Aysnc-syn bridge

Hi ! I have seen this question in previous threads........and their responses. Many of them are responded with there wont exist a situation like asyn-sync bridge. And also they suggested to refer the blog
/people/arpit.seth/blog/2005/06/27/rfc-scenario-using-bpm--starter-kit
Inspite of all the above if you are in a fix to be choosen one out of these 3 which option is the better bet ??
a) send setp, synch receiver,asyn send,receiver step
b) Receiver steps,Async send,Asyn receive,Send step
c) receiver step,async send,Receiver step
thanks
kumar

Hi Kumar,
There is nothing like asyn-sync bridge..
What is present is synch-asynch bridge..
ie we have a synchronous sender and a asynchronous receiver.
Then we need to use synch-asynch bridge in BPM.
As mentioned by others...BPM should start with a Receive Step and end with a Send Step.
<i>Your B option is the perfect one...</i>
Cheers,
Sumit

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