Backup iphoto 09 library error

Arrrggghhhhh, please help me.
I am trying to move my iphoto 09 library to my 2 TB Time Capsule. The library size is showing as 96GB and my poor imac hd (intel) is only 320GB so is being dominated by images and movies (approx 16000). I thought I could put the library on the time capsule and keep the hd for music and documents. My question is two fold:
-Why when I am copying and pasting this library as a whole to the Time Capsule would it be aborting after about 8 hrs saying error -36? (Iphoto is closed and energy saving options are off)
-Is there a way for me to reduce the size of the library and rebuild to just include the photos that I can physically see in iPhoto? (any originals are long forgotten about.) That way I can use the time Capsule as a back up rather than a single storage place.
Many thanks

1. This is not a suitable location for the Library and not an intended use for the Time Capsule. If you want to move the Library off your internal HD buy a Firewire or USB disk, format it Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and use that.
2 A -36 error means that the process has hit a file that cannot be read or written - locked or damaged in other words. Back Up and try rebuild the library: hold down the command and option (or alt) keys while launching iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild. Include the option to check and repair Library permissions.
3. The only part of an iPhoto Library that can be removed safely is the iPod Photo Cache, but that's pointless as it will be recreated the next time you sync with an iPad/iPod/iPhone. Other than that Don't change anything in the iPhoto Library Folder via the Finder or any other application. iPhoto depends on the structure as well as the contents of this folder. Moving things, renaming things deleting them or otherwise making changes will prevent iPhoto from working and could even cause you to damage or lose your photos.
Regards
TD

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Hi,
I am looking for most efficent method to backup iphoto library from one iMac27(running Lion) to another iMac21(running Snow Leopard).
My iPhoto library is approx. 20GB. So I am also concerned with performance too.
Also, I only want to backup if iphoto library on iMac27 changes. There is no point to keep backing up all the time if the library has not changed.
I would also like to be able to schedule backup at certain time of the day. (Primarily overnight when I am not using the computer)
I have looked at Chronosync. It looks like it has the features I am looking for however I am concerned if it performs well.
What would you recommend for a solution to this process?
Thanks and I look forward to your reply.
...Bruce

Let me inform you of some things if I may.
A lot of people "run out of room" or want to make a backup and naturally look to their other machine as a source of space they are not utilizing, this isn't the best approach.
So let me inform you of your options.
1: You can backup your entire boot drive contents in a rotating in time fashion with Apple's built in TimeMachine, which only restores, it's not bootable. You use a external storage drive for this. Just hook it up and go.
2: You can make a hold option key bootable clone backup of your entire boot partition contents (not Lion Recovery Partition) in a permanent fashion that only changes if you change it or schedule it to change making a clone drive. Carbon Copy Cloner and you use a external drive for this. (best method as it's bootable in case your computer fails to boot normally)
3: You can manually or automatically use software that "syncs" the contents of two folders to a storage drive (even in either direction). SyncTwoFolders
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You can do this, however it's not advised, first off network transfers are slow and cumbersome to setup and maintain. Second your taking up precious drive space on the other computers drive.
If this is what you want to do, then repeat your question again in a new topic, as my other machine is down and haven't done that in quite some time to remember the details exactly.
The larger picture I see is it appears to me you have no backup plan at all, and I think a separate storage drive for each computer, which if you hook it up to OS X, will ask to make a TimeMachine drive, will then do so, copying and backing up your entire drive so you have a constant backup of everything.
Also you should maintain a extra separate storage drive for each machine to keep a extra copy of your files in a permanent fashion, or to free up room on oyur boot drive, like what your trying to do with the other Mac.
With each computer with it's own backup, they are not so dependent with each other if your needs change for instance and the machines have to be separated.
The golden rule of backups is to maintain two seperate, easy accessible, hardware backup copies of your data at all times.
TimeMachine is ok and works mostly, but not if it gets messed up if your machine gets messed up, or if your TM drive mechanically or software fails without your knowledge. So maintaining a another copy of your data on a storage drive in a pernament fashion is also advised.
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I appologize for the basic nature of this question......but....
How do you backup the IPhoto library to an external HD or CDs? Do you need a backup utility or is there some piece of software in the basic OS somwhere?
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I need the confidence of backup, and more HD space on the computer.
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1. Burn the iPhoto Library folder in the Finder to a CD or DVD
This method will give you a burned iPhoto Library folder that can be copied back to your computer to replace a damaged library. You can also use this method to backup an old library when you want to create a new Library to use as your current library.
insert a blank CD into your internal or external CD-RW drive and copy the iPhoto library to the CD icon on your desktop. When you drag the CD icon to the Trash/Eject button in the Dock, you are given the option to burn the CD. Click Burn and the CD is created. To burn a DVD backup of your digital images, use a DVD and a SuperDrive-equipped Mac
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2. Copy the ENTIRE iPhoto Library to an external drive formated for a Mac. Do not use this as your only back up as the external can also go bad.
3. Copy the ENTIRE iPhoto Library to your iPod in disk mode
4.Creating your own CDs and DVDs for viewing in iPhoto
This method is a great way to back up Albums of older photos or even your entire library if it is small enough to fit on a DVD. This method will give you a library that will mount within iPhoto in the source column to be viewed. To import any images from this library they need to be dragged into your library in the source column.
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Creating a CD or DVD to be viewed in Windows or by a photo processing company
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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93037

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I have ensured that's also sorted, the drive is partitioned into two 500GB sections. I'm sure that the issue is a corrupted file. I may be wrong, but the library at the moment is still on her MacBook, and wont upgrade into iPhoto '11, which makes me think there is a corrupt file/files somewhere in the library. If this is correct, will it simply be a case of trawling through all her library?
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I now use iPhoto to put all my photos in, treasured memories. I do use Time Machine on my iMac, and also manually backup the iPhoto library file manually to a separate external HDD as well, so that makes a copy on the iMac, copy in TM, and copy on external HDD, enough I think..except.
What happens if the worse happens and I get my iMac and external HDD stolen, lost etc? I do keep my external HDD in a different place in the house but worse could happen and the house could get trashed etc.
So, does anyone backup their iPhoto library to the cloud somewhere? To be honest my photos (and probably my music-iTunes library) are the 2 things I treasure most. Anything else I could get back I think.
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1) So is this a viable option? to backup the iPhoto (and iTunes) library to the cloud for safe keeping
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I don't think it's really feasible to back up a large library to the Cloud unless you have a enormous bandwidth. I would make two suggestions to your back up routine:
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It’s also backed up to a portable hard disk when ever new photos are added. This hard disk lives in my car. For security, this disk is password protected.
I have a second off-site back up at a relative’s house across town. That’s updated every 3 or 4 months.
My Photos are backed up online. There are many options: Flickr, Picasa, SmugMug etc. However, check the terms of your account carefully. While most sites have free uploading, you will often find that these uploads are limited in terms of the file size or the bandwidth you can use per month. For access that allows you to upload full size pics with no restrictions you may need to pay.
Every couple of months I test the back ups to make sure they are working correctly. It’s very easy to mis-configure a back up application, and the only way to protect against that is to do a trial restore.

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