B8850 double profile problems

When trying to print application managed colors out of photoshop CS4 on windows (all) My colors are way off. It is a problem of double profiling. Both the printer and the application try to manage the color. I set up everything the wa it is supposed to be but no success. I have heard of others having this problem.
The question is, how do I get around this so I can let photoshop handle the color management.

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Faux Double Profiling

I have been having all the symptoms of double profiling contrasty, magenta prints when printing to my HP B9180 from Lightroom 1.4.1. (This also happened with LR 1.1 and 1.3, though I do not remember having problems with LR 1.2.) From my research about double profiling, especially with LR, I know that I am not doing anything obviously wrong and am quite frustrated. Any help or insights would be appreciated.
First the details. I am running Windows XP SP2 and calibrate my screen a Philips 109b CRT and, recently, an HP w2207h LCD with the Spyder. I have absolutely no problem getting prints to match the screen when printing to my second printer, an Epson 1280, from either LR or Photoshop CS3. Also I have had no problems getting a good match when printing to the 9180 from PS. The only troublesome combination is LR and the 9180. From this forum I know that other people have mentioned similar problems, often without satisfactory resolutions.
I know I am not double profiling. To be specific, I use the driver provided by InkJetArt for use with their paper and the B9180 or I use HPs Advanced Photo Paper Glossy with the appropriate HP driver. I select them in LR under Color Management, Profile on the Print Job panel. On the printer driver under color management I select Application Managed Colors.
I have been experimenting for many months and have found that sometimes the print module from LR will produce wonderful prints. Then the next day, with identical settings, the contrasty, magenta effect appears. Once this double profiling effect apparently started when I simply changed the default printer in Control PanelPrinters and Faxes from the 9180 to a Samsung laser printer. This makes no sense.
I have been taking a very scientific approach to this problem, trying to keep all variables except one constant. Yet shifts in color apparently occur for no apparent reason. I have performed closed loop calibrations but this does not have any effect. And I have reinstalled the printer more than once.
One person from the B9180 forum mentioned that sometimes it appears that the printer driver seems to lose its settings. Any tips what to try next?

>Yes Eric did a great job of explaining all this and it appears that he also had input in correcting this problem.
Well Adobe says the update addresses these issues and I see nothing about printing being affected:
>Beyond the following list of bug fixes and existing camera support for the D3X and Olympus E-30 there is also preliminary support for the Epson R-D1x raw format.
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16-bit only flies in Leopard, with a supported print driver, otherwise, its converted on the fly to 8-bit. The same is true for CS4 and LR2.

Roaming profile problem?

I'm not sure it's a roaming profile problem or not, but I need help to fix it.
we use MetaFrame citrix to connect a remote computer running a medical program. Every computer has Citrix online plug-in.
If user uses computer user always use, everything will be fine.
It will be failed login Citrix if user need to login to anther computer to load the medical program. uninstall and re-install Citrix online plug-in will fix it. There's lots computers and users, I can't fix it by this way, need to find
out why.
Windows 2008 R2 + windows 7 pro & 8.1 pro.
Thanks for any suggestion,
ITdragon

seems no related to profile...
you can recreate a user account to test.
just a thoght...
create a script to uninstall this application. set it as logon script via gpo. when all uninstall, reinstall it...
Best,
Howtodo

Color profile problem/question.

These two exports of the same file were taken on my spouse's D300s, and are good examples of a profile problem I cannot seem to solve. This is the identical problem I also experience on the Nikon D700 and D3. The following was exported with the "Camera Standard" profile, and notice the yellow sun reflection on the door panels:
The following was exported with a xrite generated lightroom profile. Notice the better overall contrast, but also the horrendous unnatural yellow on the same door:
This difference causes all sorts of distortion in natural animal hair that contains any red-orange. I use these doors because they are such a stark example. Any attempts to correct with the WB will usually result in too much blue elsewhere. Also I have created many test profiles under many light conditions (both manually and from LR), and they all cause this problem in all three cameras. This is not a matter of one bad cameral, or one erroneously created profile.
I have two questions: Does this example show up well enough to see what I am talking about? If so, can anyone speculate as to the problem or solution? Even guesses would be appreciated since I am out of my own, and not expert in this sort of thing. Thanks!

George, thank you for this information. I have a couple of things for you to try and another question. The ColorChecker Passport color patches are small, so I would suggest trying to reshoot a calibration image with the ColorChecker Passport in the center and filling at least 1/3 of the picture width. In the image you provided the ColorChecker Passport is about 1/8 the image width and far left of center. I know, I know, it should not matter, but give it a try. This is what I'm doing to create camera profiles for all three of my camera bodies (Canon 300D, 600D, 5D MKII), and I have not had a single problem with "color matching" using this procedure AND what I will describe next.
Concerning white balance procedure you say:
Using the grey card of the same product placed just outside the subject crop.
I assume you are referring to the large 60% reflectance white balance card on one side of the ColorChecker Passport, but you do not mention how you set white balance. I suggest using the LR white balance eyedropper tool with the smaller 80% reflectance gray scale patch on the ColorChecker Classic target side. This is the 2nd patch from the left bottom in your picture right next to the brightest 90% white patch. Two reasons for doing this! A higher reflectance patch reduces the influence of camera noise in the image with the LR 5 x 5 pixels eyedropper tool. Here's a LR forum post with a heated discussion on these issues (or lack thereof): http://forums.adobe.com/thread/854734?tstart=60 The second purely empirical reason is the "Classic" target side provides me with more accurate white balance than using the larger 60% card. Perhaps this is a defect with my ColorChecker Passport target, but I don't know.
When setting white balance with the LR eyedropper tool I suggest taking at least five (5) samples of the 80% patch. I use the center, TL, TR, BR and BL corner areas of the patch. Do not use any reading that has a large variation from the others. Please remember that the eyedropper tool is sampling a very small 5 x 5 (25 pixels) area, and image noise or a target paint defect can give you a bogus reading. Write down the temp and tint for each of the five (5) readings, add them, and divide by five to get the "average" white balance temp and tint. Enter the temp and tint values manually into the white balance tool. I create a user preset for each profile which contains only the ColorChecker created camera profile and manually adjusted white balance settings.
I would also suggest you check the readings of all six (6) grayscale patches for neutrality (R=G=B) using your new camera profile and white balance settings. I have found in some cases using the 65% reflectance patch (3rd patch in) provides the most neutral “overall” white balance setting for the six (6) patches. This is despite the fact it contains more camera noise than the 80% patch next to it. Again, this observation is purely empirical – I am not writing a scientific thesis! It works for me and hopefully it will get you closer to what you want.
One thing I am going to do tomorrow is borrow a friends color checker to rule out the possibility mine is defective. It doesn't look defective, but the problem is so consistent.
This is a very good idea! Having worked in a manufacturing environment for over 45 years, trust me when I tell you defective product from even the largest company ends up in the consumer’s hands. Please let us know what you find.

Constant IP Profile Problems

Good Morning Everyone,
I seem to have constant IP Profile problems where I have to keep contacting the Broadband Helpdesk to get the IP Reset every few weeks. It seems to do it if the weather is bad (like over the past couple of days) or if i watch videos streamed from YouTube. I told the operator this the last time i called, but it was just dismissed and they just reset the profile.
Last night everything seemed so slow, so i ran a speedtest and yep the profile has dropped again and has been set to 2mbps. I connect at 8mbps and normally my download speed is around the 7.30mbps mark. What could be causing this?
Many Thanks, Steve
Here's my first lot of settings as requested;
BT Speedtest Results (Current - Normal Socket)
Download speed achieved during the test was - 2.1 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.4 Mbps-2 Mbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :8.13 Mbps(DOWN-STREAM), 0.45 Mbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 2 Mbps
Quiet Line Test (Current - Normal Socket)
Call break up when first connected, slight crackling and hissing
Connection Plate
Master Plate with Test Socket, but no seperate microfibre socket.
Home Hub Version
BT Home Hub v2 with Broadband Telephone
ADSL Stats (Current - Normal Socket)
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 0:39:41
Downstream
8,128 Kbps
Upstream
448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type
Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up)
5.9 dB / 22.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
21.0 dB / 12.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
19.8 dBm / 11.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
22
Loss of Signal (Local)
2
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
0 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
0 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
nil / 0
Error Seconds (Local)
2

BT Speedtest Results (Test Socket)
Download speedachieved during the test was - 2.05 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.4 Mbps-2 Mbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :8.13 Mbps(DOWN-STREAM), 0.45 Mbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 2 Mbps
Quiet Line Test (Test Socket)
Very slight crackling and hissing
ADSL Stats (Test Socket)
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 0:15:12
Downstream
8,128 Kbps
Upstream
448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type
Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up)
6.0 dB / 22.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
21.0 dB / 12.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
19.8 dBm / 12.0 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
34
Loss of Signal (Local)
3
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
0 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
0 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
nil / 0
Error Seconds (Local)
3

Double submission problem in J2EE application under Weblogic 8.1 SP2 server

Hi,
We are facing double submission problem in our J2EE application which is running under Weblogic 8.1 SP2 and for the same we already implemented or added the below preventive solutions.
1. We disable the SUBMIT button once the user clicks it.
2. We preventated pressing 'F5' button and clicking 'Refresh' button in the browser.
3. Also we tried to prevent by declaring the idempotent is 'true' under weblogic-ejb-jar.xml as below.
<stateless-bean-methods-are-idempotent>true</stateless-bean-methods-are-idempotent>
So please somebody help us on this issue like how to prevent in some other way.
Regards,
Dinesh.

I have no idea why you would think changing your EJB configuration would have anything to do with preventing double submission at your servlet layer.
One technique I've seen for preventing double submission was first used in the Struts framework several years ago. When a page is "prepared" for display, a token value is created and stored in the session. The page is displayed with a hidden field containing that value. When the page is submitted, the value of the hidden field is compared with the value stored in the session. If they're not equal, the submission is ignored.

Lightroom 3.6 OSX 10.7.2 - Printing Issue with IPF6350 / 8300 -Double Profiling?

I have just been making my first prints after getting back from Antarctica and have encountered a rather annoying issue I cannot seem to resolve.
From memory, I have not made any prints before in LR3.6 (If memory serves, this update came out a few days before I left) - but have made a great many in LR 3.5 and previous without issue.
Printing a shot of a large iceberg my blues are completely blocked up and an absolute mess when printing from LR (almost as if its double profiling). Soft proofing the image in PS shows no 'blocked up' blue at all.
The same image prints just fine from PS with the Canon plug in using the same custom made profile.
Has something changes in LR3.6 I am not aware of?
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

I have answered you in http://canonipf.wikispaces.com/message/view/FAQ/45996312
Your previous printing with LR 3.5, was it also in 10.7.2?

Color profile problem after installing CS4

OK.
First, let me post these side-by-side comparisons:
As you can see in Image 1 (the "before," left-side photo in each comparison), the colors and overall appearance are distorted. I've read things about gamma but it's all confusing to me. This is surely a color profile problem, right? The transition among pixels that involve colors of yellow and gray is rocky, grainy, and the flat out color is just wrong. Now this color problem affects pictures when opened in both Photoshop 7.0 and the standard Windows Photo Viewer. Meaning, whenever I open pictures in both PS 7.0 and Windows Photo Viewer (my default viewer), this color problem totally messes up certain photos and really damages my ability to edit. I'm an avid photo editor and it's imperative I have proper color display so that I can accurately edit. Keep in mind that certain pictures do not take on this error. When a photo is generally brighter, the distortion is basically invisible. It's photos that are dark or have dark portions in them that display the distortion.
*Note: I took these before-and-after pictures with my camera, because screencapping would not work, since you all don't have the same color profile issue on your computer. That's the only way I can show you!
HOWEVER, when I open photos in another standard Windows application, "Microsoft Office Picture Manager," the color problem is magically erradicated altogether. It shows photos as I've been seeing them all along, until I installed CS4 about two weeks ago. Before installing CS4, everything was fine and I had been using Photoshop 7 for years and have never had a problem. I'm guessing CS4 messed something up. It had to have. Just FYI, I uninstalled CS4, hoping it would reverse the problem. But still, the color issue persists in PS 7 and in my regular Windows Photo Viewer.
Since images display their true form in Windows Office Picture Manager, I don't think I need to calibrate my screen. Or do I? I've read things about it, and to some people, it's not necessary. Right? Okay. I really hope someone can give some advice! Thank you!
P.S. Here's the original photo. On my screen, it looks distorted when opened in photoshop or opened w/the viewer. However, here on Firefox, it's fine.

You should try to familiarize yourself with the concepts of color management.
It's kind of too in-depth a subject to walk you through from a cold start here... There are a lot of good resources out there to help you get started. For example, in just a few seconds Google turned up this:
http://www.adobepress.com/articles/article.asp?p=1315593
The one thing to remember is this: There is NO quick solution, easy set of defaults, or direct answer to making your setup do what you want without your having to understand color management.
People may tell you to calibrate your monitors, or use a particular color profile as a default, or whatever, and they may have good, solid reasons for telling you those things, but if you don't attempt to get your mind around color management it will always seem as though something isn't working right, or is simply magic, which will be frustrating to you.
Here are some basic questions to ponder:
What image color profile is your image carrying?
Is your monitor a wide-gamut display and do you have a color profile set up for it? What kind of monitor is it?
What version of Windows are you running?
Do you know the difference between a color-managed app and one that is not color-managed?
Which of the apps you're using/showing above are color-managed?
What are your settings in Edit - Color Settings?
Take some time and do some research, get your head around the concepts, and it will all make more sense I promise you.
-Noel

How to solve the Embed Color Profile problem...

Hi Everyone,
This vijay from Chennai. I have one doubt for rectify the Embed color Profile problem, that's is how can i judges whether the file had Embed Color Profile or not. anyone solve this problem.
Thanks in Advance.
-yajiv

I used another profiles name, because I dont have the old one installed anymore, Youll have to be exact about the letters though.
And from a prepress-standpoint Id like to point out that removing the profile as opposed to »Convert to Profile« seems a peculiar practice, though of course Your reasons for doing so may be valid indeed.
You could try:
var myDocument = app.activeDocument;
if (myDocument.colorProfileName == "U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2") {
// =======================================================
var idassignProfile = stringIDToTypeID( "assignProfile" );
var desc2 = new ActionDescriptor();
var idnull = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
var ref1 = new ActionReference();
var idDcmn = charIDToTypeID( "Dcmn" );
var idOrdn = charIDToTypeID( "Ordn" );
var idTrgt = charIDToTypeID( "Trgt" );
ref1.putEnumerated( idDcmn, idOrdn, idTrgt );
desc2.putReference( idnull, ref1 );
var idmanage = stringIDToTypeID( "manage" );
desc2.putBoolean( idmanage, false );
executeAction( idassignProfile, desc2, DialogModes.NO );
else {

Print double profiling issue returned with 2.3RC

So Canon corrects there print drivers so that double profiling does not happen with LR2.2 and PSCS4 on Leopard, after all the fault was placed on the printer manufacture/drivers by Adobe and Apple.
So what happens LR2.3RC is released and causes the printer drivers to again default to double profiling. Forcing ColorSync again instead of No Correction.
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG HERE?
Is this a f---ing game or what?
Are the Adobe programmers just that printer/CM challenged?
If you can't get any of this right, why not just do like ID and IL and lets us make our own choices in the printer driver. We don't need printing from PS and LR "IDIOT PROOFED" when choosing Application Manages Color.
You have really shown with the release of LR2.3RC who the real idiots are when it comes to printing with Application Manages Color.

I agree with DYP.
One spends over 600 dollars for a program that lets you control everything and then tries to make it idiot proof. TOO F****** bad if an idiot spends his money then whines the program is too difficult. Suck it up, grow up, read the manual, cruze the internet, take seminars, buy training DVDS. Good grief ! ! !
Now . . I fee better ;-) grin.
ADOBE, are you listening ? ? ? Yea actions, plugins etc are great. Let the user decide on when and if to purchase the crutches.
I come from the "wet" darkroom. I learned the craft and art of the wet darkroom. I am now learning the digital darkroom. An old dog can learn new tricks . . . 71st birthday March 30 this year.
Party on dude,
have fun,
make pictures,
play,
learn.
Yours,
Tom
http://www.tom-elliott-photography.com/special.htm

Full screen colour profile problem

I just posted this as feedback to Apple and was curious to see if anyone was having the same problem:
I have a dual monitor setup: One Eizo CG222W and one Eizo CG210. The 222W is my primary display (menu bar on this one). Both monitors are calibrated and profiled with a Spyder3 and ColorEyes Display Pro. I have the profiles loaded on both displays. It is worth noting that both (particularly the 222W) are wide gamut, so you may well not see this happening if you are looking at an Apple Cinema display (no offence, but you're just not going to see this so pronounced on an Apple display). To put it into perspective, I have just bought the CG222W and was not noticing any issues with the CG210 because its gamut is narrower (but still wider than a cinema display).
So, if I view an image within Aperture (not full screen), then it looks normal, but when I hit full screen and look at the same image (on the same display), it is noticeably over-saturated. As a check I also opened the same image in Photoshop (on the same display) and it looks exactly the same as when viewed in the normal (non full screen) view of Aperture.
It is clear that there is a colour profile problem with Aperture. It appears that when full screen mode is selected, a different profile is loaded for the display, or a different working space (if Aperture provides such functionality). I won't be doing any image adjustments in full screen mode until this has been corrected.

There is well documented issue with this problem. The fix is to set your default monitor to whichever monitor you are using to view Aperture in full screen, using color sync utility.
The reason you don't have this problem in PS is because it has its own color management within the software.
Hope this helps,
Cheers

Temp Profile Problem. Windows 7, Domain

I have about 50 machines on domain with Windows 7 32bit OS. We are having a problem with windows not grabbing our default profile for three of our users and instead giving them a Temp Profile every time they log into the domain. One is a normal
user account and two are admin. All other users can log onto any computer at anytime and they do not get the temp profile. The three accounts get the temp profile no matter which computer on the domain they choose to log in to. Any ideas?

Creating a default local profile for Windows 7
Create a new standard local user account (named STDPROFILE), add this account to the local Administrators group on the PC.
Reboot, then log onto the PC using the local user account from previous Step.
Set up profile settings as desired; desktop icons, mapped printers, FRVIS physical/logical, IE home page, etc..
Reboot when finished, log back onto PC with the local “Administrator” account.
Double-click “Computer”, then click organize, folder and search options. On the view tab, make sure “show hidden files, folders and drives” is selected; also uncheck “Hide protected Operating System Files”. Click OK
Under C:/Users, rename the hidden “Default” user folder (NOT “Default User”)
Make copy of the profile (STDPROFILE) customized in Step 2, rename the folder “Default”.
Right click the folder—under properties, then security tab—add “Everyone” permissions with Full Control (include all folders and subfolders).
Run regedit.exe
Click on HKEY-LOCAL-MACHINE. Under File, select “Load Hive”
Browse to the “C:/Users/Default” folder, click on ntuser.dat (make sure hidden and system files are displayed). Name the key TEMPLATE_ACCOUNT.
Right click on the TEMPLATE_ACCOUNT key, select Export, save the .reg file to the desktop.
Open the .reg file with Notepad, and under “Edit—replace..” put the user name STDPROFILE in the “Find what” field, to be replace with the string %USERNAME% -- choose “Replace All” then save the .reg file. Double click it to re import the changes.
Re-open regedit.exe
Under TEMPLATE_ACCOUNT – Control Panel – desktop, change “Wallpaper” path to the wallpaper of your choice (a local OR network path will work here). Check other settings and modify any other keys.
If RealPlayer is installed to the image—click on TEMPLATE_ACCOUNT—SOFTWARE—Realnetworks. Delete the entire RealNetworks Key. This key will recreate.
When done, click on TEMPLATE_ACCOUNT. Then click File, select “unload hive”. This will save the changes you made.

AVL Double click Problem

Dear Experts,
I hv created an ALV report. when in double click on the record it take me to the required tcode (FB03).
But the problem is ,it always display last record of internal table if I clicked on first record,
Can any one suggest me something.
Regards,
Maverick

Thanks for ur reply.
I m using normal ALV. go through the following
form display_all_item_alv.
w_repid = sy-repid.
perform update_catalog.
CALL FUNCTION 'REUSE_ALV_GRID_DISPLAY'
EXPORTING
   I_CALLBACK_PROGRAM                = w_repid
   I_CALLBACK_USER_COMMAND           = 'USER_COMMAND'
*   I_CALLBACK_TOP_OF_PAGE            = 'TOP-OF-PAGE'
   IT_FIELDCAT                       = I_FCAT[]
   I_SAVE                             = 'X'
* IMPORTING
*   E_EXIT_CAUSED_BY_CALLER           =
*   ES_EXIT_CAUSED_BY_USER            =
TABLES
    T_OUTTAB                          = i_faglflexa_all
* EXCEPTIONS
*   PROGRAM_ERROR                     = 1
*   OTHERS                            = 2
IF SY-SUBRC <> 0.
* MESSAGE ID SY-MSGID TYPE SY-MSGTY NUMBER SY-MSGNO
*         WITH SY-MSGV1 SY-MSGV2 SY-MSGV3 SY-MSGV4.
ENDIF.
endform.
*       FORM USER_COMMAND                                          *
*       --> R_UCOMM                                                *
*       --> RS_SELFIELD                                            *
form user_command using r_ucomm like sy-ucomm
                  rs_selfield TYPE slis_selfield.
w_gjahr = p_gjahr.
case r_ucomm.
     when '&IC1'.
        if r_open = 'X'.
          set parameter id 'BLN' field i_faglflexa_open-belnr.
        elseif r_clear = 'X'.
          set parameter id 'BLN' field i_faglflexa_clear-belnr.
        else.
          set parameter id 'BLN' field i_faglflexa_clear-belnr.
        endif.
      set parameter id 'BUK' field p_bukrs.
      set parameter id 'GJR' field w_gjahr.   "i_faglflexa_clear-gjahr.
      call transaction 'FB03' and skip first screen.
endcase.
endform.                    "user_command
Regards,
Maverick

Double profiling printing from in InDesign CS5 to an Epson 7800

I had to print a collage of 28 images on one page. In the InDesign print dialogue where you choose the colour management in the options field in colour handling it says let InDesign determine Colours which is unachangeable, certainly on my machine. Under that it suggests you pick the printer profile that you wish to use. When I do this the print is all washed out and pink. I'm aware of the conflict warnings if you try and set stuff in the Mac print dialogue. However trying this I get this error message once I come out of the Mac dialogue and press print in the InDesign dialogue: "Printing error: The Adobe Print Engine has failed to uotput your data due to an unknown problem." Two things: my friend doesn't get this error message and can print away. I finally solved my print problem by choosing Adobe 1998 as my printer profile in InDesigns colour management dialogue!.
My Mac is on 10.5.8 and my friends is on 10.6.8 so there is that. I'm also aware that its possible to get lucky with some files using Adobe 98 as a print space because I used to do it all the time years ago before I ever knew about colour management so I'm not convinced I have nailed this and using Adobe 98 as the printer profile in InDesign just seems stupid. I printed a single image through Photoshop that forms part of the collage and it perfectly matched my colour managed workflow.
If anybody has any ideas i would be very grateful To hear them.
Regards. Patrick.

I wish I could help, but I just upgraded to CS5.5, and I'm also on Mac OS5.8. I've gone back to CS2 to print because, out of CS5.5 I get a poor b+w print. Adobe tech says my printer is old and suggested updating my printer driver, but I'm using a driver appropriate to my old HP OfficejetPro. My printer's been a workhorse, but they're so cheap, I may buy another printer. It makes no sense that CS5.5 should be so picky about printers.

Aperture and dual monitor ICC profile problem

I am using an Epson Stylus Pro 3800 and run Aperture 2.1 from a MBP with a Cinema Display 23". I calibrated both displays (the 23" and the MBP display) with my ancient but working ColorVision Spyder, using OptiCal 3.7. I calibrated for a gamma of 2.2. and native white point. I check the results with various test images.
Here is the problem: the calibration produces a perfectly calibrated display, but when I open Aperture some color change is taking place, as if Aperture pulls in a wrong profile for the display (which then also leads to wrong colors in the prints): sometimes the photo which I have printed out before in perfect quality displays with either a nasty yellow cast or with totally oversaturated colors. I have used ColorSync utility to make the 23" the default display and I have also tried to simply close the MBP to work only with the 23", and sometimes either of these this did the trick. Most of the times, however, I get these color casts or oversaturation of the photos which I had worked on for a while and printed earlier with perfection.
I ran Disk Utility to Repair Disk Permissions (many Epson-related permissions were wrong, for example "Library/Printers/EPSON/InkjetPrinter/Libraries/UtilityCore.framework/Versions/ A/Resources/Icon8007.png", should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rwxrwxr-x ) and reinstalled the latest Epson driver for 10.5 repeatedly.
Even more surprising, at times the color of the full screen image can be off at the same time the thumbnail looks perfect! How is this possible? It seems as if thumbnail and full image use different display profiles. In addition, if I export the Master and display it in Lightroom or CS2 it looks perfectly fine and prints as expected. (I use the appropriate "canned" ICC profiles for the printer-paper combination).
The most surprising happens, however, when I drag the image from the 23" to the MBP: when the image is about half-way between the two displays (that is, one part is displayed on the 23", the other on the MBP scree) it suddenly changes from off-color or oversaturated to the correct color on the 23". If I then move the image up to the 23" again, the wrong display colors appear again.
I am at a loss: I have spent a lot of money on the gorgeous screen, the great printer, and Aperture (which is a great program), but I cannot get Aperture to print reliably, or rather, I cannot get Aperture to use the right display profile to display the image correctly in a reliable way.
I have read kbeat's color management blog and many entries on this blog here, but I have not found a solution. I appreciate your help.

Kai,Simon,
This is the problem i have been having.Colour profiling is correct,prints are rubbish.I run a fuji frontier
as well as epson printers.Anything from aperture is not what you see on screen.I am running aperture2.1.
Today we are removing 2.1 and doing a reinstall of 1.1 but not upgrading to 2 to test run prints.I have been looking for answers to this for sometime.
Simon,the problems we are have are very similar to you clients,photoshop fine,aperture not.I also have 20"external apple monitor attached which is used as the colour correcting monitor ( as the imac screen is not that good for criticl work ) I will post my findings here.
Simon, if you wish to investigate further,e-mail me,i am in leeds
daisy ( not a happy printer )

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