BAPI to build target group for segments

Hi all,
I looking for a BAPI that builds target group for segments and not for profile sets.
Transaction CRMD_MKTSEG allows to create TG in two ways :
- Build for Profile SET
- Build for Selected segment
BAPI_TARGETGROUP_CREATE is like u201CBuild for Profile SETu201D, since it requires a profile set guid as input
I have not found anything to u201CBuild for Selected segmentu201D, putting as input only a Profile.
The reason is that I need to "refresh" every day the target group and it is possible only if I create a TG for segment and not for profile set. In this second case the TG is frozen and no more refreshable,
Thanks.
regards
Emanuele

Hi Emanuele,
There are three types of Segments:- Profile Sets, Target Groups, Profiles.
(You can check this yourself:- Go inside Find segments, then choose Advanced Search. You will get option to find Marketing Segments based on whether they are Profile sets or Target Groups or Profiles )
It means Profile Sets is also a type of Segment. So i am bit confused with your question.
If i understand your question correctly, you simply want to create a target group which should be refreshed automatically on a daily basis.
You can very well achieve this daily refresh by building the Target Group in Background Mode. While creating a Target Group there are two modes possible :- 1)Build Target Group in Dialog Mode 2)In Background Mode.
So u need to build your Target group in background mode and While creating the Target Group in Background mode:-
Select the Checkbox "Active"
Do not select the checkbox "Modelling Completed".
Hope this helps in resolving your issues.
rgrds,
Randhir

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