AVI vs DV file format

I got great assitance last time, so I'll try another question.
What is the difference between capturing DV footage to a PC which would be an AVI file, and capturing to a Mac in FCP which would be a QT file.
Is there any compression, or are these completely uncompressed files? And, if there is compression, how much of a difference?
Also, if I export out as a DV stream or AVI how much difference between these two formats?
I've tried to googling, but the language in the information I am finding is starting to get a little confusing, and I am not sure I am finding the right information.
Thanks!

sorry, but i don't understand why the video needs to go through the Windows Media Encoder? shouldn't a university be hosting their streaming video in something standard like MPEG-4?
there would be a distinct advantage to using Compressor to encode directly from the FCP timeline to a streaming MPEG-4 preset. FCP tells Compressor where all of your edits are and creates keyframes at the edits so there is no pixelation across edits. Windows Media Encoder won't have this advantage.
you should probably do an MPEG-4 encoding and compare the subjective "quality" with the output of the Windows Media Encoder, given the fact that they're all starting with original DV sources. my bets would be on the fact that the tight coupling of FCP/Compressor would win in most cases. i've seen a lot of WMV on the web and the quality is really poor, quite frankly.
there's all that and the fact that more people on more different platforms would be able to watch it!
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