Backing up Leopard DVD

I made a backup of the Leopard DVD to install several machines (yes I bought the family pack) and discovered that using a Macintosh to make the copy didn't copy the Bootcamp information.
Moral: if you make a backup (and you should) of the Leopard distribution medium you need to make TWO backups, one of which as far as I can tell needs to be made with a Windows machine so you'll have the Boot Camp 2.0 drivers.
There's probably a better way to go about it than the above but one way or another beware...

Jeff Geerling wrote:
2. Click on "Mac OS X Install DVD" (the bottom level).
That is your problem. Counterintuitive as it may seem, select the *DVD drive*, not the "Mac OS X Install DVD" volume below it.
Explanation: the "DVD/CD Master" image format creates bit-for-bit images of whatever you tell it to, but if you tell it to image a volume on a drive, that is all it will image. The Leopard DVD actually has quite a bit more on it than the "Mac OS X Install DVD" volume, including a Driver Descriptor Map, the Bootcamp code, the Apple Partition Map, and (aha!) "AppleDriverATAPI." You need all this to create a clone of the disk that will boot both PPC & Intel Macs. It is about 7.5 GB worth of stuff, only about 7.1 GB of which is in the visible partition (the volume "Mac OS X Install DVD").
BTW, steps 5 through 7 can be simplified: Just select the newly created .cdr file in the D.U. list, click the "Burn" icon & D.U. will helpfully eject the Leopard DVD disk & ask you to insert a DVD blank.
Also, in step 4, name the image whatever you like -- it is an image file & the name of the volume is in there along with everything else. I use something not likely to be confused with anything else, like "Leopard Retail Disk v 10.5.0."
Finally, if you don't know what blanks your drive will burn to, use the handy link at the bottom on the right of D.U.'s window when the DVD drive is selected. It will open System Profiler to the appropriate section, where you will probably find that "+R DL" is listed in the "Write Strategies:" section but "-R DL" is not.

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The 10.6 Snow Leopard DVD is back in the Apple online store

The 10.6 Snow Leopard DVD is back in the Apple online store. You cn now get it without having to phone the store.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard

Hello:
I would probably try E-bay. You could also call an Apple retail store and ask them.
Barry

How Come the iMac Can't Boot Snow Leopard DVDs Anymore Under Lion and ML?

Hi. I'm using ML as my main OS but I noticed when after installing Mountain Lion it doesn't recognize and just ejects the Snow Leopard DVD installers that came with my Mac (you could boot to it when the iMac had Snow Leopard). It doesn't see it as bootable anymore (it doesn't appear as bootable when you boot then press option nor does Startup in System Preferences see it as bootable. The DVD's are in good condition coz' it's not used that often):
Windows 7 Ultimate & Windows 8 Release Preview installer on a DVD-RW which is sees as blank (but it works find on a PC).
Only Snow Leopard that's in a USB (not sure how they made that but it was made for me by Apple repair center). I did back the SL DVDs years ago as .cdr (Master). I'm not sure if the .cdr images of the original SL DVDs can be burned into dual layer DVDs and work like the original (how do you go about that? Do you just burn .cdr like you would with .iso or .dmg?)
I think the hidden recovery partition starting with Lion is actually preventing DVDs from SL to lower versions from being recognized as bootable. Same with bootable Windows DVD-RW as Apple and the rest of the industry (I noticed netbooks now have recovery partitions too) switch to hidden partition and USB installers instead of medias like DVDs and CDs. I would guess if you could install Snow Leopard using an SL USB installer and complete erase the main hardisk along with the hidden recovery partition, install Snow Leopard it'll recognize Windows burned in DVD-RW again.
I can't install Bootcamp coz' it sees Windows 7 & 8 installers as blank drives, even Windows USB installers are not bootable (both USB and DVD-RW installers work fine on the PC). I'm thinking of disabling the iMac's Superdrive by moving in a folder or renaming its driver/extension IOSDVDStorageFamily.kext maybe tomorrow so hopefully when BootCamp sees that the iMac doesn't have an optical drive it'll show the Create USB Installer option (now it only show 2 options) so that it'll create the installers into the Flash drive.
I'm anxious of booting the USB Snow Leopard Installer and erasing the drive completely along with ML's recovery partition then installing SL in the hardisk because my Time Machine backup could get messed up. It might not restore the ones backedup by Lion and ML, although I could manually copy paste the documents but that'll defeat the main purpose of having a Time Machine backup.
Has anyone experienced this too with their Snow Leopard DVDs and Windows USB installers? Any solutions?
Thank you in advance.
God bless.

Zap the PRAM and Reset the SMC, then try again.

Upgrade HDD using Time Machine, but no Snow Leopard DVD, only Leopard installation DVD = kernel error on startup

Hi guys and girls.
Background
I have a MacBook Pro (March 2009 vintage). It was loaded with OS X Leopard on a 250GB HDD. When Snow Leopard was released, I upgraded using a DVD bought from Apple. In time, I added an external USB HDD to use for Time Machine Backups. I am now, however, knocking up against the capacity limit of the original hard drive.
Given the above, plus the fact that I no longer appear to have the Snow Leopard DVD (upgrade version I believe) - what is the recommended way to get back to my old setup (files, OS, settings etc), but with my new, larger HDD?
So far I have tried:
1. Formatting new HDD as Mac OS Extended (journaled), GUID partition having booted using my original (Leopard) installation DVD. I then selected the latest Time Machine (Snow Leopard) backup. After a couple of hours of restoring from that backup, the system restarted, but had kernel errors on bootup.
2. As above, but when formatting, chose to zero all data. This had the same end result.
Questions:
1. Are the kernel errors I'm experiencing due to the mismatch of booting off Leopard and restoring a Snow Leopard backup?
2. Would finding my (or even a) Snow Leopard upgrade DVD help? If so, how?
3. What am I doing wrong generally? I do like to try to understand these things!
4. As above, what is the recommended way of doing what I'm trying to do, given the limitations of release DVDs etc.
Many thanks

Simplest thing would be to buy the retail SL installation disc ($20 USD) and use it to do the migration. There might be an issue trying to use a SL TM version with Leopard.

IMac will not boot from Snow Leopard DVD or original Leopard disc!

Hey,
I am going mad! I am trying to update my iMac (with original Leopard installed) to Snow Leopard. Here is what I have tried:
Using the Snow Leopard DVD:
- A standard install: the disc ejects after about 15 minutes.
- Put another working DVD in and verified it in Disk Utility, all ok.
- Verified the internal hard drive in Disk Utility, all ok.
- Verfied the SL DVD, all ok.
- Decided to try a clean install, so backed up everything.
- Tried to boot from SL DVD by using the Utilities option, it ejects the disc at restart.
- Tried to force it to boot to the DVD by restarting and holding the C key, it ejects.
- Restart holding the Option key, it ejects.
- Restart holding the Ctrl, Alt and Option keys, ejects.
- Everytime it ejects and starts up normally.
- So I cleaned the disc, updated all the firmware, reset the NVRAM/PRAM via holding keys when restarting, and repaired disc permissions.
- Tried to force it to boot again, ejects.
- Tried to put the disc back in straight after it ejects with all the steps, still starts up normally.
- Changed the start up disc in System Preferences to the SL DVD, restart, it ejects.
By now I am readying the noose...
- Dug out the original Leopard installation CDs.
- Repeated all the forced boot restarts (C key, Option key, Ctrl, Alt, Option keys), same story.
- Repeated changing the start up disc in System Prefs, same story again.
- Call Apple Support, they told me to try everything I have tried and that the DVD drive is dodgy, well it works with everyhting else! Burning and reading! I really don't want to have to go to an Apple Store- it's miles away (a costly journey) and I just do not have the time for all of this.
RAWR! Does anyone know what to do? Please? S.O.S.?

Possible scenarios:
1: The 10.6.3 SL retail disk is bad, it happens.
2: Your not using the 10.6.3 SL retail disk but one from another machine which doesn't have the drivers for that machine.
3: Your optical drive is funky or some other hardware issues.
4: Your trying to install 10.6 onto a PowerPC based Mac, no can do.
5: Your not using a wired keyboard for boot key commands, have some other hardware conflicts.
Possible solutions.
1: Copy the SL 10.6.3 disk using Disk Utility to another DVD, the error checking may resolve the original disk's issue.
http://www.brokenhomeboy.co.uk/pierow/blog/2011/10/make-a-bootable-backup-snow-l eopard-install-disc/
2: Make a SL bootable USB
http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html
3: Call Apple for a new 10.6.3 disk (and make copies for backup before Apple discontinues selling it)
If your upgrading to 10.6 to get to 10.6.8 to upgrade to 10.7, be warned of this:
1: Your 10.5 software will not work in 10.7, no more Rosetta or PPC based code.
2: Your hardware will not qualify if it's a 32 bit Intel Core Duo, also you may experience slowdowns in performance over 10.6 (10.6 is the fastest OS X version for Intel Macs) in older Intel hardware (I suggest Early 2011 Mac's and later only for Lion)
3: Mountain Lion 10.8 is reportingly coming out this summer and will not run on a lot of older Intel based Mac's because of heftier graphics requirements.
4: 10.6 has the widest range of current avaialble software and drivers for third party hardware.
My advice, stick with 10.6.8 and stay there, buy a new Mountain Lion machine after this summer. Skip Lion completely.

OS X 10.5.6 Leopard DVD set

I have a 17" MacBook Pro model MA611LL/A. Can I use the OS X 10.5.6 Leopard DVD's from a 15" MacBook Pro. To re-install OS X 10.5.6 Leopard back into the MacBook Pro 17" lap top? Do not know which model computer the OS X 10.5.6 Leopard for 15" came from. It was listed on eBay for sale. Reason I want to buy it? I know have Snow Leopard, and it disabled my Firewire ports. Firewire ports work finw, when I use 10.4.8 Tiger as the startup drive. Am hoping Leopard, will not have the same disabling effect on the Firewire ports, that Snow Leopard has caused.

No, the disk set is machine specific.

How to separately backup the Boot Camp drivers partition from Leopard DVD?

I used Disk Utility and my only (and expensive) DVD+R DL disc to make a backup copy of my Leopard DVD, and it worked perfectly to install Leopard on my MacBook Pro.
However, that was before I learned that the Boot Camp drivers was now on a separate, PC-only partition on the DVD. So while my backup copy works great to install Leopard, I have no backup of the Boot Camp driver CD.
I tried several tricks, including booting into Windows Vista and using PowerISO to attempt to make an ISO image of the Boot Camp driver partition (shows up as 400 MB or so). However, the ISO image generated is a whopping 7.6 GB, same size as the full Leopard DVD. I then tried to take that back into the Mac OS side, but it was "unmountable". Toast 8 was able to make an image of the full DVD that (I'd presume, as did previous versions of Toast) would contain both partitions of an ISO-9660 volume, but when I mounted that disk image with Toast 8, I didn't get the two-mounted-volume like I'd normally expect to see.
I'd really like to know how to backup this volume - I demo this system regularly on my MacBook for clients, and I don't want to have to keep using my nice, pristine Leopard DVD when I have to do my weekly re-install. Any thoughts on how to get a simple extraction of the actual volume used for the Boot Camp drivers?
Thanks much for the time,
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my question! Although I think your steps will "work", per se (and I will try them out as soon as I can), I'm something of a purist in regards to my backups and so this method seems a little hackish as opposed to a process that actually images the volume in question (I'm also curious from a technical perspective, as the Boot Camp Assistant Beta used to allow for a dedicated MacintoshDrivers disc to be burned from it—I liked that method better, to be honest).
Thanks again! I'll keep checking back here for other comments, and will let you know how the method you suggested works out.
Best wishes,
MBJ

Go back from leopard to tiger

Please, I need support.
How can I do to go back from Leopard to Tiger?
Affter installing Leopard, I have continuosly Kernel panic when shut down my iBook.
Thanks in advanced

Michelle & Randy wrote:
I need to go back to Panther restore discs that came with my imac G5. There are too many important apps that just are not compatable with Leopard ie. Creative suite 2, Freehand MX. I can not print to high res PDF. Nothing happens and I do not have time to wait for all new programs to arrive. As a matter of fact I don't even think there is a leopard freehand verision. Will my restore CD's give me the option to erase and install. Yes I have several firewire drives with my system backed up.
I believe the proper way is to use your Leopard DVD to erase the HD. I would perform a full erase (include freespace), then boot, holding down the "C" key and install Panther. However, at this point you should seriously consider Tiger. I am presuming your PowerBook is a PPC (non-Intel) OS. The commercial Tiger CDs will install on your system. I upgraded my G5 from Panther, which it came with, to Tiger when it came out. Tiger is far superior to Panther.

DMG "no mountable file system" created when booting Leopard DVD

I was in the process of rebuilding my managers MacBook but I decided to make a full disc image before messing with any of her data. I plugged in a firewire hard drive and booted off my Leopard DVD. I selected the internal hard drive and clicked the new image button. Saved the image to the external. No errors were reported. Everything ran fine. Made a 50.3GB image file.
I them selected the internal HD and selected Restore and used our corp image file for and restored the internal drive with our image. I rebooted ran some updates joined it to the domain. Now it was ready for her user data. I went to mount the image of her data and it gives me "No mountable files system".
I have tried LOTS of things to get back at her data. I have used Data Rescue II, Disc Warrior, trying terminal commands listed in the following threads:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8036718
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1218394&tstart=0
When I do the command "hdiutil udifxmldet <yourbrokenimage>" it tells me no XML data is present. Data Rescue II shows me all the files in the image but when I try to restore them all the data is 0 bytes. When I scavenge the data files it gives me files with random names and some data but a 2 page PDF file is 100MB and there is no file large enough to be her entourage database. So somehow things are kind of smushed together.
Is there any way to recover this data properly? He last backup, which she is responsible for doing on her own, was 6 weeks ago. But i know I will never hear the end of it if I lose 6 weeks of her data.
Please help if possible. Her MacBook is still under AppleCare and the Leopard DVD is a licensed retail copy though the computer is actually runnning 10.4.11 I used the Leopard dvd to make the image. And yes I tried opening the image with a leopard machine.

If you failed to mount the image after initially creating the image (a bootable backup/clone would have been a better option); then, I surmise that her stuff is gone. Sorry, but I have nothing else to offer.

Going back to Leopard - OS X 10.5.8

All right, while my installation of Snow Leopard has been less fraught with misery than many of you who have been corresponding here, I'm not happy with how it's screwed up my CS4, TM and who knows what else that I haven't yet discovered. So my question is this: How do I go back to Leopard - OS X 10.5.8 where everything was running smoothly?

If you want to go back to Leopard, then you will need to do an erase and install (ignoring use of TM). I would first try the Leopard (i.e., 10.5) DVD. But, you may have to use the Snow Leopard (i.e., 10.6) DVD for the erase part. Let's assume the first for now. Startup from the DVD by holding down c when starting up. Next, when able, choose your language and stop. Then, using the menus at the top, select Disk Utility and erase you drive. Next, quit Disk Utility and continue the install. After the install is complete, insert your Leopard applications disk and install the programs you want. Now, you are done except for restoring you data, apps, and settings using whatever media are available to you.
In the other case, you will have to exit the installer after exiting Disk Utility. Next, you would startup with your Leopard DVD again by holding c down during startup. Now, after selecting your language again, just click install. After the installer is finished, install your applications as above.

BRAND NEW Mac Pro won't boot from Leopard DVD, kernel panics!

I just received my brand new Mac Pro today. It's a BTO machine with the upgrade to the NVIDIA 8800GT, a second optical drive and a Mac OS X Server license. The system has Mac OS X server installed on the default 320GB drive. I decided to use the server license as a virtual machine running in Leopard client. So, I installed 2 new 500GB Seagate 7200.11 (Retail) drives in the machine, zeroed them out in prep for installing Leopard client.
At this point, I pop in a freshly-purchased retail copy of the Leopard DVD and restart. When I try to boot from the DVD and install Leopard to one of the new Seagate drives, I get kernel panics - need to restart the machine. Also tried booting from the Mac OS X Server DVD and this too only caused kernel panics. The DVD's read perfectly from within Mac OS X Server and boot from hard disks is flawless.
I spent an hour on the phone with a level 2 tech at Apple - Tried swapping out the RAM and moving around the DIMMS to no avail. I am at a loss to what this could be. Seems to be a hardware issue and the tech thought it was likely a problem with one of the memory risers but couldn't send replacements. Anyone else with a similar issue?
This is my first Mac and it looks like this Mac Pro is going back for an exchange and I'll have to wait yet another 10-12 days for a replacement to arrive. Bummer.
Am I missing something simple here? Does this seem to be a hardware issue?
If anyone has any ideas before I ship this one back, please write!!!

New Mac Pros will not install the Leopard retail disc. They will only install the Leopard disc which shipped with them labeled Mac Pro. That has always been true. Macs can only boot the system that ships on DVD in the box that came with them, and newer retail releases. They can never boot from an older retail release than what shipped in the box.

Installing Mac OS X Leopard DVD on emac running 10.3.9

Hi I have purchased a Mac OS X Leopard DVD from the Apple store but every time I insert into my mac it pops back out? I have checked whether or not it is a DVD issue and it is not as all other DVD's (except for the Leopard, I've tried work!
It is the second DVD sent to me as same issue happened with first DVD - has anyone else had this problem?
I am approx 300 k from my nearest apple store - so if someone has any ideas it would be fantastic
thanks Penny

Hello Penny
The Leopard Installer DVD is Dual-Layered. For lack of any further information it's possible the original installed Optical Drive on your eMac can't read from Dual-Layered DVDs? Yours may be the Combo Drive instead? Although your model meets the minimum RAM requirements you would benefit greatly if you upgraded to at least 1GB - preferably more. Do you have another Mac or access to someone who has?
HTH?
Tony

Backup Leopard DVD - Nothing Works!

After many failed dual-layer DVD-R and DVD+R burns (and a few single-layer DVD-Rs), I've come to the conclusion that Apple has made backing up a Leopard DVD impossibly hard.
I bought the family pack for myself and a few other guys in the same household (a dormitory), and I want to make a couple copies for them so we can each have an install DVD. I thought to myself, "Why not just try the same way you made backup copies of every other Leopard DVD?" So I did the following:
1. Open Disk Utility.
2. Click on "Mac OS X Install DVD" (the bottom level).
3. Click "Create New Image."
4. Name the file "Mac OS X Install DVD" with "DVD/CD Master" and "None" for Encryption, saving the file to the Desktop.
5. Eject Leopard DVD
6. Insert blank DL DVD-R (or +R, I tried both).
7. Click on the "Mac OS X Install DVD" image I just created.
8. Click Burn and burn the disc.
I've done this method, and also have tried a few other variations (such as making an image that's 8 GB with an Apple Partition Map, then Restoring the Leopard DVD to it, then burning that image... also, doing similar things but changing options here and there, even using Carbon Copy Cloner).
No matter what I've done, I can't get a bootable copy. And some of the copies won't even show up in the Finder (they just sit in the drive spinning until I restart the Mac with the mouse button down to eject the DVD).
Is there any possible way to create a DVD copy of Leopard? I know it may be possible to make a bootable FireWire partition, but I'd rather have the DVD for archival's sake.

Jeff Geerling wrote:
2. Click on "Mac OS X Install DVD" (the bottom level).
That is your problem. Counterintuitive as it may seem, select the *DVD drive*, not the "Mac OS X Install DVD" volume below it.
Explanation: the "DVD/CD Master" image format creates bit-for-bit images of whatever you tell it to, but if you tell it to image a volume on a drive, that is all it will image. The Leopard DVD actually has quite a bit more on it than the "Mac OS X Install DVD" volume, including a Driver Descriptor Map, the Bootcamp code, the Apple Partition Map, and (aha!) "AppleDriverATAPI." You need all this to create a clone of the disk that will boot both PPC & Intel Macs. It is about 7.5 GB worth of stuff, only about 7.1 GB of which is in the visible partition (the volume "Mac OS X Install DVD").
BTW, steps 5 through 7 can be simplified: Just select the newly created .cdr file in the D.U. list, click the "Burn" icon & D.U. will helpfully eject the Leopard DVD disk & ask you to insert a DVD blank.
Also, in step 4, name the image whatever you like -- it is an image file & the name of the volume is in there along with everything else. I use something not likely to be confused with anything else, like "Leopard Retail Disk v 10.5.0."
Finally, if you don't know what blanks your drive will burn to, use the handy link at the bottom on the right of D.U.'s window when the DVD drive is selected. It will open System Profiler to the appropriate section, where you will probably find that "+R DL" is listed in the "Write Strategies:" section but "-R DL" is not.

Copied Leopard DVDs performing differently?

A friend who went to an Apple Store had a "Genius" mention to them that copies made of the Leopard DVD wouldn't be able to access "emergency boot options." I'm not quite sure what she was talking about when she refers to "emergency" boot options, because I've booted from copied DVDs of Leopard and it seems to work just fine. But it gets to the larger question: is there any reason that a burnt copy of DVD will perform differently than the original copy of Leopard?
This question was of interest to me, since I bought the Family Pack, and do indeed have copies of Leopard floating around my house that I burnt from the original DVD. (I'm not a fan of pirating software; in this case, it didn't seem too far out of line for me to do since I paid for 5 copies.)

A copy is a copy. I cloned my install disk to a 10 Gb partition on an external drive. Now if I need to repair permissions or anything I just boot from that partition. Burning a back up of software you legally own is not considered piracy.

Not the right Leopard DVD - can I still get the drivers installed?

My cousin just got a Macbook Pro 15 and I am helping her get Boot Camp/Windows up and running. She came from out of town and did not get her Leopard DVD and I realized the hard way that the DVD that I have (from my mac mini purchase 6 months ago) does not install the drivers for most of the peripherals.
Is there a way out for me or do I have to remotely help her after she gets back to her home?

Lyssa wrote:
If she just purchased this computer brand-new from Apple, then yes, you'll have to help her remotely, if she needs anything. The only place her drivers can be found is on the disc that came with her computer.
You can get Windows installed for her and make sure she knows how to boot between the two OS's, of course. And installing the drivers is very easy--all she has to do is be booted in Windows and pop in that DVD.
~Lyssa
Thanks for the response. Yes, she purchased it 3 days back. I have installed Windows already and I actually wanted to set her up with Parallels as well and I did not want to do it till I have Windows XP patched up and for that I need Boot Camp to be updated to the latest version first
Oh well, this is going to be a good test of my remote help skills

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