.avi files and 'ms' format audio

Hi Folks,
I have QuickTime 7 Pro and a .avi file I was sent (actually downloaded on FTP). I also have a host of other video players (MPlayer OS X 2, VLC, RealPlayer 10) All of them can play the .avi file but I get no audio. If I choose "Show movie properties" in QuickTime it lists the audio as 'ms' format. Is there any way to get QuickTime, or any other video player, to play the sound on this file?
Hope someone can help me with this.
Cheers,
Grant
G4 Dual 1.25Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.8)

any suggestions for the same problem but for OS X (10.3.9)?
You'll have to find out what codec was used for the movies you want to view to determine what you need. Note that not all codecs for the various .avi movies are available for QuickTime.
If you want to try "hit and miss", you can try the codecs at http://www.divx.com/ and http://www.3ivx.com/ and see if one of them will work for you. If you just want to play the movie any way you can, you can also give this player a try:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
Regards.

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