Backup Storage - Aperture Vault versus Time Machine versus daily SuperDuper
What value does dumping the Aperture library to an Aperture Vault give in addition to running Time Machine to one drive and a daily SuperDuper copy to a second drive with irregular SuperDuper copies to an external drive that can be removed from the machine room.
SImon,
Vault and Time Machine address different needs. Probably you will want to have both.
The advantage of Time Machine: incremental backups of previous versions, very compact storage. And you can integrate it into your regular backup of the whole system and include the regular masters as well. But the disadvantage: Time Machine decides for you, what will be deleted, if the backup drives get full. You do not have control over what will be saved and what not from the previous versions.
The advantage of vaults: You can make full backups of your library for well defined moments in time - snapshots of important states. I'd create a vault, whenever I make a major upgrade of the system at least.
Is there anyway of cancelling a stuck Vault update other than the sledgehammer approach of Force Quit?
If the graphical user interface is unresponsive, like when updating a vault, you can use the Terminal to send the "termination signal" to Aperture: Sometimes this will succeed, even if the "Quit" button does not work:
Look for the Process ID of Aperture in the Activity Monitor (launch Applications > Utilities > Activity Monitor" and click the CPU heading. This will bring Aperture close to the top of the list. Make a note of the PID number in the first column, in this case 66550.
Launch a Terminal window and enter the following command:
kill -TERM 66550 (insert Aperture's PID instead of 66550)
This will send the "Software Termination Signal - TERM to Aperture, the same as pressing the "Quit" button should do, but send it directly, and not from the GUI that is unresponsive. This way I always succeded in cancelling a vaul update without force quitting. Not all processes can be terminated this way, however. The Terminal.app is also in the Applications > Utilities folder.
Regards
Léonie
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I just migrated from being a long time Windows user (and using Lightroom) to my first iMac and Aperture.
Just beginning to import my images into Aperture and had read a few posts about "vault" which I assume is Aperture's way of backing up either it's library or the master files.
If this is the case - and I am using Time Machine to back up the entire iMac drive - what is the advantage of using vaults also?
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So is this simply not accessable except via "Tech"? -
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Does anyone know how this will operate ?
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RogerI guess there'll be a new 'vault' mechanism, as TM backs up your hard drive and vaults typically reside on another drive. whether or not TM can work with other drive I don't know.
Perhaps vaults will remain largely unchanged and be used for recovering entire projects or libraries, and TM will allow you to go back through previous version of the current file, or restore individual images that you may have deleted.
Regards
Steve -
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Is there any advantage in using Vault over Time Machine?
Hi all,
Yesterday I imported around 6000+ pictures from iPhoto and consolidated them into my Aperture library. After much re-organisation into projects, folders etc. I decided to update my backup Vault to preserve all my hard work. The Vault is located on a connected external drive with plenty of spare storage. I had previously backed up successfully to the vault when there was only a few dozen pictures in my library.
After initiating the Vault update process I then left it to get on it (and to have dinner and then watch the football...) and after several hours was dismayed to find that the process appeared to be stuck at just over 50% completion. It was obvious that no further progress was being made.
I was also concerned that there appeared to be no mechanism to cancel the process and the only course of action I could take was to apply a Force Quit against Aperture - not something that I care to do, if I can possibly avoid it.
After a rudimentary search of this community I saw that several others had experienced the same problem - although some suggested that a fix had been applied in recent versions (although I am running the latest version).
Given this, I'm reluctant to use the Vault again - particularly as there appears to be no means of cancelling a stuck job. I do however use Time Machine, so my questions are:
1) Do I really need to use Vault if I have Time Machine making regular backups of my Aperture library to an external drive?
2) Does using Vault give any advantages over Time Machine?
3) Is anyone else experiencing this problem with the current version of Aperture (v3.3)?
4) Is there anyway of cancelling a stuck Vault update other than the sledgehammer approach of Force Quit?
Thanks in anticipation,
Simon.SImon,
Vault and Time Machine address different needs. Probably you will want to have both.
The advantage of Time Machine: incremental backups of previous versions, very compact storage. And you can integrate it into your regular backup of the whole system and include the regular masters as well. But the disadvantage: Time Machine decides for you, what will be deleted, if the backup drives get full. You do not have control over what will be saved and what not from the previous versions.
The advantage of vaults: You can make full backups of your library for well defined moments in time - snapshots of important states. I'd create a vault, whenever I make a major upgrade of the system at least.
Is there anyway of cancelling a stuck Vault update other than the sledgehammer approach of Force Quit?
If the graphical user interface is unresponsive, like when updating a vault, you can use the Terminal to send the "termination signal" to Aperture: Sometimes this will succeed, even if the "Quit" button does not work:
Look for the Process ID of Aperture in the Activity Monitor (launch Applications > Utilities > Activity Monitor" and click the CPU heading. This will bring Aperture close to the top of the list. Make a note of the PID number in the first column, in this case 66550.
Launch a Terminal window and enter the following command:
kill -TERM 66550 (insert Aperture's PID instead of 66550)
This will send the "Software Termination Signal - TERM to Aperture, the same as pressing the "Quit" button should do, but send it directly, and not from the GUI that is unresponsive. This way I always succeded in cancelling a vaul update without force quitting. Not all processes can be terminated this way, however. The Terminal.app is also in the Applications > Utilities folder.
Regards
Léonie -
I frequently back up my vault in Aperture. Should I be excluding my Aperture library from Time Machine? Does it matter? Are there pros and cons?
Thank you so much.To my chagrin, not a single photo in my Aperture has ever been saved in any backup, EVER.
Time Machine will backup all your photos, unless you have excluded them from backup - all my photos are on my TimeMachine backup, without any any problem.
Check your TimeMachine settings:
Open "System Preferences > Time Machine" and click the "Options" button. This will show you, if items have been excluded from the Time Machine backup. Do you see your Aperture Library there? If yes, delete it from the "Exclude" list.
How do you tell, that your images have not been backed up? In the Time Machine backup you will see your Aperture library, if you view the folder, that is containing your Aperture Library, but you will not see the individual photos, if they are managed and hidden inside the Aperture Library package.
Only if your images are referenced, will they be visible in the Time Machine backup.
I have no idea what VAULT is, however I definitely need to get in to see a GENIUS & get them to help/show me, what I need to do so I can back up my Aperture photos.
Vaults are snapshots of the Aperture Library, and will contain the managed images, but not the referenced images. I prefer Time Machine backups to vaults, because they will incude my photolibraries automatically, when I backup my system.
Regards
Léonie -
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"Time Machine completed a verification of your backups. To improve reliability, Time Machine must create a new backup for you."
Connected to a wifi network and QNAP storage system. There are 5 computers on this network, and each backs up just fine. The issue is isolated to this one machine.
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A Time Machine backup is a great backup scheme and allows you to recover your files, if need be, but it is not an archive, that you can use instead of the backed-up files.
I just did my first Time Machine back-up on an external HD, currently have no more space on my Mac's HD.
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I've been using the Backup app to Back up to my external hard drive, However I notice it is taking up more and more space when I do my weekly back up.
My questions are:
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B) Why does Time Machine try to back up my whole computer?
C) Which one is better?
Thanks in advance,
IanA) What is the difference between Home Folder full Backup & Incremental Backup?
The Home Folder is not part of your question. I see your question as full backup vs. incremental backup. A full backup copies every file in your designated source to backup each time your backup. An incremental backup will only copy what has changed since your last backup, not everything.
B) Why does Time Machine try to back up my whole computer?
It is designed to do that. It does it in the event that your mac's hard disk fails. In that case you'll also want a system to run, not just your user files. You can tell it not to backup system files, but in my mind that's crazy, I want my entire computer backed up, not just my user data.
C) Which one is better?
Time Machine. It renders a more complete backup. Does entirely incremental backups. Can even backup external disks. Has a simple way to restore single files/ folders and has software on your Mac OS X 10.5.0 Install DVD to restore from the backups. The one downside is that it requires an external hard disk to do the backups. -
Missing backups/lack of space with Time Machine
Hello,
I am having trouble with Time Machine since I updated to Mavericks. Time Machine tells me that I have insufficient space on my external hardrive (1TB) even though in Time Machine it only has one full backup. If I Get Info on the drive it says Capacity 999.72GB, Available 71.37GB and Used 928,35GB.
In Finder I used to be able to delete older backups if needed but generally Time Machine did what it was supposed to - it overwrote old backups. I can no longer find the files to delete and TM only says I have one full backup.
How can I uncover these, what appear to be, hidden files? Something must be there as I have no space left!
The external hard drive is 2TBp partioned, I also seem to have lost all of the data from the non-TM partition, which is not great either.
Please let me know if you need any other information.
Thanks in advance for any help.Do you use virtualization software, such as VMware, Parallels, or VirtualBox?
The virtualization software creates a large virtual-disk container that is constantly changing, so it has to be backed up every time Time Machine runs. That will quickly fill up any backup destination.
You should exclude the virtual-disk file(s) from your Time Machine backups. To do that, click the Options button in the Time Machine preference pane. Back up the files on the virtual disk from within the guest system, using a native backup application.
A compromise solution is to create a "snapshot" of the virtual machine in the virtualization software (not a Time Machine snapshot.) That will give you a single large file that never changes and only has to be backed up once. All the subsequent changes will be stored in a new file that's initially much smaller, but will grow over time. You should still exclude that file from TM backup. If you ever need to restore the VM from Time Machine, you'll have a working setup, which will make it easy for you to restore the rest of the data from within the guest system.
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