Banding in Gradients when printing

Issue #1: (page 1 of the attached PDF)
I gave a very large file that contains several gradients. I have to save it as a PDF to send it to the printer. When it prints (on an Epson large format printer) there is a spot in the gradient that becomes something between banding and over-large pixelization! (hard to describe) It doesn't happen everywhere on the gradient. I have a .png image placed over the Gradient, with a transparent background. The weird printing happens immediately after the box of the .PNG
Issue #2: (page 2 of the attached PDF)
To try to solve this problem, it was suggested that I print to the PDF printer and send the file that was then created. This resulted in a much smaller file, which did not create the banding/pixelization, but each one of my placed files has a thin line around them, which shows on the print. I tried embedding each of the linked files, but it still happens.
So, what can I do to get this file into a PDF which will then print properly?
thanks for any advice you can offer!
LLM

Looking at your PDF it's difficult to tell exactly what's happening. I've had banding problems, however, in similar situations passing Illustrator files through Photoshop to be converted to high-resolution JPEGs for a very specific printer. Essentially, the file looks fine in Illustrator and fine in Photoshop until one significantly raises the white levels. The banding which then appears is very similar to the banding which appears upon printing. Can you see the errors in your file before they're printed? Or, only after printing?
Here's a couple thoughts... save Illustrator file as hi-res PDF. Use CS4 High-Quality Print presets. Open in Photoshop, rasterize at 300dpi in PS's opening dialog box. Flatten and save as TIFF, etc. for printing. May solve the problem.
Another setting to experiment with which may do nothing (and may cause the sky to fall) is to check your presets for Color Settings. Try setting Conversion Options > Intent > to Perceptual. This may make some users howl as Relative Colorimetric is the default setting for many users. However, it's been said to me that Perceptual is the correct setting to avoid banding in images with large gradients.
For more information on the differences between the two, check out: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/color-space-conversion.htm
Regarding the lines around placed images, I haven't dealt with that one. You may want to open the images in Photoshop and make sure there isn't some colored trim left over from the cropping process. Provided that isn't the case, try re-placing them before saving to PDF and moving to Photoshop.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!

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Mysterious lines and gradient when printing from Illustrator or pdf on PC and MAC

First of all I have to admit I'm not a big computer brainiac but this issue keeps on reoccurring no matter what computer I use. When creating files/layouts in Illustrator and either saving them to pdf and then printing or printing directly from Illustrator either from a PC or from Mac (I use both) the print outs come out with mysterious lines and gradient not matter what colour is used. The lines occur on solid colour prints, when gradient or transparency are not used and when they are used as well. Any ideas suggestions how to make them go away?

Monica,
Here's an image of a print out that was meant to be a solid black colour. This happens with other colours as well not just with black.

Banding occurs when printing from Illustratror/InDesign on HP Designjet Z5200 PostScript Printer

Recently we got the below printer for large-format prints such as posters, banners and the like.
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/18972-18972-3328061-12600-3328080-4122732.ht ml
However so far when printing directly from InDesign and Illustrator there have been problems with "banding" (alternating stripes of darker and brighter colors on the paper when printing).
It seems that this could have something to do with either the type of paper and/or the OS (we use both XP and Win7) on which CS5 runs but I am still unsure if these are the real causes.
After having talked to a certified HP-technician (not only a support employee!) the technician pointed towards the CS5 package as the culprit.
At the very moment we are using a workaround that the before mentioned technician advised us to use which is basically the following.
Illustrator --> Saving the Ilustrator file, then opening it in Photoshop and saving as a tiff raster image in the relevant resolution, then importing the tiff raster image into HP's HP own "Instant Printing Pro" printing application.
InDesign --> Saving the InDesign file as a pdf, then opening the pdf in Photoshop and saving as a tiff raster image in the relevant resolution, then importing the tiff raster image into HP's HP own "Instant Printing Pro" printing application.
These two solutions both work without banding on the final print.
However, sometimes - as mentioned before - it seems that the paper might absorb the ink better if it's of a better/thicker quality when banding doesn't seem to occur (at the moment we mostly use plain paper settings in the local printer settings display when loading a roll of paper which also is a cheaper type of paper) and while banding seems to occur mostly when printing from XP machines it doesn't always seem to occur when doing so from Win7 machines.
What's the score on the above?
Any help and input is welcome and appreciated!

Well, I have no official
connection to Adobe, but any manufacturer who sells a product targeted
at the graphic arts industry, and then says that the reason it doesn't
work is because there's a problem with the software produced by the
graphics industry leader needs a reality check. Printer manuafacturers
have had access to Adobe for years, so there's really no excuse for an
incompatibility problem.
Your company is a vendor? Get
escalated. HP should be all over getting this to work correctly,
including providing a RIP for you if that's what it's going to take to
implement proper printing. How do the expect you to demonstrate or
recommend this printer if it stripes the background?
Peter -->
You are right about basically anything that you said and I agree that this should be HP's headache. But it's not so simple at the moment.
First of all I'd hate to stand back like a dummy if it would turn out to be a minor driver setting issue or another insignificant problem that creates the banding. On the other hand it would of course also be the local HP-support failing since they didn't manage to tell us about it in the first place and that's really their job and responsibility but under any circumstance, I'd like to give the ideas and suggestions from the other participants further up this thread a chance and see if the pdf-printing or other ideas work. In other words..., if I'd complain to HP it had to be bulletproof.
Secondly we are supposed to sell these and similar products to our clients and if I should start a dicussion I'd have to argue not only with HP who would most likely claim that the workaround they told us works (in a way) and that this was a result - at least to them - as well. I might also have to start discussing with the CEO of our company, the purchasing department and the marketing director (the latter actually said some time ago when we had the first problems that if the printer didn't work according to the HP-consultant's promises they could have it back, so there is at least some hope there). At the moment I am too busy at work and too low paid to be getting into this. And I seriously doubt that HP would give us a RIP to be testing this off even though we'd argue that the clients won't be able to work this out if we don't do. They'd probably just say that it's mainly for plotting charts and architects or stuff or find a whole range of other excuses. It's not certain and there could be positive surprises but I'd say that that's not likely.
There is one other thing Peter that I am still wondering about...
If you take a look again at the fourth and last picture-link I posted you can see the exact same print as in link no. 3 but whereas the third link shows banding the last - the fourth image link - shows no banding at all. Now I am not a 100% sure anymore if these were both printed directly from Illustrator but to my best knowledge they were since I printed all of these banners the same day and I don't recall saving to tiff or using other programs. I might be wrong but if that's the case then the thick HP-paper doesn't band whereas the thin does. That's the reason why I stated previously that the banding might occur with thinner paper (or wrong paper load settings) and doesn't occur with thicker paper at all. As mentioned I don't recall this action a 100% but am pretty sure. Also therefore I would like to run another test when I get more time and won't be so busy at work as I am right now.
Do you think there could be a difference there...?
macinbytes wrote:
I'm guessing they have the same crappy Colorburst software that shipped with the HP we got and it's never going to get good with InDesign or Illustrator transparency. We have the thermal printer that is 6x more expensive and the software is still bad. At version 9.3 it still fails on InDesign transparency.
We just make tiffs or normalized PDFs for files containing InDesign transparency. Illustrator transparency generally works better than InDesign, but isn't infallible. Anything that uses the gradient feather tool in InDesign I don't even bother with a test print to see if it gets it because I know it will fail 100% of the time.
If they are a vendor they are in a Catch 22 if they do it right and go for a solution that normalizes the files properly before sending to the garbage software that ships with it. When you are talking about an entry level thermal inkjet the software package isn't going to be robust. Something like a GMG or other solution to handle all the show devices files works, but at best you are disingenuous about how files are being handled with your clients and face pushback when they can't run all the cool tricks to them when they get it out in the field.
Happens with Colorburst, happens with Colorgate, happens to a lesser degree even with the lower end Creo RIP. Fiery seems to get it good somehow, but doesn't power a ton of inkjets.
HP support is phonetag hell anyway for inkjets. They buy out tons of companies that produce anything printing like ColorSpan and provide bare minimum support on the products they slap an HP tag on. They want to sell inks and papers. They don't make the software and license it in bulk like the crap they load on their computers. They also usually ship with old software that needs at least a couple point releases before it is current, but even the current software on their thermal printers sucks at InDesign transparency. HP may need a reality check on their software, but I doubt they get it. They've got a sufficient stranglehold and supporting what is essentially a bottom of the barrel portion of their printing business is in the high maintenance low yield square for them.
macinbytes -->
Wow, now THAT is scary reading...!
If what you wrote is true then things really start looking bleak. But I can recognize some of the problems that you are mentioning although I am not into all of the details that you are writing about in your thread. But it sure looks like they just mass produce and try to keep support to a bare minimum whereas they are scoring big bucks on the media, inks and other accessories and then hope that complaints will die and people will just give up in the end.
It does make sense also seen in light of the fact that our local HP-consultant who "introduced" us to the printer praised it to the sky with a lot of "sales mambo jambo", trying it out in HP's own "E-share & Print" (which I was told by the HP-technician was the wrong HP-print program, instead he made me download and install the "Instant Printing Pro") whereas he NEVER even tried it off in any of the Adobe programs or asked some of our employees to do so.
If you are getting more info in regards to the development in these cases or solutions software-like speaking I'd love to hear from you.
Thanks for your time and for posting.

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Can someone explain how to create a large gradient field in CS5 that won't striate when printed? I created a poster, 18" x 24" in which the bottom third gradates from olive to black. When it prints there are thick paralell bands which are undesirable. The tips I found online go back to 2009 which don't apply to CS5. The directions in the CS5 manual are confusing to me. Is there a simple way to do this?

Is your monitor well calibrated?
Did you print it locally on your own printer before sending it out?
After you've exhausted everything else, you might consider creating a small test file with the offending gradient, and physically carry it to one of the printing locations, and speak to a technician there. Honestly, it sounds like a profile mismatch, but if this has happened at multiple Kinkos locations, then I agree, it would seem the problem is most likely in the file.
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One last thing: can you post a portion of the offending area of the image here?

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Try applying the gradient feather to the frame that contains the graphic (don't make a separate frame).

Banding.. yes banding in gradients

First of all Im not here to waste your time. I have read pretty much every thread on here about banding in gradients and there is no solution for my problem.
Details:
Illustrator CS
I experience awful banding in almost every gradient I do. It doesn't matter what the colors are. It happens more so in darks.
I cannot rasterize my work, so I can't do the gradients in PS, I can't add noise, etc. I am currently working on something that will later be resized for an art show. I work 100% in vector and unfortunetly, it has to stay that way.
Here is an example of what I'm working with. The darks.. the banding is horrid.
Ive tried re-setting my screen profile, but Ive had people on other computers tell me that they can see the banding.
I've tried RGB vs CMKY..
I mean, I really am at an end. Most of my work is viewed digitally, but I do need it to look good in print.
I wouldn't waste your time, I have spent the last week all over the internet trying to find a solution. I would think that these simple gradients would be possible in such a high end program I paid hundreds for, but really?!
Im near tears because I mean, this is my art. I just hate that it looks so terrible.
I thank ANYONE for their help, this is becoming such an issue for me.

any updates on this?
I noticed the gorgeous tones on the splash screens too, and would like to reproduce that softness...
I get what JET is saying, but I get the banding too on even just 2 similiar tones less than 12 inches apart. But from what Jet is saying I assume he means that the screen visual is not the same as the printing outcome and does not indicate the printing outcome.
a cheap or poor screen may show banding, but printed to a 5 thousand dollar printer may come out smooth when the vector is rasterized at 300 DPI on an A4 page.
I have banding on a photoshop image here actually, but I have seen lots of artwork with smooth creamy gradients or tonal blends painted on figures in character artwork, pinups and illustrations, or how to recreate the look of the opening splash screens of the software, wish I knew how to do that, i`m using a wacom bamboo with low opacity and brush pressure determines opacity in photoshop.
here is a black to transparent gradient layed over a flat mid gray layer. 10cm long. just showing you that the screen banding is not specific to only illustrator. using PS CS5 here.
same issue goes for brushes, here I used the largest softest default brush to fill this shape, still creates streaking.

How do I prevent the Darker Shade Box (color shift) around Vector Objects when Printing

Sorry in advance for the novelette. I am absolutely mystified and frustrated and would love some help! I've been working on this problem for about 30 hours over the last 4 days to figure out what the heck is happening and cannot find an answer through various forms of research.
Basically, when I print a JPEG, I am getting this area (a box) of darker shaded coloring around my heart and love text. I've tested it a million different ways and am at a loss as to what the problem is ... is it an application problem, a color profile problem between my applications and printer, an improper way that I saved my file, etc.
Here is a photo I took of the image printed out (so it is slightly skewed from camera distortion):
The details:
(1) I create graphic art and sell it online. I save all of my printable art as JPEG files because of my customer base (diy hobbyists that print on their home printers without much knowledge base nor graphic design software).
(2) I use both Adobe Illustrator (AI) and Photoshop Elements 11 (PSE11) to design and save my artwork.
(3) I insert JPEG images into Microsoft Word 2003 documents to "test print" since most of my customers use home printers to print. Since most people have this basic software, it is a good gauge of the kind of print out they might get using the same or similar software.
(4) My PSE11 color profile setting is the default sRGB. I have test printed many times and I get the truest colors with this color profile.
(5) My AI color settings are normally also an sRGB color mode, but on occasion, I use a CMYK color mode if I am creating a larger document that I know the customer will need to take to a professional printer to print out.
(6) I do my home printing (for proofs) on an Epson Stylus Photo 1400 (which has the 6 color ink cartridges).
(7) Until this printing problem occurred on this test print out, I always used the "photo enhance" option when I designate settings for my printer via the Microsoft Word documents.
IMPORTANT: This is when I have the color shift?? or color rendering issues?? and it is the only time. If I use the regular ICM/ICC color profile of sRGB, the printing issue doesn't occur. Instead, I have a solid color background instead of this one with the strips of lighter color on the top and bottom. However, I can't control how the customer prints, so I need to feel confident that whatever color profile setting they use, they will not run into this problem. I even test printed the documents over at FedEx and the darker box/color shift did not occur.
(8) The document in question only has 3 sets of objects: the heart, the solid colored rectangle colored background and the text. All 3 objects are vectors, they are at 100% opacity and there are no "special effects" applied.
(9) The image was entirely created in AI this time and exported as a maximum quality JPEG file, although you will see below that I tried many ways to create and save the file so that I didn't have the color band borders on top/bottom.
(10) I regularly use AI for part of my art, then I drag it to my PSE11 open document and it becomes a Vector Object (it cannot by copying/pasting into a PSE11 document). I also regularly export AI images as PNG files, then insert them into an open PSE11 document. This printing issue has not occurred until recently. Here is an example of a very complex AI image I created, then inserted into PSE11 just to add the background (the Teddy Bear and books are AI vector objects) that were exported as PNG files then inserted into PSE11 to integrate with the background image - I test printed with Photo Enhance and had no printing issues:
So, from the research I have done, it looks like it is a color rendering or color space issue with conflicting color profiles in the same document. I checked my color profile settings and both sRGB and CMYK were set to embed ICC color profiles.
I tried changing AI settings to Preserve Numbers (ignore linked profiles) for CMYK, but that didn't work.
I also checked and made sure that not only the document setup showed the sRGB color profile, but that all the objects within the document also were converted to sRGB as well for consistency. That didn't work.
I tried converting the document to CMYK along with the vector objects. That didn't work.
I tried saving the heart image as a PNG file alone, the "love" text as a PNG file alone, both the heart and text together as a PNG files alone. Once saved as PNG files, I inserted them into an open empty PSE11 document - as I normally do. I then added the background color I wanted. That didn't work - the print still showed the color changes.
I tried dragging each vector object separately and even as a group and got the same color change issue when printing.
I tried "expanding" and "outlining" the text before exporting as JPEG, before exporting as a PNG and before dragging as a vector object into PSE11. Expanding the text did not help the situation.
I tried exporting as Adobe PDF, then opening in PSE11, then resaving as JPEG. That didn't work.
I tried flattening transparency (even though there is no transparency in the AI file). That didn't work.
I tried rasterizing the image. That didn't work.
Thinking that the file might be corrupt, I started from scratch and redesigned the same heart and love text. Unfortunately, I had the same problem as before. At this point, my AI started becoming buggy and would not open new files. It happened repeatedly and I decided it was best to uninstall and reinstall AI (and maybe that would fix the problem).
I created just the heart in AI, then inserted it into an open PSE11 document (both after exporting as PNG and also by dragging as Vector Object from AI). It seemed to work. I could both drag the vector into PSE11 from AI and export from AI as a PNG, then insert into open PSE11 document with a background color - and it printed a solid background.
So, I thought that reinstalling and setting back to defaults worked. But, then I added the love text around the heart and tried exporting as JPEG files and the same problem continued to recur. Whether I dragged as a Vector object into PSE11 (the heart object and love text separately and also another time with the vector objects dragged as a group) or saved them as PNG files and inserted into PSE11 - I got the different shades of color on what should be a solid background. I even tried saving the PSE11 as a PSD file first, then resaving as JPEG and I tried saving as PNG and printing and this didn't help solve the problem.
I really think it is some color conflict issue but I can't figure it out. I am definitely not very knowledgeable about color profiles and how to sync all my devices, however, as I mentioned, this was not an issue until recently (and I think??? I recall changing the CMYK setting from Preserve Numbers to embed color profile a month or so ago - however, it should have been solved when AI went back to its defaults upon reinstall).
The reason I believe it is a color rendering/color space issue is because I could see the color output when I saved the JPEG with CMYK color profile versus sRGB color profile and the sRGB colors were much richer, not surprisingly. The top and bottom colors matched the sRGB printout and the middle darker box section matched the CMYK printout.
I am sure it is something fundamental or simple and I am completely overlooking it. I wish it were just a transparency issue, because people know how to fix or do workarounds for it. But, there are no vector objects with any transparency ...
If I missed some detail, I apologize. Any help would be a dream come true at this point! lol
Thank you!

Okay, I got motivated to try again. From doing a bit more research on troubleshooting AI printing problems, the Adobe article talks about print drivers. It was advised to uninstall and reinstall the print driver if the printing issue persists. So, I did. Unfortunately, I still had the same result after reinstalling and trying a test print! Ugh.
So, as Jacob said upfront, I seem to have an overactive print driver that is trying too hard (and it is a non-postscript printer which I realize is part of the problem).
There are so many variables in my situation as to how I create art and save/export art. I sometimes work solely in AI, sometimes solely in PSE and sometimes I use both programs to create. Consequently, I will:
(1) export directly from AI as JPEG if I am not adding PSE11 artwork.
(2) export directly from AI as PNG if I plan on inserting that image into PSE11 to add to artwork I have created in PSE11.
(3) drag vector objects as a Smart Objects directly from AI to PSE11 to add to artwork I am creating in PSE11 if I know I will playing with the vector object and resizing in PSE11.
So, I did a test print using scenario 2, where I inserted the heart and love text PNG (AI created vector object) into an old PSE11 document. This old document already had a vector object from AI with a solid background and I knew it printed correctly. So, after inserting this new PNG from AI into this old document, it printed correctly using the photo enhance mode.
However, I haven't had a chance to actually create new art in the older AI files (that I know print properly), resave as something else and try another test print (either by exporting as JPEG and printing in Word or by exporting as PNG file and inserting into PSE11 document, then saving as JPEG and printing in Word).
After testing the different possibilities of ICM settings within my printer, I found that the JPEG images printed out with the truest colors and best quality if I simply selected "no color management" from the printer. Shocker, huh? lol
MY SOLUTION: So, what I think I will simply do is add an instruction sheet with the printables I sell, explaining that the color profile setting should never be handled by the printer so make sure to turn off color management by printer (and if they feel they must use the printer for color management, make sure the setting is sRGB since I embed that color profile in my JPEG's).
Edited to add: Since my issue was never about how I could print a successful image (I knew I could simply change the color profile settings), but rather about how to make sure that customers would get consistent and high quality print outputs of my digital images, this seems like the best approach.
I don't think I will every really know exactly why I am now getting color shifts in the "photo enhance" mode when I did not have this problem a couple months ago - applying the same methods of creating artwork. I was concerned that I was saving/exporting using incorrect or mismatched color settings or something of that nature. However, since I went through the process of making my color spaces the same for everything, and I still have issue, clearly that is not the culprit. The only thing I can do to solve the problem and it is a straightforward solution anyway -> is to educate the buyer on how to print successfully (don't use photo enhance! ha ha).
Thanks again to everyone who chimed in and offered advice!

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Graphics (especially color) on emails and attachments show up as BLANK spaces when printed out.
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its the equivalent of the old
patient says, " its hurts when i do *this* "
doctor replies," well, don't do that "
What do you mean "it may have worked" – did it or did it not?
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Hello All
I am managing to print out raw files fine after manipulating them in canons own software (Digital photo professional) but still getting bands when using PSE 7 raw converter? Any more advice?
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Do I have to save it as a JPEG first ? If so, what is the point in taking a RAW image in the first place if I am going to lose detail by converting it to a JPEG?
Sorry for all the questions
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Banding in gradients with Pavilion 22xi

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Thanks.

Looking at your PDF it's difficult to tell exactly what's happening. I've had banding problems, however, in similar situations passing Illustrator files through Photoshop to be converted to high-resolution JPEGs for a very specific printer. Essentially, the file looks fine in Illustrator and fine in Photoshop until one significantly raises the white levels. The banding which then appears is very similar to the banding which appears upon printing. Can you see the errors in your file before they're printed? Or, only after printing?
Here's a couple thoughts... save Illustrator file as hi-res PDF. Use CS4 High-Quality Print presets. Open in Photoshop, rasterize at 300dpi in PS's opening dialog box. Flatten and save as TIFF, etc. for printing. May solve the problem.
Another setting to experiment with which may do nothing (and may cause the sky to fall) is to check your presets for Color Settings. Try setting Conversion Options > Intent > to Perceptual. This may make some users howl as Relative Colorimetric is the default setting for many users. However, it's been said to me that Perceptual is the correct setting to avoid banding in images with large gradients.
For more information on the differences between the two, check out: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/color-space-conversion.htm
Regarding the lines around placed images, I haven't dealt with that one. You may want to open the images in Photoshop and make sure there isn't some colored trim left over from the cropping process. Provided that isn't the case, try re-placing them before saving to PDF and moving to Photoshop.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!

Banding in gradients and refresh failing

I have the stock GeForce4MX graphics card that came with this computer, and I think it might be going out. Not sure, but I bought a new 22" Chimei flatscreen and it has the same millions of colors and MHz as an Apple monitor I looked at. I calibrated the new screen but the contrast isn't quite right. Also, I'm getting banding in the gradient areas which is bad considering I'm a graphic designer. Plus I used to be able to play Pogo.com's Payday Freecell, but even before I got the flat screen, the refresh was dragging big time. I'd have to minimize the window to get it to clean up.
Anyone know if this sounds like the graphics card is failing? Any suggestions? Do I need to take the monitor back?

Looking at your PDF it's difficult to tell exactly what's happening. I've had banding problems, however, in similar situations passing Illustrator files through Photoshop to be converted to high-resolution JPEGs for a very specific printer. Essentially, the file looks fine in Illustrator and fine in Photoshop until one significantly raises the white levels. The banding which then appears is very similar to the banding which appears upon printing. Can you see the errors in your file before they're printed? Or, only after printing?
Here's a couple thoughts... save Illustrator file as hi-res PDF. Use CS4 High-Quality Print presets. Open in Photoshop, rasterize at 300dpi in PS's opening dialog box. Flatten and save as TIFF, etc. for printing. May solve the problem.
Another setting to experiment with which may do nothing (and may cause the sky to fall) is to check your presets for Color Settings. Try setting Conversion Options > Intent > to Perceptual. This may make some users howl as Relative Colorimetric is the default setting for many users. However, it's been said to me that Perceptual is the correct setting to avoid banding in images with large gradients.
For more information on the differences between the two, check out: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/color-space-conversion.htm
Regarding the lines around placed images, I haven't dealt with that one. You may want to open the images in Photoshop and make sure there isn't some colored trim left over from the cropping process. Provided that isn't the case, try re-placing them before saving to PDF and moving to Photoshop.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!

PhotoShop CS2 "Program Error" when printing

I am posting this to the Adobe Forums as well, but thought someone here might have some ideas. am having an intermittent problem printing from PhotoShop CS2 to an Epson 9800. When printing large files (200 MB average) to the Epson, PhotoShop will spool the job, taking about 50% longer than normal, and when complete, displays the following message..."The file XXXX.tif could not be printed because of a program error" No job ever gets to the print que. This happens about 80% of the time when printing. Quitting and restarting PhotoShop generally fixes the problem, and the file can be printed from another computer without issue, so this is not file specific. I have 8GB of RAM installed and PhotoShop running under 100% available memory, cache level at 8, with a dedicated 180GB scratch disk. Memory should NOT be the problem, though I do often have the full layered version of the file open in the background (I am printing from a flattened copy. I have observed that the problem is less likely to occur if no other files are open. I have a second G5 with the exact same software setup (OS, Print Driver and PhotoShop down to the decimal version #) that works perfectly every time. I have run all of the System utilities (Repair Permissions, FSCK, etc), reset the OSX printing system, reset PS preferences, trashed and re installed CS, as well as the Epson printer driver, all with no success. Any other trouble shooting ideas would be greatly appreciated. I would love to avoid a System reinstall.

See the Adobe Knowledge Base document"Error 'Could not complete your request...' or 'Could not create a new document...' (Photoshop CS2 on Mac OS X v10.4)"
I suggest whenever you have problems with third-party applications, the first place to start troubleshooting is with the application's documentation, then vendor's web site. Usually their sites have FAQs, lists of known bugs, or application-specific forums similar to these Discussions. Sometimes, unlike the Apple Discussions, the questions are even answered by employees of the vendor.
The document cited above was found in 10 seconds by searching the Adobe support site.
Good luck!
Dr. Smoke
Author: Troubleshooting Mac® OS X

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