AVCHD log and transfer - Only from a camera?

I am thinking about upgrading my camera to a AVCHD camera.  I saw on a post that you can only log and transfer AVCHD footage from the camera and not just the card attached via card reader.  Can someone shed some light on this.  I want to be able to shoot, transfer/backup onto an external HDD and then Log and Transfer from the drive.  I want to keep the camera busy out in the field and not tied up on my desk.
Thanks community!
Brian

You may fing this helpful:
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/ross_shane/tapeless-workflow_fcp-7/video -tutorial
When using card readers make sure it supports the larger capacity cards or at least the size card you are using.
Al

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    Disclaimer: Apple does not necessarily endorse any suggestions, solutions, or third-party software products that may be mentioned in the topic below. Apple encourages you to first seek a solution at Apple Support. The following links are provided as is, with no guarantee of the effectiveness or reliability of the information. Apple does not guarantee that these links will be maintained or functional at any given time. Use the information below at your own discretion.
    Working with AVCHD: Log and Transfer FAQs
    Log and Transfer was introduced to the product chain in Final Cut Express 4, and is the program's process for ingesting files in the AVCHD format utilizing MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 video coding and either Dolby AC-3 or uncompressed linear PCM audio coding. The most frequently observed problems relating to the Log and Transfer process are generally quite easily addressed.
    What should I know before attempting to ingest my footage?
    The following facts regarding the Log and Transfer process were adapted from the [Apple Knowledge Base article|http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24840?viewlocale=en_US] on transferring AVCHD in Final Cut Pro 6.0.1 but still hold true for the current version of FCE:
    AVCHD support is available only on Intel-based Macintosh computers.
    AVCHD camcorders typically connect to computers via USB 2.0, not FireWire.
    DVD-based AVCHD camcorders are not supported in Mac OS X 10.4 or earlier.
    Standard definition video recorded with AVCHD camcorders cannot be accessed in the Log and Transfer window. SD and HD clips should not be mixed on the same HDD.
    Preview of AVCHD video in the Log and Transfer window is limited to 1x forward playback. Scrubbing the playhead does not update the video in the Preview area until you stop scrubbing.
    When you choose to transfer AVCHD audio in the Logging area, audio is automatically mixed down to stereo.
    AVCHD footage is not ingested natively but is transcoded to the Apple Intermediate Codec.
    Apple Intermediate Codec files are significantly larger than the original AVCHD files. FCE does not estimate the size of a transcoded AVCHD file before ingesting, so it is possible to exceed the available space on your capture disk during transfer. Before ingesting, keep in mind that the disk space required is about ten times greater than the size of the native AVCHD file.
    Which specific formats can be ingested by Log and Transfer?
    Only AVCHD footage can be ingested through the Log and Transfer process. Other formats and variants such as AVCHD Lite are not supported. All video should be recorded in a frame size of either 1440x1080 or 1920x1080 and a frame rate of 25 or 29.97 frames per second. Audio recorded on AVCHD camcorders is generally at a rate of 48kHz. If your camera shoots in a format that does not comply with one of these setups then it is most likely not supported by the application and is not guaranteed to work correctly.
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    AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1440x1080i60
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    Why don't my clips appear when I open the Log and Transfer window?
    Make sure your camcorder records AVCHD in a format supported by FCE4. It should be connected to one of your computer's USB ports (never connect it to an external hard drive or other external device such as your keyboard or a USB hub), powered on, and set to video playback mode.
    If the camcorder +does not+ mount on your Desktop your USB port or cable may be malfunctioning. Try plugging it in to another port or using a different USB cable to see if it makes a difference.
    If the camcorder does mount on your Desktop but the clips do not appear in the Log and Transfer window you will need to point the program to the directory that contains your media.
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    I would like to keep a working backup of my original clips so that I can delete them off the camcorder's internal memory. How should I do this?
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    Another often preferable approach is to copy over the root directory in which your clips are stored (usually named "PRIVATE" or "AVCHD") from the camcorder to your computer or an external drive. As long as you maintain the original file structure, you will be able to ingest your clips again at a later date using the "Add Folder" process detailed above to navigate to their new location.
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    I am experiencing a problem that is not covered in this tip or the solutions here do not work.
    The best thing to do at this point would be to trash your preferences and start a new topic in the [FCE Forum|http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=936&start=0] with a detailed description of your problem. Check out the user tip on [Basic Troubleshooting in Final Cut Express|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2662419] for more information.
    This is the 1st version of this tip. It was submitted on December 03, 2010 by skalicki`.
    Do you want to provide feedback on this User Contributed Tip or contribute your own? If you have achieved Level 2 status, visit the User Tips Library Contributions forum for more information.

    Disclaimer: Apple does not necessarily endorse any suggestions, solutions, or third-party software products that may be mentioned in the topic below. Apple encourages you to first seek a solution at Apple Support. The following links are provided as is, with no guarantee of the effectiveness or reliability of the information. Apple does not guarantee that these links will be maintained or functional at any given time. Use the information below at your own discretion.
    Working with AVCHD: Log and Transfer FAQs
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    AVCHD support is available only on Intel-based Macintosh computers.
    AVCHD camcorders typically connect to computers via USB 2.0, not FireWire.
    DVD-based AVCHD camcorders are not supported in Mac OS X 10.4 or earlier.
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    AVCHD footage is not ingested natively but is transcoded to the Apple Intermediate Codec.
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    AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1440x1080i60
    AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1920x1080i50
    AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1920x1080i60
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    Why don't my clips appear when I open the Log and Transfer window?
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    I would like to keep a working backup of my original clips so that I can delete them off the camcorder's internal memory. How should I do this?
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    I am experiencing a problem that is not covered in this tip or the solutions here do not work.
    The best thing to do at this point would be to trash your preferences and start a new topic in the [FCE Forum|http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=936&start=0] with a detailed description of your problem. Check out the user tip on [Basic Troubleshooting in Final Cut Express|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2662419] for more information.
    This is the 1st version of this tip. It was submitted on December 03, 2010 by skalicki`.
    Do you want to provide feedback on this User Contributed Tip or contribute your own? If you have achieved Level 2 status, visit the User Tips Library Contributions forum for more information.

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