Backup method, referenced vs managed

Hi guys,
I am going to backup my whole photo archive on an external drive and there are a couple of things I want to ask.
First of all, I use referenced masters which are on my second drive of my MacPro (2 quad core, 16 Gb of ram).
The Vault is not going to backup referenced masters, so I thought I would switch to managed files and consolidate masters in order to have them included in the Vault.
In this way I would have just one file (the Valut) which will include everything and I will only need one backup instead of two separate(vault + masters).
What are the advantage/disvantage of backing up a library with managed vs referenced masters?
Will I double the space on my drives by backing up managed?
Thank you in advance for your answers

IMO Referenced Masters are far preferable, stay there. Back up folders of masters independent of Aperture and use the Vault for backing up the Referenced-Masters Library.
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