Backup & Restore Fail-over Cluster

i ask for the best practice of backup and restore SQL fail-over cluster with Active-Active solution.

Hi Sir ,
Here is an article regarding baking up and recovering the cluster configuration :
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/clustering/archive/2008/01/20/7176982.aspx
Best Regards,
Elton Ji
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