Backup strategy in FRA

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NLSRTL Version 11.1.0.6.0 - ProductionI would like to ask some advice to place my backup in FRA.
I read in a book that it is adviced not to put the archivelog backup in the FRA since if something happen with the disk that store FRA, everything will be gone. However the concept of FRA is a centralized backup logically.
so based on your experiences, what is the best way to utilize FRA for backup strategy?
is it safe to put everything in FRA or we should still split the backup for archivelog to different location?
thanks

The idea is that you should never have a single copy of your backup anyways, be it of whatever file type. Its true that the FRA gone would lead to the non-availability of the backups but then , you should had pushed your backups from it to the tape drive eventually to safeguard them. So there wont' be an harm in putting the backup in the FRA as long as you multiplex the backup and keep it on some another location as well.
HTH
Aman....

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Later My bad, this is Oracle 11 only ( the gavinsoorma link ) . Getting harder and harder to think about 10. Don't think I would use RECOVERY WINDOW.
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http://gavinsoorma.com/2010/04/rman-keep-forever-keep-until-time-and-force-commands/
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Hi,
Database version:10.2.0.
Database Size:60GB.
Daily Updation Approximately :2GB.
I need some advice on my backup strategy.
My backup startegy:
Monthly Once, Date: 1 Full backup (Incremental level 0).
Daily Incremental level 2 backup from Date: 2 to 6.
Weekly Once Incremental leve 1 backup on Date:7.
Daily Incremental level 2 backup from Date:8 to 13.
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Daily Incremental level 2 backup from Date:15 to 21.
Weekly Incremental level 1 backup on Date:22.
Daily Incremental level 2 backup from Date:23 to 28.
Weekly Incremental level 1 backup on Date:29.
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Time Machine is brilliant. It's saved me many times.
But recently, the backup drive with a year's worth of backups, died.
I therefore lost ALL my backups.
Not a major problem as I still have my current data and having re-formatted the Time Machine drive it's merrily backing it all up again. (I just hope I don't need to recover to last week's backup ... as I no longer have it.)
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Due to the structure of the library I have the "originals" and "modified" images, when edited some. When importing a library into another without copying them I have some/many thumbnails twice. How do I prevent iPhoto to use the original thumb when a modified exists?
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Expression Media appears to be available for the upgrade price of $99 if you are using iPhoto as shown here:
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