Automation Folder, Automation Event Editor, Automation copy and paste help

Hello. I have been reading the copy and paste automation threads and I still have a few questions. First, thanks to whoever posted the option double-click on track background to select all visible automation for that track. Also, thanks to whoever posted the option click an automation node to select all following visible automation nodes.
Now, how do you select the middle 10 automation nodes in a track with 30 nodes? Many people have stated that the answer is a rubberband selection. This does not work for me. When I click and drag on the track background using the pointer Logic thinks I'm trying to create a new automation node. When I click and drag on the track background using the marquee tool Logic selects the audio and automation data. Then it only pastes the audio only even though I have "move automation with regions" set to ask.
Some people have recommended the automation folder. When I open the Automation Event Editor and click on the tiny rectangle in the upper left corner I just get a short list of the automation data. Is this right? If so, how do I select the data I want and paste it to another track? Because when I select the automation data for a track and copy nothing seems to happen when I paste.
Any automation gurus out there willing to help? Please and thank you in advance.

Hello Pete. Thanks again. It's odd that something so potentially useful is so hard to get to. I guess that is what people are referring to when they say that Logic has a steep learning curve. Is there another way to get to the automation folder? I think that it should have it's own item in the windows menu instead of sharing it with the arrange window and being contextual.
The copy and paste in the automation folder (automation arrange seems more appropriate as I cannot figure where the folder is) does not work as I expected. For instance, when I select volume automation from a track then option drag it to the pan automation of another, it still copies it to the volume automation. I then have to command click volume then switch to pan and select copy and convert, which makes it MIDI, which you say is not recommended. Will you tell me why TBA (and I assume RBA) is preferred over MIDI based automation? What is the difference exactly? Thank you so much for your assistance.

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