Autonomous to LWAPP - Air1261 APs

Hi All,
I have just download the Auto-to-LWAPP upgrade tool and it is saying that it does not upgrade Air1261 from Auto-to-LWAPP, is it so? If yes, then what is the procedure to convert Air 1261 APs from Autonomous to LWAPP?
Also, when I start the upgrade tool, it says that a TFTP server is already running on the PC so it will start the application with "User external TFTP" option, however there is not TFTP running on my PC. Why this error is coming? Following is the snapshot of the error.
Looking for valuable response.
Regards,
Sohail

Take a look at these links as it will explain how to convert the AP's.
Using a TFTP Server to Return to a Previous Release
https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-18268
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/access_point/conversion/lwapp/upgrade/guide/lwapnote.html#wp160918
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ_NuxdRhQ4
https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-14960
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*Method 1 : ( Mode Button )*
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http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/access_point/conversion/lwapp/upgrade/guide/lwapnote.html
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1. Do we need LWAPP or will autonomous with WLSE work for us? (Specifically for fast secure roaming, or quick handoff, or whatever it is we need)
A: Go with LWAPP, more reliable, and easier to work with.
2. Do we need to use EAP-FAST (and thus a Cisco AAA server) or will EAP-TLS with IAS be enough?
A: I'd recommend, PEAP. More secure, and with everything Cisco, much easier to support, since TAC does not support the IAS server.
3. If we use LWAPP do we need WCS or will managing each 2000 series WLAN controller be enough?
A: If you are only contemplatign using 2006 at 4 locations, WCS wouldn't be a necessity. If you expand beyond that and decide to do something else, then yes WCS.
4. Will all this work with my HP switches and Andtran router?
A: It probably will, and it should, but for best results, going Cisco for the whole solution works the best.
Now, why go with 2006's? They are nice boxes, but you would need 4 of them. If you are static at 4 locatiosn with out need for growth, I'd go with a 4402-25. This is a single controller that can handle up to 25 AP's. With this, if you purchase the 1242 or the 1131, you can do HREAP, and keep all the subnets locally switched, that way if the WAN goes out, or the controller goes out, then the WiFi stays up for the local subnets. Naturally anything acrosss the WAN is not accessable.
That beign said, if you are backhauling everything to a central site anyway, might as well go with one 4402-25, single point of controll, instead of 4. And if you do need to add another site, then you still have 13 more AP's that can join instead of having to purchase another controller.
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