Automation with logic and kontakt3

what is the secret to having individaul track automation using kontakt3

No secret - either automate the Aux tracks assigned to multiple outs of Kontakt
or
use the assignable automation parameters in Kontakt (in the Auto menue at the upper left) by dragging e.g. #001 to any knob of the instrument you want to control-in the track header select #001 and write your nodes with a controller or with your mouse. I´ll post a picture if you need more help.
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Noob needs help with Logic and Motu live setup.

Hello everyone,
I'm a noob / semi noob who could use some help with a live setup using 2 MOTU 896HD's and Logic on a Mac.
Here's the scenario:
I teach an outdoor marching percussion section (a drumline and a front ensemble of marimbas and vibes). We have an amazing setup of live sound to amplify and enhance the mallet percussion. There is a yamaha PA system with 2 subs and 2 mains which are routed through a rack unit that processes the overall PA balance. I'm pretty sure that the unit is supposed to avoid feedback and do an overall cross-over EQ of the sound. Other then that unit, we have 2 motu896hd units which are routed via fire-wire. I also have a coax cable routing the output of the secondary box to the input of the primary box (digital i/o which converts to ADAT in (i think?)..?
Here's the confusion:
There are more then 8 inputs being used from the ensemble itself, so I need the 16 available inputs to be available in Logic. I was lead to believe that the 2nd motu unit would have to be sent digitally to the 1st motu unit via coax digital i/o. Once in Logic, however, I cannot find the signal or any input at all past the 8th input (of the 1st unit).
Here's the goal:
All of my performers and inputs routed via firewire into a Mac Mini running OSX and Logic pro.
I want to be able to use MainStage and run different patches of effects / virt. instruments for a midi controller keyboard / etc.
I want to be able to EQ and balance the ensemble via Logic.
Here's another question:
How much latency will I be dealing with? Would a mac mini with 4gb of ram be able to handle this load? With percussion, I obviously want the sound as latency free as possible. I also, however, want the flexibility of sound enhancement / modification that comes with Logic and the motu896hd units.
Any help would be REALLY appreciated. I need the routing assistance along with some direction as to whether or not this will work for this type of application. I'm pretty certain it does, as I have spoken with some other teachers in similar venues and they have been doing similar things using mac mini's / logic / mainstage / etc.
Thanks in advance,
Chris

You'll definitely want to read the manual to make sure the 896HDs are connected together properly. ADAT is a little tricky, it's not just a matter of cabling them together. Go to motunation.com if you need more guidance on connecting multiple devices. Beyond that initial hookup, here are a couple of quick suggestions:
1. Open CueMix and see if both devices are reported there. If not, your connections aren't correct. Be sure to select 44.1kHz as your sample rate, otherwise you are reducing the number of additional channels. For instance at 88.2kHz you would get half the additional channels via ADAT.
2. You may need to create an aggregate device for the MacBook to recognize more than the first 896HD. Lots of help on this forum for how to do that. Again, first make sure you have the 896HDs connected together properly.
3. As for latency with Mainstage on the Mini, no way to know until you try it. Generally MOTU is fantastic for low latency work but Mainstage is a question mark for a lot of users right now. If the Mini can't cut the mustard, you have a great excuse to upgrade to a MacBook Pro.

Recording with Logic and Mackie Onyx?

Has anyone an opinion about how well these
new
Mackie Onyx mixers w/ the Firewire Card
perform working with Logic Pro 7?
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16 live channels simultaneously and getting
low latency as well as tracking out thru Logic
and the Mackie Onyx to a standalone CD-R for
mixdown/mastering?

It was my understanding that the audio which passes through the firwire pipe (in or out) does not carry the channel strip information with it.
this means that for tracking, your EQ settings will be for reference only. and you will have to use logic to EQ your work, and be careful on the way back in for CD burning not to double EQ your work.
Seems like a great idea, but has a number of drawbacks.
why not get a presonus or similar interface with many inputs, and then distribute the control room signal with something like a big knob?
seems like a simpler, more direct and ultimately "higher fidelity" solution.
imbmo anyhow...

What's wrong with Logic and Soundtrack Pro

Just spent a frustrating day trying to record with Soundtrack Pro and Logic
Soundtrack is working on and off
Problems:
1. Even if sounds are loaded in the multitrack editor, no sound when playing. Only the Solo (S) button make a track sound. No idea what's wrong?
2. Trying to record directly into a multitrack sometimes works, and sometimes not.
3. When making another attempt to record, the noise of death appeared (same as the long thread on Logic.
Finally I just recorded in Amadeus Pro. At least that software works. It just crazy. Look I accept there is a learning curve but this s just crazy
Apple is becoming an arrogant company that is becoming more interested in creating gadgets that providing tools that work
Sorry for the rant

BenB wrote:
I've worked on both Windows and OS X (Unix), with a few apps over the years. No one can possible work with every app on every hardware configuration possible on every OS available. So to make the statement you actually have is preposterous.
That said, Logic is the most used software in project studios. Mixing engineers like ProTools better. But the two have way more market share than anything else.
Hey Ben,
Sorry to bump your fanboy applecart... (don't mean that as derogatory as it may sound, I liked the play on words)
From everything that's happening here and the west coast (USA) many of the Logic users I know have switched to other software, the two Logic studios here have gone to ProTools mainly because Logic version 8 was so unstable, there are no more Logic studios here. The studio with the most business uses a Radar system, the second busiest studio is running Sonar. There is a fellow with a mobile system using a MBP and Logic but he uses version 7.
The University here took bids 3 years ago and opted for PC/Nuendo/RME setups.
So yes, Logic may indeed have the most project studio percentage but since every jerk can download it for free what is the quality coming out of these project studios? My point is, for professionals, Logic is becoming less and less of an option, most everyone that used it professionally has been disappointed in Apples support of the product, a long time between upgrades and except for user boards like this... literally zero professional support. You know there's problems when you call up Apple and know far more about Logic than the support staff. It seems like both of those are starting to improve but I think it's a little too late. Also... there's still the "blast of white noise" problem that hasn't been addressed, no professional studio can take that kind of chance.
Apple is using Logic to sell hardware, smart business, absolutely. However, cutting the price in half, removing the copy protection and throwing in the kitchen sink plus seemingly not giving a d@mn that the program is pirated leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
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Syncing issues with Logic and Akai MPC 1000

I followed the directions in the manual and even some advice on another forum related to MPC's, but I still keep having problems whether I sync as Logic being Master or Slave.
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Ok, so I checked the SMPTE offset. I switched it so it will start at 00:00:00:00 or what have you. Good news is that the play head is no longer stuck. The first time I tried this I got an error message saying "System Overload. The Audio Engine was not able to process all required data in time. (-10011)" after about 8-10 bars of recording.
Next time I tried this I did I stereo pass of one track and it worked perfect. It recorded the whole sequence and the sync was perfect. It was only that one time. Now I can't even get the empty initial bars to go through without getting that error.
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Oracle Backup End to End Automation with BRBACKUP and RMAN

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We are about to implement a Oracle on mySAP 2004 or 2004 i.e. either NW2004 or NW2004s. Currently we are on DB2 UDB.
We are going to use legato for backup.
legato networker module (I guess this is module built for BACKINT) for SAP is too costly, so we are looking at alternatives for backup using legato without using networker module.
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Appreciate your information.
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Hi Jason,
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best
justin

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"Multiple Tempo Events Detected" -- Propblem with Logic and Reason

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I want to get Logic Studio and Pro Tools M-Powered. I do film sound design and music as a hobby. I plan to compose music with Logic and edit film audio with Pro Tools.
Here is my main concern:
I want to get ONE firewire audio interface that will work with both programs (Logic Studio and Pro Tools). I need one that has multiple outputs because I will be mixing in surround sound (mostly the film audio). Are there any suggestions? Inputs on what people like, don't like, work well with both? What I should completely avoid? I figured Pro Tools M-Powered (as opposed to LE, HD) would be better for me simply because of price and possibly using the m-audio interface with Logic too.
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I've tried this (Mainstage) on both my home and mobile setups and there is one anomaly....
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My opinions and findings, nothing more - or less
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thanx sc. i will try it out shortly. Off Topic- since you speak german is was wondering if you don't mind what would the german translation be for "moonlight night tonight"- thanx gospel

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