Awful, overexposed CS3 thumbnails

To view my Nikon D3 files, I had to upgrade from CS2 to CS3. First they suggested I cownload the full featured trial version so I could start editing them while waiting for my DVD to arrive. I found that only one image could be more than a thumbnail. After trying of r long enough to figure what was wrong, I called tech help and after trying all kind of things, they concluded that that was all you could do and it wasn't so complete after all. So that was a total waste of time.
When the disk arrived, and was installed, the trial kept opening so then I had to go through the uninstall procedure. When I finally got the program working with bridge, I had the most unpleasant surprise that the tif thumbnails looked grossly overexposed. Changing to hi-quality in the preferences made no difference. When open if CS3 they look OK but I decide which images to send to publishers or for my website in the bridge so this has made it useless.
In CS2 the thumbnails look just like a small version of the opened file.
Not only that but in CS2, I had keywords, such as
Falconiformes: (HAWKS,EAGLES,EAGLES,VULTURES)
When I started to apply the name to some new eagle shots, it didn't remain checked and then I found that in "other keywords" it had split the keyword into 4 new checked ones at the comma. After experimenting, I found that using "&" instead of "," was acceptable. but to get thousands of previously keyed images with commas to new acceptable ones took hours over a couple of days.
And now my older Kodak PCD files have no thumbnails.
Why couldn't they just leave what worked alone. Now I am stuck as I can't review my D3 files systematically, but have these thumbanils that are useless for editing.
Why couldn't they leave well enough alone

HP monitor 2465 bought in November. Then I bought the 512 7600 AGP card at the end of December. I think I got the latest drivers.
I am now experiencing some of the problems others have described. Just before I got the D3 camera, I was catching up on editing about 15,000 images taken on a SW US trip last spring. I was nearing the finish of the bird folders, making tiffs of maybe a hundred per day, and nearing the finish of that aspect with CS2.
Now that I decided to try to get back to where I left off, even despite the thumbnails problem. I opened the Western Tanager folder with 95 images. In bridge, I selected about 4 in ZCR and chose 2 to open.
Then CS3 seemed to be taking forever to open. I tried to go back to bridge and after a long time it started reappearing, and I did find that at the lower left, it still hadn't finished loading, so I just started waiting. I wish I had put my stop watch on at the beginning, but at least a half hour later it has gotten to 99%, and is still remaining there.
All my progress and work schedule had ground to a halt for the week, and now I see what to expect. I don't think I can increase RAM beyond the 1G in this older computer. I wasn't prepared to buy a new one. Without CS3 I can't open my D3 files in bridge (the sole reason I bought it) With it I can't do any work.
This is beyond ridiculous. They should have just made the ACR plug in work with CS2. This program is absolutely useless to me and now I am stuck.
10 minutes later, I just went back to bridge and instead of 99% it it has dropped to 84%.

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