Backup with Lion

Just bought a new iMac. Ordered it with the 256GB Solid State Hard drive AND a 2 TB ATA drive. Anyone know of a backup utility that will backup both drives. Time Machine only recognizes one of the two. The Mobile Me Backup software doesn't work either.. only recognizes one drive. Saw CrashPlan Pro in the "store". Anyone familiear with using it to backup?

Time Machine ignores its own drive, so since you only have two drives, you probably selected one of them to use as the backup/Time Machine drive.
If you want to back up both drives, you will need a third volume to use as the backup drive. There are plenty of options for an external hard drive, a NAS or a Time Capsule.
Tom

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How so I know...
Time machine preferences shows last known backup as NONE
NOTE: I found a section in the time machine prefs to use another backup file and all seems ok now
Thx

How to use each machines's HD as a backup with Lion Server accounts?

Hi,
I am the administrator of a network for a small business.
We have 6 machines (iMac running OSX Lion) and one Mac Mini running OSX Lion Server.
Every user is logging on their machines with their network account, which means that they (by default) save all their documents on the Mac Mini server.
The good side of this is that:
a) Any user can log in from any machine
b) Every document that the user has is backed-up at regular time intervals thanks to Time Machine.
Although the networks access tends to slow down the machine (especially with big Excel spreadsheets), and each iMac has massive hard drives that are all 95% empty.
Is there a way to easily setup an appropriate policy so that I can leverage the big size of each machine's hard drive, and reduce network access?
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Thanks,

Hello & welcome to the foruns!
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ICloud/iCal backup with Lion

We keep losing calendars and can't find a back up on Time Machine. Now I may be a numpty with this but with iCloud, does this mean we no longer get time machine backups of our iCal. If you can back it up, what the **** do I do because so far we have lost all our histroical data for iCal. It may be Master 5 playing eith iCal - all devices he has access to now disabled but we do need to be able to back up our calendars. What do I do?

Apple describe a backup process on this page:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4910
You will observe that it is a bit of a performance.
As regards Time Machine, how are you trying to access the backup? In the Finder or in iCal itself? - you should be doing the latter. I don't know whether you can restore calendars in TM but you do need to do it from within iCal. However you will probably find that even if you can restore them the syncing process will immediately delete them again: the workaround for this is described here -
http://www.wilmut.webspace.virginmedia.com/notes/icloudtm.html

Accessing (continuing) old Time Capsule backup with new Powerbook

Using Migration assistant I set up my new MacBook Pro. I read that I could access my Old Timecapsule backup with Lion. I followed the steps alt click on timecapsul in the Doc (actually not the dock ...up where the ICON is upper right) Selected Browse other Backup disks selecked my backup but nothing happens. It keeps trying to set up a new backup and the old data is not retrievable. I would like to continue to use the old backup. How do that. No dialog pops up offering access ...nothing. I installed Lion after I migrated and after my first atempt to access Timecapsule data.
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Hi L,
The following site has a lot of info on TM; you might want to see if you can find your answer there: http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/FAQ.html

Please help! Cannot access TC backups on new hard drive with Lion!

I know this seems like a generic posting, and believe me that I have searched through countless posts to find the situation most similar to mine. To start, the basic story (I am pretty computer illiterate, so excuse the lack of terminology):
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-Got my computer back from the Apple "depot" with new hard drive and hard drive cable.
-Had an extremely hard time getting my TC to link to my computer and via AppleCare phone help, realized that Apple had given me back my computer with Leopard, and they said that I needed to go back to the store to get a Lion reinstall since the backups had been done in Lion.
-Went back to Apple store, reinstalled Lion... they told me there would be no issue once I got home and hooked up to TC. Connected to TC via ethernet and went through "set up" procedure as if it was new computer - could never get past the "Select the Disk" page. Either it was beach-balling or just sitting there, and I couldn't click continue or anything.
-Called AppleCare again, they said to try it through Migration Assistant instead of Set Up... again, could not connect to TC. They said it was too complicated to do over the phone and sent me back to the store...
-By now, I am on vacation and spent 5, yes FIVE, hours at another store trying to migrate the data to no avail. I obviously don't know everything they tried, but I know they tried installing each operating system since Leopard, going through set up and migration assistant, and doing a disk repair of the TC. None of this worked. Every single time my TC connects and you can see the title of the drive ("Data") and the two separate backups ("emilysmac" was my old computer and "emilysmacbookpro" was the dummy one we tried to make). Emilysmacbookpro was accessible with no data on it, but once we clicked on emilysmac it just said "connecting" forever and never did anything.
Basically:
-300GB of my TC shows that it has been used, so I know something is there.
-I can also pull up the data on another computer, and it shows files dated from September 2009 up to the date I last updated, but they do not look how they used to - they are "Unix Executable" files and cannot open through Time Machine.
I have a really hard time thinking that my TC AND my computer hard drive failed at the same time - which is actually what Apple suggested to me. Is there anything that anyone knows that will help?! I am desperate here! This TC had backups of all my music, pictures and law school work over the past 2.5 years. Any help would be much appreciated!

PS I have also looked through Pondini's site, but I am not sure if I am missing something since I don't totally understand all of it. Thanks again!

HT3275 Since updating OS to Mountain Lion from leopard, I get the following error message when trying to backup with time machine on external drive. Could not complete backup to media share. The network backup disk does not support the required AFP feat

Since updating OS to Mountain Lion from leopard, I get the following error message when trying to backup with time machine on external drive. "Could not complete backup to media share. The network backup disk does not support the required AFP features." What are AFP features and how do I get Time Machine to backup to my current external backup?

This means that your NAS does not support the required encryption. Update your NAS to the latest firmware or ditch it and buy a Time Capsule (they are the most reliable when using TM).

Best Setup for Lion Server Time Machine Backup with Drobo?

I've been thinking about this a lot, yet I don't feel I have a good solution for this, so I'm going to throw it out to the community.
I have a home server setup using a Mac Mini running Lion Server 10.7.2 with a Firewire 800 Drobo attached. The Drobo is used for both Time Machine backups and files. I also have a Powerbook G4 running Leopard and a MacBook 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with Lion 10.7.2 which connect to the Server and the Drobo wirelessly thorugh an Airport Extreme.
I want to use Time Machine to have all of my computers back up to the server & Drobo, but realize there are several ways to go, each with their pluses and minuses:
Server Time Machine Backup:
+ Centralizes backup process, rules, and other elements
+ Currently Mac Mini is backing up to the Drobo correctly using this process
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- Would combine laptop backups with server backup into one sparse image: this would lead to the computer with the largest backup needs taking up too much space
Client-Driven Time Machine Backup:
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Any thoughts or experiences on how best to set this up? I tend to do most of my work on the MacBook, hence I am concerned about it having it's backup space eaten up by the server, but that may be more of a theoretical issue than a real one.
Thanks in advance for your help!

Well I'm not sure if I am following you but I will explain how I set mine up. When I got the Drobo I inserted 2 drives and selected the highest available volume I could (16TB). My drives are 4 TB each and I knew I would soon add 2 more. Then Drobo did its thing and prepared these drives. The Drobo shows up on my mini desktop as an external drive. When I log into my server from my other computer I can see the mini server volume and the Drobo volume. I can access each no problem. They act as regular volumes. Soon after I added the second two drives and everything stayed the same meaning I could still see and access the Drobo on the desktop of my mini. So it sounds like you used the Drobo dashboard to partition yours for two volumes? Are they both showing on the desktop?
"Maybe the Drobo needs to be mounted on the desktop to be considered AFP feature enabled." I could be wrong and hopefully someone will correct me but I think the Drobo (or volumes) have to be mounted on the desktop to work with AFP.

I have a MacBook Pro with Lion OS do I need a USB 500 GB Drive to successfully backup my computer?

I have recently purchased a MacBook Pro with Lion OS 10.7.1. Do I need a USB 500 GB Drive to Backup my computer?

Do you plan to backup the entire MacBook Pro, or just selected dbcuments?
If you are planning to use Time Machine to backup your Mac in its entirety and then backup the incremental changes as you move forward, you need a drive that is at least twice the capacity of your Mac.
In other words, if you have a 250 GB hard drive on the Mac, then a 500 GB drive (or larger) would make sense for backup purposes.
I have yet to meet the first person who ever felt that they made a mistake by buying too large of a hard drive. They seem to fill up more quickly than you would expect no matter what size you buy.

Will SL TimeMachine backups work OK with Lion?

After 2 years of intensive use and abuse, I am going to erase my 2008 iMac's hard drive running Snow Leopard and install Lion to get my computer back to as near as possible its "as new" condition.
I have done a final TimeMachine backup of my Mac running Snow Leopard.
After the complete erasure and installation of Lion will my TM backups work OK and seemlessly or is there anything I need to be aware of?

Ian R. Brown wrote:
I just want to check that I will be able to access my old SL TM backups from my "new" Lion powered iMac?
Yes, with a caveat:
If you don't do a full restore, or use Setup Assistant or Migration Assistant, to put your data back, the erased HD will be treated as a different one, and the next backup will be a full one, of everything on the drive. That will, of course, take a lot of space. Worse, the old backups will be treated as being on a different HD that's no longer available, and you'll need the procedure in #E3 of Time Machine - Troubleshooting to see them.
But, effective with Lion, you can probably force Time Machine to have the "new" disk "associated" with the old backups. Then it will do only an incremental backup, of what's new or changed. Note that if you use different user account short names, those accounts will be backed-up in full. Similarly, if you rename or reorganize folders, the new/renamed/moved ones will be backed-up in full.
See #B6 in the same link for instructions on "associating" the erased drive with the old backups.

MacBook with Lion will not recognize external hard drive (AMP) that was my backup for older IBook, please help

I had a IBook G4 and an external hard drive as its back up.
IBook running something like Snow Lepord, anyway
I have a Intel Macbook now with Lion, Ive been told here there is a possible confliction between the AMP external harddrive and lion.
I will say a few times I have for limited time been able to access the drive on the newer MacBook, but then Lion (I think) drops it.
Any ideas out there?

Disk Utility sees the drive, finder/desktop doesnt.
Click on the Desktop->Finder menu->Preferences->General->Show on Desktop->HDs and ext HDs.
Mac OS Extended (journaled) what's that mean and is the format the issue here?
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1604 and http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2355
No, that's not the issue.

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Late in August 2011 I took delivery of a new 27" iMac with Lion preinstalled. I need to run Windows as well. Following Apple's written suggestion, I printed off the then current 12 pages of the document "Bootcamp Installation & Setup Guide" which clearly stated that the hard drive you were going to install on had to have on it, before install, a maximum of one partition. Using finder and disk utility I determined that there was only one partition. Unbeknownst to me, there was (is) an additional hidden (from those two pieces of software) partition on the disk. As of machines delivered new with Lion preinstalled, Apple has begun to include a "recovery partition". In that partition there is a copy of the software necessary to reinstall Lion via a download from the Apple App Store. Not knowing the partition was there, I cranked up "Bootcamp Assistant" which nicely offered to repartition my hard drive creating a "Bootcamp Partition" in addition to the existing. I told it how big to make each and hit the do it button, subsequently destroying my operating system. Oh, it very nicely told me, after the damage was done, how many partitions were REALLY on the disk and that I could not install Bootcamp cause there were too many partitions.
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First you need to seriously back up your Mac.
A clone is an exact duplicate of your existing Mac HDD. Merely copying and pasting a drive will not make a bootable backup. In case of problems you can boot from an Ext HDD clone and use the utilities to repair, reformat, or clone the Ext HDD back to the internal Mac HDD. While Time machine back ups are easy you can not boot from it. The best thing to have for any kind of problem is a bootable clone backup on an external drive. Some even have two external backup drives in case one fails. There are two good apps for cloning named SuperDuper and Carbon Copy Cloner.
In dealing with the recovery partition a simple approach is to clone the Mac partition to an external disk then re-partition the Mac to a single partition (GUID partition table) . Then clone the external disk clone back to the Mac. You will now have only one Partition and Boot Camp assistant sould not object.
Some have recommended getting rid of the recovery partition while others have advised not to do this. If you have the Lion USB Thumb Drive you do not need a recovery partition so can discard it without concern. There is another way to get rid of the recovery partition if you decide to do it but first be sure to have a backup of your Mac ( I know I sound like a nagging mom but many dead computers have been saved by this simple precaution).
Use Disk Utility.
1) Make the Recovery visible in Disk Utility by using a program like Secrets:http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/27025/secrets or MacPilot:http://www.koingosw.com/products/macpilot.php (15 day free trial).
2) Highlite the Recovery partition and Control click it and select Mount the partition.
3) With the Recovery partition highlited, erase the partition, you'll get an error message, ignore it.
4) Now highlite the top identity of the hard drive and select the partition tab.
5) Highlite the Recovery partition and press the minus sign.
6) Click and hold on the bottom edge of the partition above and drag it to the bottom, if it doesn't go there automatically, the press apply.

Time Machine: Missing Snow Leopard backups after Lion Upgrade.

I regulary use Time Machine for backups to my WD drive through my network. After I upgraded to Lion I could not back up to my network drive I learned through various forums that my WD drive required a firmware update, to work with Lion. I upgraded the firmware and now I no longer have my Time Machine backups from Snow Leopard, only backups from Lion, any idea how I can locate my Snow Leopard backups?

Pondini wrote:
I'd be the first to agree that keeping two sets of backups, one a "clone," is prudent.
But if you have a Snow Leopard clone, then upgrade to Lion, the next time you update the clone you'll lose the Snow Leopard version entirely.
Yes, I was caught out early, so I have a selection of backup drives now to keep everything backed up as safely as possible. Although at the moment, I'm not seeing any reason to go back to Snow Leopard, and all my media is safe. Hopefully in the near future my SL backups can go and I can get ready for the next OS when it comes along.
Thanks

My Quicken no longer works with Lion. Any suggestions?

My Qucken no longer works now that I have installed Lion. Any suggestions?

Visit Intuit for their solutions or find another application that works with Lion of which there are many. Quicken is supposed to be upgraded this year for Lion, but that's only the rumor.
You can also downgrade back to Snow Leopard or partition the drive and install Snow Leopard on a different partition provided you can install Snow Leopard on your Mac model
Downgrade Lion to Snow Leopard
1. Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
4. Quit DU and return to the installer. Install Snow Leopard.
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If you have Snow Leopard Time Machine backups, do a full system restore per #14 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions. If you have subsequent backups from Lion, you can restore newer items selectively, via the "Star Wars" display, per #15 there, but be careful; some Snow Leopard apps may not work with the Lion files.

How do I transfer email messages from an external hard drive to a new hard drive with Lion installed as the operating system?

How can I retrieve the old email messages from Mail on an external hard drive which operated with Snow Leopard, then transfer the old Emails into my current version of mail operating with Lion?

'''https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/recovering-important-data-from-an-old-profile'''
'''https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/back-and-restore-information-firefox-profiles'''
These can't get your data back, but will help in the future.
These add-ons can be a great help by backing up and restoring Firefox
'''[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/febe/ FEBE (Firefox Environment Backup Extension)]''' {web link}
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Firefox extensions, history, passwords, and more.
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your saved files individually into installable .xpi files.
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'''[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/opie/ OPIE]''' {web link}
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