B&W G3 + Radeon 7000 + Mac OS 8.6 = no dice?

Greetings. I recently acquired a "new to me" B&W G3 (rev 2 motherboard). It came equipped with a Radeon 7000 and Mac OS X. I have since acquired a Rage 128, a new hard drive, and installed Mac OS 8.6 on it. I now have a Radeon 7000 lying around and would like to use it to set up an extra monitor.
I have tried plugging it into the next available PCI slot and hooking up my 1680x1050 resolution LCD monitor. No dice.
My theory is that this set up should work if I had the correct drivers for the card (and the card supports that resolution). Unfortunately, a search for "Radeon 7000" and "Mac OS 8" doesn't yield the desired results.
There are drivers for OS 9 and I even saw a site that had drivers for System 7.6(!). There are so many drivers my mind has been boggled. Not only that, ATI dumps between 7-10 extensions in my System Folder depending on the installer so finding the correct combination of ATI drivers (and versions) is an exercise in madness.
Does anybody know which ATI drivers (and version numbers) will work with this (or a similar) set up?
I'd prefer not to upgrade to Mac OS 9 if at all possible (my apps work just great in 8...plus, I don't have that disk anyway!)
Thanks!
Jason

Glad to help, try this is well:
In extensions manager, turn off "ATI graphics accelerator" that was the olde driver, from before you put in the 2002 update, don't need that.
Put the card back in the fast slot, it works fine there but press the CUDA button on the motherboard (while it is off) and reset the PRAM
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86760
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379
You might have to boot a couple of times after doing this for it to work properly. But the 7000 will work fine in the correct slot. Its the ideal card for a B&W as it is the fastest card that has acceleration from OS 8.6 to 10.4.11
Once you reset the PRAM and CUDA it will work fine, give it another shot.

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