Barton 3000

I have been running the Barton for about a month now,
system stable as can be, installed and runs like a dream.
All my benches went up obviously, system very cool but that may be a lie as I am using Bios 3.4, looks good though.
I have a backup SLK 800 ready to go in at moments notice, not convinced I need to mess with now though.
I have not done the wire trick but upped to fsb to 175, no bigge with stock 6.5 volts with modest gains.
I Blew my speaker system out when upped so I reverted back to stock, I'm sure that had nothing to do with it but getting tired of RMA'ing. I since have received a complete replacement and keep the sound down some.
I had the XP2700 before my plans of unlocking the Mul failed and wire trick bent the prong and made a key chain out of it, I have pretty much run stock till I get the nerve up again. It's getting summer and my winter hobby is ending with computer building and moving towards riding my motorcycle instead of staying indoors. Next winter will bring newer faster horizons and time for better products to hit the market, I pretty much will leave well enough alone for awhile.
I like my system too much to kill it again. however at the end of the season I may go for it with all the tricks I will and am picking up.
I would definently buy an XP3000 Barton again. I got a good deal last month at $340.00 the price had gone down some.

last night I was fastest but after trying all the Bios to O/C my machine started loosing it, I couldn't regain the preformance I had.
I tried everything.....couldn't even boot by 5 hours later.
Well I went to find some double stick tape to afix the Heat sink on the videocard better as I didn't think it was held properly.
I couldn't find any, I looked at the new videocards while out and there was crap on the shelves. Radon 9000,Nvidia 5200, no way not yet, waiting for the next generation.
had memtest running the whole time away. 2 hours OK
I could not get the beast to 11.5x195 without random rebooting and erros at startup. Dam I hate when that happens.
I decided to go back and undid the wire trick and also changed my heat sink back to the Volcano 9 as it sits much better on the processor than the SLK800, big bulky and a pain in the rear to clip. I noticed the from the marks on the bottom of the heat sink that it was not sitting level.
That is the first SLK 800 as now they use the mounting holes and a base as this one has the triple clamp. I will have to modify it if I want to use it so it can sit level and be supported as it is narrow in the center and doesnot rest on the pads, scratches show that something else was hitting it. Back to the Volcano 9 at low speed 4100 rpm. system temps at 34C.
Now I am back on 13x but upped fsb to 177 for a very stable machine again.
I got the system up and running fast as I could stable then overclocked the videocard slightly 300/602 to get a liveable 3Dmark 2001 mark of 14400.
System is more responsive just upping the fsb and leaving the mult alone at 13. No issues , no wierd unexplainable MHZ readings. 1300?
So the whole in a nut shell is just up the fsb and don't bother lowering the mult as the system runs almost as fast as 11.5x195 with video O/C 320/652 145003D marks.
System much happier leaving the mults alone for me.
Staying with Bios 3.4, less problems for me.
System stable, Had me worried there for a minute with no boot situation all afternoon.
Next years motherboard will definently be an overclocker as this one is not user friendly. Almost had to get next years sooner than expected.
Leaving well enough alone I learned my overclocking lesson for the week.
Happy computing

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  • KT3 Ultra 2R + Barton 3000+

    Hi all..
    Hope someone can help.
    I have a KT3 Ultra 2R board with the following stats:
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    CoolerMaster HHC-001 heatpipe H/sink with 80mm fan
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    2 x 100 ATA Maxtor Viper 80Gb HDD's with 8Mb cache each in striped RAID array
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    Audigy S/card
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    Lite-on CD/DVD
    2 x 512Mb Corsair XMS 3000 DDR Ram (333 and above) with aluminium heat spreaders
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    The Problem:
    This system worked fine with an Athlon XP 2200 CPU and I read MSI's CPU support list and saw the KT3 Ultra 2 6380E supported the Barton XP 3000+ CPU's so I bought one.  :P
    At first I had trouble booting on the 5.7 version bios, with the lock ups throught the bootup process. I reset the bois to the defaults and slowly worked up the settings using the recommendations in the forums.
    At the moment, the system will boot up with fast command set to normal, no agressive DDR timings, 1T command disabled, fastwrite disabled, agp read/write disabled and SDRAM set to SPD (HCLK).
    My 3DMark01 & 3DMark03 scores are lower than when I had the XP 2200 CPU installed and the SiSoft sandra results are the equivalent of a Athlon 2000. MSI says the board supports the Barton 3000+, but at what cost ???  :O
    The system is very unstable and and requires on average 3 boots to boot up successfully. The 3DMark03 test often locks up mid way.
    Any help or the settings MSI or you used to achieve their results would be VERY helpful. Please Help... ;(

    I have had a similar problem running my kt3 ultra2 (non raid) at 166 fsb. In mid april I bought a 2600+ 166 fsb athlon to upgrade my system from a 1.2 ghz athlon. I bought some new pc2700 crucial ram to go along with the processor. I had also recently bought a radeon 9700 pro in late march, and a 1.2 athlon would just be a waste of this great vid card. I had been running fine with the radeon and the 1.2 athlon with the msi 5.7 bios and 4.43 via 4-in-1's.
    I battled this problem for weeks. I bought a new antec 550 watt PSU, corsair xms 3200 ram, and new antec tower case trying to find out if the problem was ram, power or heat. I should also note that turning on spread spectrum helped a little in stability. Setting it to .50% made it stable in windows and games, but the computer would not turn on if shutdown unless I cleared the cmos. No setting besides this had any effect on stability. Even conservative ram timings. I was about to buy an Asus a7n8x when I realized that I had once run my old cpu and ram at 166 fsb when I had the 5.6 bios a couple of months back. I did not keep it like that in fear of damaging the ram while overclocked.
    So I reflashed to 5.6 which still supported the 2600+. That finally worked almost perfectly, although I still have to keep spread spectrum at .25% to be stable (which is odd, people say that is supposed to hurt stability). So in my situation, it was the bios that was faulty. I have had some very ramdom crashes to the desktop (3 of them) in games and one hardlock with a blank bluescreen in unreal2. This is over a span of a month. So it is not perfect. It might be the display drivers causing this, which I have recently upgraded, or I might need to back off my ram timings which are at 2-2-2-5 which this ram can handle easily at 166. 3dmark has yet to crash. Prime 95 passed when I ran it for 30 minutes. Im going to run prime 95 today and see if it will run for like 12 hours stable. Im still looking into getting a new nforce 2 mobo, however (abit or asus).
    I hope this helps your situation, you should give it a try. Although, the 5.6 bios does not support the 3000+. It might still work, it will maybe just not show up as a 3000+ in the bios, but as a 2.17 Athlon XP.
    I think MSI should be made aware of this possible 5.7 bios fsb instability. Why spread spectrum seems to be related in my situation, is really odd also.

  • Lack of Ghz KT3 Ultra2 Barton 3000+

    Dont want to sound like a broken record but I aswell am having problems with my newly purchased Barton 3000+ (400 fsb) with my MSI KT3 Ultra2. The problem is that whenever I try to set the FSB to the correct level, the computer fails to boot and I have to jump the cmos. I updated my bios to ver 5.7, and the highest i can get is to a 2400+
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    I don't know for sure, but aren't there two different types of Barton's being sold. One with a FSB 333 and one with 400 ?
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    Maybe you can just replace the CPU where you bought it ?
    Iscaran

  • BIOS Settings Problem on KT3 Ultra2 MS-6380E with Barton 3000+(FSB333)

    Well, I finally got my Barton 3000+ with 333 MHz FSB and installed it yesterday in my MSI KT3 Ultra2 Mainboard....
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    So that should make up 400 W as far as I know, my total System drain should be around 300-350 W so even if it would not suffice 400 W it should run the system ?
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    Then I went into BIOS and raised the FSB to 166 MHz, which should be the correct one, or do I have to put 167 MHz in there (since 166.666666 MHz is rounded to 167)?
    Then I exited and watched the restart...but it didn't start-up it only got me 3 long beeps at the HOST.
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    CPU: AMD XP 3000+  FSB 100 MHz
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    NOW...
    ...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
    Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
    Since my system before was running on "Ultra" with my old AMD XP 2100+.
    There is only one more thing I noticed, the CPU V-Core is shown to be only 1.616 V (setting on "Auto" but it should be 1.65 V ? Should I increase the V-Core to 1.675 V in order to get closer to 1.65 V or shouldn't I worry about ?
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    Iscaran

    Iscaran, you are indeed correct in the statement which you made
    Quote
    ...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
    This setting can be set to fast/ultra on the KT3 Ultra2 when using PC2100 ram running at 266. However, when using PC2700 ram running at 333, this setting MUST be set to normal for the satisfactory operation of the board. I know that you have PC3200 ram actually installed but it is only running at 333.
    Quote
    Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
    Yes, absolutely normal
    Quote
    There is only one more thing I noticed, the CPU V-Core is shown to be only 1.616 V (setting on "Auto" but it should be 1.65 V ? Should I increase the V-Core to 1.675 V in order to get closer to 1.65 V or shouldn't I worry about ?
    How are you measuring this ie Bios or o/s utility? Not unknown that these are incorrect. However, if you feel unhappy about this, try setting the V-core manually to 1.65v and check what this gives.
    Quote
    So 3.3 V x 22 A gives 72.6 W, that could be really a little cutting the edge. Could that cause the board to not respond when setting the "CPU Fast Command" to "Ultra" ?
    Getting a more powerful psu will not likely cure this well documented problem.
    However, this board mostly draws power from the 3.3 & 5v rails. The 12v is mostly used to power HDD, optical and fans. When you consider that 128Mb of ram draws about 8-10w from the 5v rail and you have a total of 1.5Gb that adds up to 96-120W of juice just for the memory alone. This board will beep at you at o/s level when it's running underpowered but my opinion is the same as osnavi's your 3.3v & 5v rails are too low. Also what is combined 3.3v & 5v wattage. What kind of reading do you get on monitoring utilities.
    By the way I have as you can see from my dets below the same board and cpu as you and when I changed from a XP2000 Palomino with PC2100 ram to XP3000 Barton and PC3200, I changed the 'Fast Command' setting from 'Fast' to 'Normal'
    Hope this helps, enjoy the board

  • [KT3 Ultra2-R / PSU] Upgrading to Barton 3000+

    Hi!
    I'm thinking about upgrading from my 2200+ to a Barton 3000+ chip. Is there any problems with this? Is my PSU good enough to handle the upgrade?
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    Quote
    Originally posted by Sharp
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    Quote
    Originally posted by Sharp
    You should not mix ram as it can cause problems, even if it is the same model/make. The revision must be the same.
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    Quote
    Originally posted by Sharp
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  • Wots the deualt vcore fot the barton 3000+

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    i have noticed that my vcore is now 1.850 im pretty sure on my old board it was 1.65 or somthing lower than 1.85 wots up with this.
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    Quote
    Originally posted by NINJMNKY
    The default voltage for the barton 3000+ 333FSB is 1.65
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  • KT3 ultra2 with amd barton 3000+ problems

    Ok so I upgraded from a 1800+ to a barton 3000+, and im having problems running the chip. Iv set the fsb to 166, the ram to HCLK, tried running with just one stick, it runs for about 5min then restarts. Any ideas?
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    Well if you purchased an Athlon XP 3000+ which is a 400mhz chip and are trying to run it at 333mhz instead of 400mhz that might be the issue aside from the fact that the KT3 Ultra2 does not support that chip so it could also be a bios issue.
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  • MSI KT4V and Barton 3000+ crash problem

    Hi all!
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    Best Regards
    Basse

    Hi Osnavi!
    48 degrees is an idle temp and about 51 stressed.
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  • K7N2G-ILSR MS-6570 barton 3000 support?

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    According to MSI's CPU support page the K7N2G-ILSR does officially support the XP3000+ Barton with 333Mhz FSB but not 400Mhz FSB. If 400Mhz FSB support is important to you you may want to consider as an alternative the K7N2 Delta-ILSR which should be available shortly (end of the month?). Details here of CPU support:-
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  • KT6 & Barton 3000+ - report wrong cpu?

    Hi,
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    if less than that then yes

  • Upgrading from 2000+ to 3000+

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  • 3000+ is it unlocked

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    Quote
    Originally posted by scooter787b
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  • System instability with 3000+ and Mega 180

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    He didn't say directly; however, he did allude to the fact that a lot of instability issues were caused by the ram settings in the bios.  I would venture to guess the auto detect function for the ram in the bios works with the supported ram manufacturers, but my ram is made by SpecTek... had to go on their site and get the values from a pdf... and then the values are in nanoseconds instead of clock cycles like the bios requires so I'll have to convert those values somehow... what I did do was play around with the values and bump the delay from 2.5 to 3 and that seemed to fix the stability issue...  this helps in the meantime before I figure out the exact value for each ram setting in the bios.. at least it doesn't restart anymore!

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