Bank Sun Accounts

Hi,
I am trying to set up Automatic Payment Program for Vendor Payments. Where the sub accounts used in APP and how are they configured?
Thanks in advance
Kavita.

Hi,
Sub Accounts are also GL Accounts. They are like clearing Accounts for Banking transactions in APP.
The sequence of Business Process activity will be:
1. Checks are issued to Vendors. The entry posted will be:
     Dr. Vendor A/c.
     Cr. Clearing A/c. (Sub Account)
2. Check Encashed and updated in Ledger: After the Vendor encash the check, Bank will send the file to update the transactions occurred. The accounting entry will be:
    Dr. Clearing A/c. (Sub Account)
    Cr. Bank A/c.
In other words Bank Account gets debited after the actual encashment of the check.
Sub accounts are configured in transaction FBZP in the tab "Bank Determination"
Thanks
Murali.

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Dear Friends,
We have maintained the configuration for importing the electronic bank statement and we have tested and found that the entries are getting posted in the Bank Clearing Account. However, we have encountered a major issue, when we perform the automatic payment run, the value date gets updated in the Assignment Feild, whereas the users want this to be updated with the combination of "Document No. + Value Date".
Secondly, when we import the bank statement, in the multicash format, the posted entries in the Bank Clearing Account have the "Document Header Text" field updated in the Assignment Field coloumn, thus making it difficult to do automatic clearing of open items. In these entries also it is desired that the combination of Document No. relating to the item paid thru payment run plus the Value Date should get update so that the open items in debit and credit can be matched and cleared off automatically.
Your help would be highly appreciated in achiveing these objectives.
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"Open Item Managed" for Bank GL accounts

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Hi
The main Bank Account is the GL Account that is used for all the accounting transaction by default including the payment transactions. Bank Sub Account is used as a clearing account for payment transaction to track the payments that are not yet cleared by the bank. It would not make sense to make the main Bank account Open Item managed from accounting perspective. This account will come into picture when actual clearing happens and gets confirmed from the Bank.
It may not be an Audit related perspective.
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Automatic clearing bank GL accounts

hi friends,
we have a problem with automatic postings today we are getting bank statements
from the bank for the salaries payments we have made, Automatic clearing is happening when we are receiving the bank
statements it is clearing the bank clearing account but we want to clear another
GL account eg: wages account which we are doing manually today by a debit
entry on wages GL account and credit clearing account. friends how should this be possible automatically.
correct me if i framed the question rite?
its urgent!!!!
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charlie

Hi Vishal,
I have changed the sort key on Bank Sub Account to Amount in Local Currency.
When I am posting the payment document, the amount is getting populated in the Assignment Field.
But the problem is coming when I post the Bank Statement. I tried to post the Bank Statement through Batch (SM35) to see what is getting populated into the Assignment field. The assignment is getting populated from Header Text, which is differing from Amount in Local Currency.
If I change the manually to amount and post it, then it is clearing based on the clearing criteria set to amount in local currency. But this is not possible to change manually, as there could be number of items.
Could you please let me know me know at the time of posting of manual bank statement I should be able to populated the value mentioned in sort key i.e., amount in local currency, but not the Header Text.
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New functionality in ECC 6.0 for auto clearing of bank clearing account.

Is there any new functionality in ECC 6.0 for auto clearing of bank clearing account.
Regards,
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There no new functionality in ECC 6.0 for auto clearing of bank clearing account. Still you need to depend on Manual / Electronic bank statement to clear them.
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Can we directly debit into bank a/c without bank clearing account?

Hi expert,
Can we directly debit into bank a/c without go through the bank clearing account?
What is the effect bring to if ignore bank clearing account?
This is because want to reduce more step in deposit the cheque. Is that any body can help? Thank..
From :
Eric Tan

You can directly debit into the bank account. At the Payment Means, in the Checks tab you have the field for the G/L Account. By default you have the clearing acc., but you can change it to the one for the Bank Account.
If you deposit each check individually into the Bank Acc., but in practice you have a Deposit with several checks, once you have the Bank Statement you will have to match each Deposit with several deposits in B1. A little annoying.

G/L Account for Bank Clearing Account

Hi:
Quick question: when we post TBB1, Treasury creates payment requests (table PAYRQ) with entries in field BKHBK, data element PRQ_BKHBK. This field is normally empty and F111 should pickup corresponding GL account from T042Y (FBZP: Bank Determination). But in our case, because Treasury passes this account during TBB1, it's being picked up and conflicting with T042Y.
So my question is: how do I deactivate Treasury to not pass this account to payment request? Or how do I change it's value within treasury so it would match with Bank Determination value?
This field in PAYRQ is called G/L Account for Bank Clearing Account.
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JS

Yes, it does not post to GL but it does identify Bank Clearing GL account when it's posted which is recorded at BKHBK field of PAYRQ. F111 gets 'confused' and throws error message when this value does not match with corresponding entry in T042Y. How to deactivate it?
Other way of solving this problem would be if I can identify separate Gl account for incoming and outgoing payments bank clearing account. I know it's defined in Account Determination (table TRACV_ACCSYMBREP). It's Account Symbol 3 (Bank Clearing). There we have masked GL account as "++++3". This account is used for clearing of incoming payments. And for outgoing payments we use "++++5"
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JS
Edited by: JSmithYahiya on Jan 19, 2012 5:46 PM

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Currently, our company is one company code to one bank account and one bank account use by different profit centers ( Bussines Units) . Our reporting ( Balance Sheet / Profit & Loss ) is by Profit Center Level.
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Avinya,
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I am trying to complete the manual bank statement however during posting of differenty transaction type it does not post to desired bank clearing account.
Where does this bank clearing account set-up for automatic determination when a certain house bank and transaction type is used.
Hope anyone will reply.
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Marivic

hi,
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hi
check following
1. Check in OMWD, whether Valuation grouping code "0001" ia ssigned to Ur plant
2. OBYC - If you have assigned GR/IR Clearing A/c to WRX then check whether you have maintained it with combination of valuation class and GL A/c
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Error in service entry sheet
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http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/sap-acct/grir-clearing-account-wrx-doesnt-recover-gl-account-2224137?cv=expanded
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Which Bank Clearing Account should be assigned to account symbol

Hi Friends,
I have 2 bank clearing accounts , CHECKS OUT ( 113005) AND CHECKS IN (113006) .
For the GL account assignment to account symbol, which bank clearing account should be used. I ask because only one bank clearing account GL can be assigned to the account symbol 3. Dont i have to use different GL for BUY & SELL spot transactions.
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kamala

Hi Kamala,
You have to assign your both clearing account 113005 and 113006 to account symbol.
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Bank sub account line item still showing as a open item after down payment

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1) i created a dwnpymt req using TCODE:f_37
2) created dwnpymt for dwmpymt req using TCODE:F-29
3) created customer invoice using Tcode:F-22
4) clear dwnpyment req against invioce using TCODe:F-39
now my question is when i create dwn pyment i used bank subaccount(cheq rec) to debit and customer to credit
so after i cleared dwnpymt with invoice. the bank sub account line item still showing as a open item .
why?
i appreaciate your usefull inputs
thanq.

Hi
I hope you will be running manual or electronic bank statement at your company.
The bank sub account that has been posted gets cleared when you run manual or electronic bank statement.
Let me explain you in detail
The entry that got posted during the down payment received from Customer--
Check Receipt A/C Debit
Customer A/C Credit
When you run the manual or electronic bank statement the entry gets posted as
Main Bank A/C Debit
Check Receipt A/C Credit there by clearing the open item from the Check Receipt A/C.
Hope this helps you in understanding how the open item in Check Receipt A/C gets cleared.
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Hari

Bank Clearing account

Dear Friends,
I have a situation and would truely appreciate your help and points will be awarded. Receipt from a vendor is getting posted in a 11306015 which is a clearing account instead of 11306010 which is the <b>confirmed cash account</b> attached to the Bank Account in FI12. When i checked the document i found out that 11306010 got credited and 11306015 is a debited. Can any ody explain f the process is right or wrong. Which i believe is wrong, as receipt in the bank account by eletronic statement should sit in 11306010 not 11306015. And also let me know how to correct it. The Bank account is a foreign currency account and the user says -this situation happens only when the currency is not USD or Euro.
Any help friends !
Regards
Rashmi

Hi,
Settings for Manual BRS also same like EBS.. only thing here we will give our own business transactions..
All bank GL Accounts should have masking logic.. eg: 230101 is for main bank 230201 is for Incoming Check 230301 is for Outgoing check .. this is only for one bank like that we have to define for others as well.
In the House bank we will tag Main bank account.
Go to IMG --> FI --> Bank Accounting -->Payment Transactions --> Manual Bank Statement - Create and Assign Business Transactions
Here we have to define business transactions like...
Transaction types eg: Z001 - Outgoing cheques -ve indicator Posting rule z001 - enter text
Got to second node: Define Posting Keys and Posting Rules for Manual Bank Statement
Here we have to define all 4 steps
Above masking logic will helpful here
1. create account symbols eg:ZOutgoing checks ... and Main Bank
2. Assign accounts to account symbols (Here we have to assign all bank accounts to account symbols)
Acc.Mod: Put + Currency+ If the GL Lenght is 6 .. We have to enter GL Account like this --> XXXX2303XX so up to 99 gl accounts we can masking rule...
3.Create posting rule eg:z001 outgoing checks
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Through above steps we have to follow for other transactions...
Thanks,
Padmaja

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I had set up bank clearing account as open item management and as part of bank reconsilation procoess am clearing the my bank sub account with the assumption that my payment have been processed by bank and my bank account have been deducted.
While processing my sub account with transaction f.13,am getting an error message "No G/L account documents selected".
Could someone advice why am getting this error.
greatly appreciated.
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Hi,
Settings for Manual BRS also same like EBS.. only thing here we will give our own business transactions..
All bank GL Accounts should have masking logic.. eg: 230101 is for main bank 230201 is for Incoming Check 230301 is for Outgoing check .. this is only for one bank like that we have to define for others as well.
In the House bank we will tag Main bank account.
Go to IMG --> FI --> Bank Accounting -->Payment Transactions --> Manual Bank Statement - Create and Assign Business Transactions
Here we have to define business transactions like...
Transaction types eg: Z001 - Outgoing cheques -ve indicator Posting rule z001 - enter text
Got to second node: Define Posting Keys and Posting Rules for Manual Bank Statement
Here we have to define all 4 steps
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1. create account symbols eg:ZOutgoing checks ... and Main Bank
2. Assign accounts to account symbols (Here we have to assign all bank accounts to account symbols)
Acc.Mod: Put + Currency+ If the GL Lenght is 6 .. We have to enter GL Account like this --> XXXX2303XX so up to 99 gl accounts we can masking rule...
3.Create posting rule eg:z001 outgoing checks
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