B2B or A2A?

Hi Experts,
My scenerio comprises of three things. SAP ecc 6.0, PI 7.0 and SAP POS Triversity. Can you tell me is this a B2B or a A2A scenerio. POS is a Point of sale system, with no SAP ECC features or XI features, and has no relation with Netweaver.
Experts,
Comments Pls
Arnab

B2B or A2A is not based on what system is involved in your scenario but rather on the landscape.
In case you are integrating systems within your own landscape then it is a A2A process and if you are communicating to an external Customer's or Vendor's application or landscape it becomes a B2B scenario.

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Think, Company A is dealing only with Legacy Systems or Java Based applications, but Company B cannot directly understand COmpany A's format. So the Integration Broker like XI will come into picture. While integrating Company A should know how feasible it can communicate with Company B.. More in technical, is thru WebServices Industry Standard Adapters(Seeburger EDI)/(SOAP)/Java Applications(JavaProxy)/.net Applications etc..
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/2d/506e42f50b0d53e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
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/people/suraj.sr/blog/2006/01/05/multiple-inbound-interfaces-within-a-service
/people/suraj.sr/blog/2006/01/05/multiple-inbound-interfaces-within-a-service
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