Bad routers w/MBP C2D

OK, the other thread related to this topic:
(http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=403194&tstart=0)
is getting kind of convoluted with too much stuff that does not belong in there.
So I am starting this new thread, as well as a thread of GOOD routers that work ok. When posting, only post your router that IS NOT working with the Mac Book Pro Core 2 Duo via wireless, and it's model number. NOTHING ELSE!
The thread for good routers is here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=740399
I will start with the first reply...

Apple airport extreme base station 5.7 and airport express 6.3, WPA2 personal, randomly drop connections and fluctuate signal strength (15-5 bars).
My first mbp c2d which I shipped back and a new replacement mbp c2d (pure apple software out of the box osX 10.4.8 + 2006-007 patch, no 3rd party, no data transfered from an old pbG4) randomly drop connections (can easily re-establish, thou) and the signal strength fluctuates between 15 and 5 bars, which cuts the average download speed by 50% (e.g. 4Mbit/s)compared with an old pbG4 which (on the same network) never drops connections and is on average faster (10 Mbit/s ) when close (~3 yards) to AEBS or AE.
In a larger distance (~45 feet) from AEBS the mbp c2d has better signal and download speed than pbG4.
MBP C2D 2.33 GHz, PB G4 1.25 GHz titanium; AEBS(5.7), AE(6.3), WPA2-personal Mac OS X (10.4.8) dell m70 pentium M, dell C2D, windows xp pro

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Good routers w/MBP C2D

We need a list of wireless routers that work flawlessly with the Mac Book Pro C2 Duo. Please list in bold below and nothing else.
There is another topic here for BAD routers:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=740397&tstart=0

Ted,
I have never tried the WRT54G without encryption.
To be honest with you, I'm not sure what the firmware version is. I have never even checked it. I set it up right out of the box.
I hope you can understand that I'm a little reluctant to go fishing around my router's settings in fear of screwing it up. It's not that I don't want to help, I just don't want to "fix what isn't broken".
What I can tell you is that I did a lot of research before I bought the WRT54G. I started by researching my internet service provider. I have Earthlink DSL service. Looking into their home network wireless offerings I learned that they provide the WRT54G with their service. Further research on their website, I found detailed instructions for configuring the WRT54G. Follow this link to find the documents:
Link
I referenced articles: 170749, 3905, 25705, 25695 and 25257. To set the WPA2, I followed article 25695.
Hopefully you will find them helpful.
Good Luck,
John
p.s. This reply is proof. I'm sending it from my MBP via the WRT54G.

MBP C2D unable to boot on external OSX 10.4.8

I have a Mac mini CD and a external HDD, both are installed with OSX 10.4.8. My Mac mini can boot on both OSX. However the MBP C2D is unable to boot on both (mac mini CD in target disk mode, and ext. HDD), it can only boot on the built-in OSX. When I tried to boot that two OSX, first it loads for a while and then freeze at a white screen. Sometimes the white screen may even blink vigorously.
I even had made a disk image of the OSX on the ext. HDD and restored it on my MBP C2D's internal HDD. The same freeze still happened.
Now it seems that the MBP C2D is not compatible for OSX other than its origanal one.
Can anyone confirm the existence of the problem?

It is really bad. Does the Apple support line help? The support line in my region is not that "pro".
For the issue, I had never experience something like that on a Mac, neither MBP CD nor Mac mini CD, they can boot from each other's OSX or OSX on ext. HDDs.
I am really surprised by this problem on MBP C2D. I think it should be software issue and every one using MBP C2D should have the issue, right?

Anybody gonna cancel order for 17"MBP C2D if shipping gets delayed again?

Just wondering if anybody else will want to cancel their order if our "updated" shipping date estimate is pushed back again. This is my first Apple (not including my ipod) and it has been a bad experience so far. I was looking forward to my new mac world but right now my trusty PC is looking better and better. If the delay was for something other than supply issues I might not want to get on this sinking ship.

I feel your pain...I ordered the new MBP C2D then cancelled the order, because I wanted to wait for some more feedback. I had ordered a custom configuration and when I called Apple to hold the shipment until I was got back to them they said that normally they won't do that and with it being a custom config it was not returnable. If i cancelled before shipment I would be able to in essence get a refund but in that case I wasn't even being billed for it since they don't charge the credit card until it is shipped. this all happened last night (sunday). I was made aware that if it were shipped anyway because it had already been built I could still return it for a refund since I had made the decision and it is on file with Apple before fedex got their hands on it.
fast forward to this morning.....Fedex got it before Apple pulled it from the loading dock......in the end, I don't really mind the situation. I will just drop it back at fedex. apple didn't pressure me into keeping it and even helped me expedite the return. I also don't need a replacement computer, so I am not in a bind.
Also, I guess, it i needed a new 'puter I would be ****** off with the delay....on the other hand, I would anticipate any delays or problems if I needed a new one.
good luck and hang in there....you won't be disappointed (i hope)
Eric

PB AL 15 to MBP C2D not going well

Tried using Migration Assistant but old PB G4 Al 15" 1.33Ghz always froze as Target Disk on any transfer over 5GB (all that mattered). So moved stuff manually, so no big wonder I'm hosed now.
Please spare me the "wipe it and start over" stuff, installing all the apps & pwd's from scratch will be last resort only, and I manage >60 G4 & G5 Macs at work that will soon migrate to Intel so I need to know how to fix things.
So new MBP 15.4" 2.33Ghz is fine except for:
1. MBP goes online fine at work (web, POP mail, whatever) but typing 1 character into any text field like Google or banks or anything freezes Safari instantly with BBOD. Firefox is fine. Unable to re-install any Java software update or 10.4.8 combo update
2. At home old PB & MBP will connect to Belkin FD7230-4 wire & 802.11g gateway router fine (wireless or wired), can ARD & fileshare fine between them, Network pref's show "connected to network 'xyzap'. ..connected to Internet via Airport (or Ethernet, or both)" but the new MBP can only get RSS feeds (with Safari but NOTHING with Firefox, web sites get "ur not connected 2 internet" [Safari] and "Server not found" [Firefox] nor POP mail for that matter, haven't tried FTP yet..)
x. Why does Migration Assistant fail with target locking up? Tried DU & DW repairs, no luck. On manual moves there were a few files that would kill transfers with "can't read or write" type errors, moving them separately by themselves or deleting got past that.
*** does this tell us? Need some help here.
Thx, dh

Not much attitude about m&a (migration assistant?), but about these forums, I never get any help here.
On about the 5th wipe and install try used ma after install instead of during (not the 1st time trying that way) and it left a log file on desktop (never did b4) which pointed to the mail.app files that were the culprits, deleted them, wiped & installed again and success moving 1 home directory.
That said it seems clear from posts elsewhere that there are issues with "can't read or write" issues. The G4 PB had no problem with the files in question.
And as to internet connections, also obvious from posts elswhere that there r issues with MBP C2D's and wireless gateway routers (NetGear, Linksys, D-link & Belkin (I have Belkin F5D7230-4US8.01.07, what a POS, worked with a couple all day at work trying to set up WDS / bridging, when their "tech support" hung up on me in 1st 5 seconds with 2nd level guy I threw 'em back to wally world). Dug a bit deeper tonight, plugged the MBP straight into cox cable modem again, no luck again UNTIL reboot cable modem then joy.
So reran AirPortUpdate2006002.dmg but no joy. kaka. So anyway gonna mark this 1 done and post over at "Getting Online & Networking" to see if the help there is any better.
peace, -d

MBP C2D 17" delivery in HK

I am not sure if this is the place to post.....
I believe Apple rates US as the most important market in the world.
I've placed the order for the new MBP C2D 17" on Oct 26. Immediately I get a shipping date of Nov 10~12 and delivery date of Nov 13~15, which is almost 3 weeks.
I waited and waited, finally yesterday (Nov 10) I didn't see any change in shipping (WEB) so I called Apple in HK. The sales rep told me it should be shipped from Shanhai China on Nov 11.
This morning, I checked my order status again, it is now:
Ships by: 15/11/2006 - 17/11/2006
Delivers by: 17/11/2006 - 21/11/2006
Another week delayed!
I know for new stuff usually it takes long time to get but this shows that either Apple HK has no clue on what is going on with delivery, or they are focusing on other section of the world and sacrificing HK buyers.
If the computer is deliver according to the new schedule, it will be almost a month to get a MBP 17" from Apple in HK.
p.s. the only optional thing I selected the the glossy screen. Everything else I kept the default selection.

On Nov. 15, My order status on the Apple Web states shipped, with delivery date of Nov. 20. Apple is using BAX Global to deliver my notebook.
I tried to locate the package using BAX Global online tracking but got nothing, got in contact with BAX Global with no good result. (BTW, BAX Global are very helpful, even though they couldn't find this package on the system, they really tried)
At the same time, I send inquiry to Apple, but like my previous request was not yet answered.
Anyway, BAX Global contacted us on Nov 16 around 4:00pm that the package will be delivered on Nov 17 3:00~3:30pm. Will see what happens. If that is true, then the package will be 1 day late compare to the original delivery date. (I know I am in HK)
Not bad at all.
But honestly, Apple should up the service in Asia because for some reason non of my request gets answered. Even the email notification that I received before (regarding the delay of delivery), was 3 days after the initial ship day, unlike other poster on this forum that gets the notification within a day.
With all the problem such as 'Grainy screen', heat, wireless issues etc. I need to give the computer a good run to see what happens. I will let you know how it perform once I get it. I am on business trip in China right now, will not be able to get the notebook until next week, 8(

Mbp c2d help!

hi there i have a mbp c2d and it states on the apple site the idle tempreture is 30 - 35 degrees but mine runs at about 43 - 47 is this normal and also iv noticed the ejects key and the escape keys are at a slight angle to the rest of the keys should i phone up apple and get a replacemtn as i dont live anywhere near an apple store. plz can anyone help

The heat on the specs page mean the heat on the outside the machine is best suited for operating in as an external environment. The heat on the inside of the computer has no published limit. Temperature measuring tools online measure the heat sensor on the inside, whose temperatures have nothing to do with the spec page's heat indication and only have meaning for an authorized service technician since Apple does not publish to the general public what the internal heat sensor maximums are. Generally users here have guessed what the arbitrary heat maximum is based on experience of frequent crashes or random shutdowns just after the heat reaches a certain limit. However, this may be meaningless still because it could be caused by bad RAM, bad preferences, bad cache, or bad permissions. A more reliable indicator would be a hardware test that tells you the RAM is bad, your hard disk getting too full, or repairing permissions or repairing disk yielding something it can't fix. For more on directory and permissions repair, see my http://www.macmaps.com/directoryfaq.html
Before doing any such repair, backup your data as my backup FAQ explains:
http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html
Good luck!

Problem: DVD-RAM can no longer be read on MBP C2D

The "MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-857D" in my MacBook Pro C2D is said to have read (but not write) support for DVD-RAM media.
During the first few weeks of its lifetime, reading DVD-RAMs definitely worked. But now, no more, no matter what brand of media I try.
All other types of optical media continue to work as advertised (read and write).
I wonder whether this is a physical defect (but then why doesn't it affect other types of media?) or an issue caused by recent sopftware updates (but when I boot from an external DVD-drive using the very original MacOS DVD with no updates at all, why do I still not get read support on the internal drive?).
AFAIK there has not been any recent firmware update for this model. So what can be the reason? Should I let Apple swap the drive? Has anyone else observed the same issue?
Guido
MBP C2D Mac OS X (10.4.8) MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-857D

Hey Grant,
thought you'd like to know my "cleaning the lens with a cloth" worked fine - uh... but for about three days only, then back to the same old, same old.
I'd originally slid a business card covered with a lens cleaning cloth (from my camera bag) to clean the lens, and although the cloth emerged mostly pristine, I figured it must've done the trick as the drive started working again.
So this time, I decided to go in deeper. I actually took the whole drive apart - case off, drive out, drive dismantled - and I had a long look around to see if any parts looked dirty or damaged...
I found just one thing - the small silver rod on which the read/write head travels (the servomechanism that moves up and down the disc radius as it reads/writes) had some 'oily gunk' at the point where the travelling-head's 'sleeve' met it - when I tried to move the head manually up and down the rod, it sort of staggered along. So I cleaned off the gunk with a cotton bud and then slid the drive-head up and down a few times 'till it seemed to run freely.
Put everything back - and fired up my Mac Pro. And the drive has been 100% fine since then - two whole weeks!
Maybe this time I've cracked it? (for my drive at least)
Roger

MBP C2D 15" display blacks out!

My week old MBP C2D 15" blacks out on me. I find that it happens when applying light pressure on the back side, at a surface square underneath F1 - F5 - F - Caps Lock. Light pressure makes it flicker, a little harder results in complete black out. Obviously a production fault and I will of course take it in when I have time... this is my work tool so no way I can just leave it in for days. But that is another issue. Maybe someone else experience the same black out? My build is 8N1037

Hello
Did you find out the reason? The same message shows up in the system.log of my iMac Core Duo after the Mac OS X 10.4.9 Update, but the iMac works fine.
Cleaning all caches, repair user rights, PRAM and SMC Reset didnt help. Also no luck with Preferential Treatment tool to check for corrupted preference files, it didnt find corrupted plist files.

Help! I Can't Boot from Firewire Drive (Previous MBP C2D Hard Drive)

Can a hardrive from a C2D Macbook Pro start an i7 Quad MBP?
I just sold my 2008 15" 2.4ghz C2D MBP, (that had 10.6.5 installed), and today bought the newest
17" 2.2ghz i7 Quad Core MBP, (that has 10.6.6 pre-installed.)
I installed a fresh HD on the 15" before selling it, and kept its HD, and put it into a FW800 enclosure.
+(note: The 15" Macbook Pro I just sold, booted fine from this HD in the FW800 enclosure.)+
Before migrating my data, from the FW800 drive, I figured I would upgrade the old OS to 10.6.6, so it would be a seamless migration.
While up and running on the brand new i7, I could see the FW800 drive with 10.6.5 as a Startup Disk option in System Preferences.
I rebooted holding down the option key, selected the FW drive, and pressed the arrow below to continue startup.
The grey screen with the apple came up immediately, but I was horrified that the spinning gear never did appear, and startup froze at that point. I left it like this for five minutes. Grey screen with apple. Frozen.
So, I held down the power key, shut it down, then restarted holding down Command-S to run Disk Utility in SIngle User Mode, (/sbin/fsck -fy). Disk was okay.
I rebooted into the new internal, installed Diskwarrior 4.3, and checked the FW800, and it had no errors.
I opened Startup Disk in System Preferences, and chose the FW800 drive as the Startup Disk, and rebooted. Same result. Grey screen with apple, and no further...
Can someone please help me troubleshoot this?
Should I be able to boot this new MBP i7 with the HD from my old MBP C2D?
Is there something incompatible between the old C2D and i7?
Thanks in advance!

Ho Lee MACkeral wrote:
That CD2 OS will not boot into a new computer's OS.
Hi, thanks for replying.
I knew that the switch to Intel from ppc, meant a ppc drive, partitioned with APM could not boot an intel machine with a GUID partition table.
Do you know:
1. for certain that a C2D HD cannot boot an i7 machine?
2. and why?
Ho Lee MACkeral wrote:
Why not use Migration Assistant in the Utilities folder?
I am planning on doing this.
My old drive was 10.6.5.
The new machine has 10.6.6 pre-installed.
I figured that if I was able to upgrade the old drive to the same OSX first, it would provide a more seamless migration.
I was also concerned that my applications on 10.6.5 might become broken if they were migrated to 10.6.6. I really do not want to have to install everything.

MBP CD w/256Mb video or MBP C2D w/128Mb video?

Hi.
Its a shame i am writing my first post in a PC machine..but the reason is im going to buy a MBP very soon.
Im going to use the machine for Architecture software (AUTOCAD 2D n 3D running on windows), Adobe creative suite CS2, etc...
The question is: should I buy a MBP CD w/256Mb Video or MBP C2D w/256Mb? both have 2.16GHz and 1Gb RAM.
Im going to buy it from the refurbished section and both are very close in the price. U$S1599 for the MBP C2D w/128mb video and U$S1499 for the MBP CD w/256mb video.
Could someone give me a hand with this decission? thanks a lot.
buying my first MAC

If you are going to use the current version, 2007, of AutoCAD you might want to check the the system requirements. The difference with this version is that it does make use of the GPU although I'm not usre how much a difference VRAM will make.
Regarding your choice though, I'd probably go with the Core 2 Duo model. It runs cooler, has 802.11n capable hardware and is capable of 3GB RAM which will be important for apllications like Adobe Photoshop. Be aware that the 2.16GHz C2D model has "only" 128MB VRAM.

Temperature-related startup failure in MBP C2D

My MBP C2D fails at startup when rebooting after normal use (means web surfing and playing music with iTunes) and temperatures in my MBP's CPU cores have been ~50C or more by Temperature Monitor.
At startup DVD-drive makes it's normal eject sound, but then nothing, screen stays black. There is no startup sound or gray screen. I need to shutdown computer, let it cool down and after that it will start again.
Hardware test doesn't find anything and reseting PMU, PRAM or SMC doesn't help.
Problem seems to be temperature-related. Solutions?
Macbook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Sorry for posting a not-so-helpful reply, but I think perhaps there is something wrong with the temperature sensor(s). The processor should shutdown only when the upper temperature threshold is exceeded. I suppose the hardware test cannot be run when the machine is still "hot"? I would call AppleCare...

Trying To Re-Install OS X on MBP C2D 2.4-17"

I'm using a MBP 2.16-15" Core 2 Duo with 3Gb Ram, OS X 10.4.10
I am trying to re-install OS X on my friends MBP C2D 2.4-17" OS X 10.4.10 using MY Install DVD's as he forgot his! (My DVD OS V 10.4.8, AHT V 3A116, Disc V 1.0)
His MBP keeps coming up with the dreaded grey crash screen and black box telling me in English and other lang's to hold down the power key and re-start, after i try to boot from my dvd.
Do i need to use His dvd's? are mine not compatible? or do i need to re-format his drive and re-install?
Any ideas would be helpful.
Thanks

You cannot use your installer discs for his computer. Aside from the fact they are not the same, it's illegal.

Unprompted user switching MBP C2D 2.33 10.5.8

My MBP C2D 2.33 running 10.5.8 has recently developed the following problem: The desktop suddenly "swivels" to the Login Window without having been prompted to do so. It does not log me out, it just switches to the Login Window. When I log back in I can see all of the windows still open with the work in progress, but the computer switches back to the Login Window within a second or two.
Restarting means losing the unsaved work in progress, but allows me to log back in and continue working. The problem has occurred 3 times over the past 3 days, twice while doing nothing more complicated than composing a message in Mail.
This problem is a bit annoying while I'm working at home, but my work involves a lot of presentations for groups from 12-200 people and I can't afford to have this happen under those circumstances. I've used Disc Utility to repair the permissions database but am looking for another more specific diagnosis and fix if possible. I can do an archive and install of Leopard if necessary but am not looking forward to it.

Just happened again, this time with Mail not even open. Acting suspiciously like a parental controls issue, even though this is happening on the Admin account rather than one of the kids' accounts. I'll try turning parental controls off altogether to see if it helps.

Has anyone received MBP C2D 17"?

Has anyone received or at least seen MBP C2D 17"? I called apple store in London and they told me that there is another delay and I should try it in 7 days. Does anyone know what is going on?

How else
would you explain that 15" is here for awhile while
17" is not. Not even for a display purposes.
Something is suspicious here :))
it doesn't seem that strange to me. retooling an assembly line to produce a few hundred models for display purposes which are almost identical (save for the chip) to the previous line doesn't make sense. it's all about money. there is probably more money to be made right now making macbooks and 15 inch macbook pros. they've cranked out some 17s now so that means they've either got a new assembly plant on line or at least have converted some of the lines from a plant formerly making 15s over to the 17s...these kinds of operations changes take a while to make and require considerable planning and commitment to a decision in order for them to make sense, money-wise. anyway, that's my take on it...

Bad routers w/MBP C2D

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