
"Operations"
Scale 1.0000 <----- because we're moving in incriments of 1, RMX Multi 1 had 2 as a second number in the monitor, RMX Multi 2 had 3 as a second number in the monitor, RMX Multi 3 had 4 as it's second number in the monitor
and then:
"Operations"
Scale 1.0000 2 <-------because the first fader, multi 1, STARTS on 2.
Okay, so that's what the monitor tells us. You can delete that monitor object now, or keep it there if you want to control other RMX values with Transformers.
So now the other parts....here's where I'm guessing, anyone can chime in here and correct me...
Under "Conditions"
Status = Control <-----because you're going to control the desired RMX fader/pot with your input of a continuous controller #.
Under "Conditions"
Channel All <---don't know why, but it is.
Under "Conditions"
-1- = 7 <------- That "7" is the continuous controller number of the volume sliders on the multi instrument channels in Logic. Here are other useful ones I've found in creating the mega autoload:
10 = pan knob on Logic multi inst
91 = reverb knob on Logic multi inst (i use this to control the amount of Aux 1 FX on any given RMX mutli. As a side note, RMX Aux 1 is:
"Operations"
Scale 5.0000 35
And then the subsequent Aux 2 is 36, Aux 3 is 37, and so on)
93 = chorus knob on Logic multi inst (I use this for Aux 2 FX)
74 = Frequency knob on Logic multi inst (i use this for Aux 3 FX, although you have to slam it to the left for 0, because it defaults in the center like a pan pot).
As for this:
"Conditions"
-2- All <------
And this:
"Operations
Thru <--------which is right below the -2- All
I think because we're not using those to change and "Transform" values, you just leave them the way they are.
Hope this helps! I'm sure more can be added by the genius dudes who roam these parts...
Tyler

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Hold "command" when switching between automation parameters.
Then you will get a dialog offering you the option to convert the existing parameter's data into the destination parameter, or "copy and convert" (which does the same but leaves the existing volume automation data intact.)

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I haven't done exhaustive research into which parameters work and which don't, but most of the parameters for individual voices within Ultrabeat don't - which is annoying as that is what I was trying to use it for.
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OK, well an update on this in case anyone's interested.
With some further experimentation I have discovered that this problem did not exist in Logic 7 - ie you can move current track automation data for individual Ultrabeat voices to the region.
It's also possible to move automation data for individual Ultrabeat voices using 'Move All Track Automation Data to Region,' so I suppose this is a kind of workaround, though it can be annoying if you don't want to move all track automation data.
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Insert or Cut Time and move automation data - how to do it?

Hi when I cut or insert time it moves the regions but not the automation data. I have tried switching nn 'move automation with regions' but it doesn't move the automation that goes past the end f regions eg plug in settings like delay feedbacks etc.
a) this seems to me to be really crazy - why if you had done a lot of detailed automation programming at the end of a song would you not want it to move if you cut 4 bars from earlier on in the song?
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best
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after using logic for years I have discovered a new bit and something very weird.
New Bit:
As well as Cut/Insert Time in the Region Menu
there is a Cut/Insert Time in the Edit menu.
if I start here:
http://www.applebananacarrot.com/downloads/pre.jpg
if I do the region Cut ( from the region menu on the arrange window):
look what happens to the automation data on track 21
http://www.applebananacarrot.com/downloads/postregioncut.jpg (track 21 data didn't move)
and compare it to this one doing everything else the same but using the Cut from the main logic edit menu.
http://www.applebananacarrot.com/downloads/posteditcut.jpg Track 21 automation data did move.
That to me seems wrong....
whaddya think?
best
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OK, for viewers of this topic I figured this out myself. There are two lines in the reference manual that pertain but even they were a little confusing. They read:
"Option - long clicking on a selection allows you to copy the selection." p.234
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hi , anyone here can give me some sugesstion ?
I want to move the automation data in different track at same time but i cannot find how to make it .
I have 7 tracks all written automation volumn data , and now I want to move them all 3 db down in some bars, it seems that i must move the automation one by one ?
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danseq wrote:
Unfortunately Logic doesn't yet have a trim or update mode, otherwise you could do it by using the group function on the fader channels, and using a fader movement.
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So, how best to achieve this in Logic then? Do I have to route tracks to busses and mix from there? Essentially duplicating my tracks in bus-form seems like a bit of an unnecessary step! Any helpful suggestions will be welcome, but please don't flame me. I'm sure I'll be able to figure out a new workflow once I get my hands on Logic and start using it myself!

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Hi. Can anybody tell me how I can move/copy/paste automation data that exists on multiple Aux tracks at the same time as I move/copy/paste midi and audio regions?
Currently I can move/copy/paste multiple midi and audio regions at the same time, and if they also have automation data with them this also gets moved/copied/pasted, BUT its the automation data on Aux tracks which doesnt.
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Many thanks,
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ctrl-cmd-E does not work? And cmd-1 doesn't work either?
Let's hope then that alt-K works, because that is where you can set keycommands. Any of the presets in the dropdown menu top left contains the commands you need.
I just did it myself, to check it; every keycommand preset there is, contains both combo's I've given.
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*Logic Pro>Preferences>Automation,* top item. Sounds like you have it set to "never". Set it to Always or Ask .

Automation data copied to another track?

I like the way I automated a track, and want to used that exact "volume" automation on the next track below in my arrange menu. Is there a way to copy/paste kind of process here to recreate this on another track?

Prior to Logic 7, Logic included an Automation Folder. This was basically an arrange page, that had all the automation in your song viewed as if they were audio or MIDI regions. You could easily option/drag automation from one track to another this way.
There is a way to it in version 7... read about it here:
http://community.sonikmatter.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t21249.html
I have my automation folder available as a screenset.
Once set up, this is probably the quickest way to achieve what you're wanting. However, I have also used the method mentioned above, where you drag the region, and Logic asks if you want to copy it (as long as you have "Ask" selected in your Track Automation Preferences).
Then just delete the copied region, and tell Logic not to delete the automation data.
Do look into the automation folder though. It allows you to move and copy automation data, just like you do audio and MIDI regions.

Edit Automation data

Greetings Logic-o-philes,
Is there a way to move track automation data; volume for instance, created on several tracks, all at once?
Thank you,
Boe

Boe Brown wrote:
Is there a way to move track automation data; volume for instance, created on several tracks, all at once?
What you want to do is access Logic's Automation folder. For some typically stupid Apple reasoning, easy access to this folder was eliminated in version 7. But you can still get to it...
Open the Automation Event list. This is only accessable via a key command, so you may need to create one. Open your key commands window, and in the search field, type in "automation".
Find "Automation Event Edit", and assign a key command to it.
Once you open the Automation Event Edit list (via your new key command). With the Event list open, go up to the windows menu and open "Arrange".
A new Arrange page will open, but on this arrange page, you are looking at all your automation data, in the form of regions, just like you see with MIDI and audio regions, on the main arrange page.
Within this Automation arrange page, you can cut, move, drag, etc... automation data, just like you do with audio nad MIDI regions.
So if you need to copy, say, volume automation on tracks 6 , 7 and 8, from bars 1 through 16, to bars 30 through 46, simply select the automation regions on those tracks, and option/drag them to the proper location.
Tip... merge the automation regions per track, once they are copied.
You may also need to disable automation view, and then re-enable it, when you go back to your main arrange page, to visabliy see the changes.
Tip #2.... save this automation arrange page as a screenset. So from this day on, when you want to copy/move automation, you're a screenset away from it.

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I can do a select all and delete all regions and notes, is there a way to do the same with automation?

In Logic, under Options on the top tool bar there is a Track Automation sub-menu. In that menu is a delete all automation command.
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