BAM - XI Vs Webmethods

Hi,
I would like to know the efficiency of Webmethods over XI or vice versa from the viewpoint of BAM...

SAP Business Connector (a.k.a. webM)
- Point-to-point connectivity
Messaging, mapping, routing
Free download from SAP Service Marketplace
Relatively small footprint
webMethods adapters for non-SAP integration
MarketSet Connector based on Business Connector
XML-enabling of existing SAP systems
SAP Exchange Infrastructure (a.k.a. SAP XI)
- Central hub for intra/inter-enterprise integration
Messaging, mapping, routing, business scenarios, business processes
Included in SAP solutions or licensed separately
Runs on SAP Web Application Server
Eco-system of partners providing adapters and content (including also webMethods)
Messaging adapter for connection to MarketSet environments
Leverages native XML capabilities of Web Application Server
Both are XML-based
- Coexistence and integration of both will be possible
So, then why are the two still in existence? Mainly because difference customers have difference timetables for their businesses. Customers looking for a quick implementation of a point-to-point scenario in the short term can still use the Business Connector. BUT, customers looking for a strategic integration solution for the complete application landscape should consider the Exchange Infrastructure.

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I have an environment utilising webMethods as the integration tool for SAP-nonSAP integrations.
My question relates to the future roadmap for enterprise services (ESB and enterprise services repository and registry). Do I utilise SAP PI 7.1 as the enterprise services bus or utilse the webMethods environment?
The reason why I am leaning towards SAP PI is that most of the enterprise services which will be exposed will be from the SAP environment. How would SAP PI manage the existing integrations that use webMethods and how much work would be involved in exposing these are services?
From a BPM and BAM perspective, would the PI enterprise services environment be able to monitor and interrogate the webMethods processes?

Hi,
Since you would need to wet your hands by playing with webservice and PI. Please consider the following links.
SOAP scenario
/people/siva.maranani/blog/2005/09/03/invoke-webservices-using-sapxi
https://weblogs.sdn.sap.com/pub/wlg/1334 [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
https://weblogs.sdn.sap.com/pub/wlg/2131 [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
https://weblogs.sdn.sap.com/pub/wlg/1442 [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
Regards
joel
Edited by: joel trinidade on Mar 25, 2009 10:41 AM
Edited by: joel trinidade on Mar 25, 2009 10:43 AM

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Hi,
Our one of the client is currently using WebMethod, and they are switching to Biztalk step by step. In their existing system they are having a web tool which is used by Customer Service people. This tool is mainly used to get the required data such as List
of todays transactions, list of orders from perticular customer in last 10 days etc.
As client is moving to BizTalk now,we need to give them alternative solution for that web tool. This looks like doable with BAM, but stills want to know your thoughts on it.
Below are some screenshots of existing web tool:
Also,I am new to BAM, doesn't know much in detail abt it. Will appritiate, if anyone can give me helpful links Considering given scenario.
Thanks, Girish R. Patil.

Hi Girish,
Yes you are right, it's doable with BAM.
for whatever information you want to catch, you will have to create Activities and then create different views like customer , vendor etc. in the figure shown by you.
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Tutorial : Business Activity Monitoring
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc268164(v=BTS.10).aspx
BAM Quick Start
http://geekswithblogs.net/michaelstephenson/archive/2008/06/14/122866.aspx
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa972199(BTS.10).aspx
Enaling BAM (Webcast)
https://msevents.microsoft.com/CUI/WebCastEventDetails.aspx?EventID=1032370152&EventCategory=3&culture=en-US&CountryCode=US
Business Activity Monitoring in Depth for Developers
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd320628.aspx
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> I need some information on migrating webmethods to PI 7.1.
> We have our interfaces currently working in webmethods which call webservices in SAP.Currently legacy systems call SAP webservices through webmethods which we would like to migrate to PI 7.1.
>
> Could I get some information on how to proceed with this?
>
2 years back i worked on one migration project from WebMethods to SAP PI 7.1
> 1.Could I get the overview
> 2.Can I import the same structure and mappings into SAP PI?
> 3.Do I need to recreate the mappings or use the same from webmethods ..if they are XSLT mappings?
> 4.Can I use the mapping transformation done in webmethods ?
>
> Any thoughts would be of great help
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