Backup from RawDevice to FileSystem Size

Dears,
Please, my DB is running on RawDevice, for while i did not make any tests. But if i use RMAN to backup entire DB to a FileSystem, are the
backup files created by rman bigger than RawDevice?
Best regards,

Smaller than the raw disk is almost definitely a guarantee. But I would advise you to move to ASM. The performance is better, the manageability is improved, and you will gain a substantial amount of I/O tuning you can not do now.

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LightningChaser wrote:
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renatocremonese wrote:
I want to use it for backing up my Mac.
It's good for that . . .
But also I don't keep all my stuff in my Mac.
But not for that.
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ORA-01081: cannot start already-running ORACLE - shut it down first
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Total System Global Area 574619648 bytes
Fixed Size 1250212 bytes
Variable Size 213912668 bytes
Database Buffers 352321536 bytes
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Hi,
It does depend on what application you are using to make your back up.
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IN System Preferences > Time Machine your set the Drive you want the Backups to be kept on.
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Hello, I have three Thinkpad laptops, T400, X61 and R61i. I want to back up them using one external HD. The HD is divided into three partitions, the smallest for X61, the medium for R61i and the largest - for T400. I backed up all my laptops into the proper partitions (base backups), but now, then I want to make partial backups, they all are going to the largest partition (intended for T400). Is it possible (and how) to cause R&R to always use the same partition for each laptop while backing up it?
Solved!
Go to Solution.

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(2) The conclusion
outside of an existing RNR folder, For a NEW create RRbackups folder, it will choose the partition with the MOST FREE space.
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I will offer some commentary and match it to what you are seeing.
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(2) for the C drive hdd, you CAN select another partition on the C drive hdd to hold the rrbackups folder, from the Advanced menu parms. This option is NOT available for second HDD.
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I will walk you thru a basic how it works on your end. Correct me if you see something else.
(1) external HDD
part 1. small.
part 2. medium
part 3. large
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You uninstall RNR. Reinstall, change location to Second. Run a backup. This will be an incremental backup (2) and will continue where it left off. (ie, it should find the old folder with uuid inside).
(2) the mess
You backup medium computer. It will find the part3 RNR backups but no matching UUID. humm.. Will it use folder on part3 or choose a largest free space partition, like part 2. You will have to test. I would vote for part 3.
===
In summary:
I believe RNR is designed for only 1 rrbackups folder on an external HDD, regardless of the number of partitions. You seem to indicate you have 3 RRbackups folders on 3 partitions. Look inside each folder. It might be just using part3 for all your backups and you just dont see it. (ie, were you using part 1 for small machine, took a backup, then added part 2 and part 3, etc). This might work. Small machine is locked in on small part 1. Large is locked in on part3. But if you uninstall RNR on small machine, reinstall, take backup. hum. It will probably switch over to part 3. or find part 1.
This is risk and time you do not need to take. You want a solid plan that works. Based on this mess, I think RNR folks decided to design only 1 RNR backups folder on external.

Deleting old backups from Time Machine/Time Capsule

I've spent a long time deleting copies of old back ups from Time Machine today. In view of this am I right in assumming this should in turn reduce the size of sparsebundle on TC? If not, please can someone tell me how I can reduce the size of sparsebundle on my 2TB TC; my MacBook has 150GB HD and my sparsebundle is 500GB in size. I want to address the amount of backups I keep as I do not wish to have a TC clogged up with multiple monthly backups of data each month, which in my opinion is pretty redundant.

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I am reposting this. The first one was rejected because it contained 'product feedback' and I was directed to the 'Terms of Use'. The 'Terms of Use' say feedback is welcome...***?!?
My 3TB external drive started to die a few weeks ago. It was still under warranty and I just got the new one yesterday. I wanted to preserve all my backups (I had every backup for my late 2012 iMac) on it.
The short of it is that there were like 20-25 million files there or something crazy like that. Finder was going to take forever to count the files. cp and rsync would take like a week. I decided it wasn't worth the hassle, so I just securely erased the old disk and did a new initial backup on the new disk.
The old disk would only mount in read-only mode, so I couldn't prune the backups down to a manageable size. Unless you only have a handful of backups, or you can internally mount the drives to make it go faster, it's going to take forever to do this.
Regards, Patrick

Hi Eric,
Thank you for your response. I came across another thread yesterday which suggested the Restore via Disk Utility method. It worked for me, too. This was after I had tried following the method suggested in the Apple article above three times but each time the message was the same ....
The operation can't be completed because you don't have permission to access some of the items.
I dare say that Apple would like to have us believe that it's a simple matter of 'drag and drop' but it certainly wasn't for me. From what I've read the permission problem crops up fairly frequently. Before the second and third attempts I had already amended Permissions on the Time Machine backups so that everyone could read and write, so that mustn't have been the problem. I'm the only person who uses my computer so that's not a problem.
The next problem I have is that I decided I would use the Restore route to transfer my SuperDuper clone rather than start from scratch. Unfortunately, the partition size on my original backup disk where SuperDuper clone is is 350GB and the size of the SuperDuper clone partition on my new backup is 300GB.
Of course, Apple says you can resize partitions using Disk Utility. What they don't say is you can downsize partitions but (in my experience and that of many other frustrated users on various forums) you CANNOT upsize using Disk Utility. I have 100GB spare on my external hard drive (from downsizing two partitions by 50GB each) BUT there is no way Disk Utility will let me increase the size of SuperDuper partition to 350GB :-(((
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