Basic 24" iMac 2.8GHz (Penryn) Captures HDV As ProRes In Real Time.

It's OK I'm not claiming any records.
It's just that I have been reading a lot about capturing ProRes from HDV and there are lots of warnings that capture will lag behind real time even with PowerMacs etc.
I was therefore pleasantly surprised to find that my unmodified iMac captured everything in Real Time even though I had 5 other apps open at the same time.
People often ask whether an iMac is suitable for FCP. This in no way is a definitive answer but it does suggest the iMac is certainly no slouch!

Ian R. Brown wrote:
People often ask whether an iMac is suitable for FCP. This in no way is a definitive answer but it does suggest the iMac is certainly no slouch!
Fantastic, Ian!!
Love the photos and I'll wager that pig was awesome. I'm a lifelong carnivore/omnivore and can't imagine a day without bacon.
Yeah, the iMac. No one here has ever doubted it's processing capabilities at all. Where the iMac lacks is with it's abject lack of expansion beyond it's firewire ports and if one goes into that limitation eyes wide open, then there is no reason at all one can't be productive with an iMac.
For whatever it's worth, I'm too timid to capture video with any other application save FCP working.
Zeb

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I read this fine tutorial on Moviola on the technique of Capturing HDV Into ProRes Via FireWire.
http://moviola.com/hdv_prores
Since you can choose ProRes 422 (LT) as an option in the Log and Transfer window, I was wondering if there is a way to capture HDV to ProRes 422 (LT) via firewire like in the above mentioned article.
I tried creating a custom capture setting in the AV Settings, but ProRes 422 (LT) was not available as an option, only ProRes 422 and ProRes 422 (HQ). And those settings cannot be edited or duplicated (grayed out).
I don’t know why ProRes 422 (LT) is available in the Log and Transfer window but not in the AV Settings window. Maybe it will become available in an update.
In the meantime, does anyone know a way to get around this? Maybe modifying an FCP file somewhere?
Thanks,
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Richard

HDV is recorded to tape inside of the camera as digital information. Component coming out of the camera is analog. The camera is performing the first conversion D/A, from HDV (digital) to component out (analog).
Component going into the ioHD is analog. The ioHD then converts via its hardware to Prores (any flavor), which is digital. The ioHD has to convert the analog from the component outs of my camera to digital for use in FCP. FCP only uses digital video.
You said "The IOHD internally converts to ProRes.." converts to ProRes is the second A/D conversion.
So the path is D/A/D. I count that as two conversions, camera D/A as one the ioHD A/D as two.
I don't want to unnecessarily convert from digital to analog to digital which is why I don't use the ioHD to convert from HDV to Prores (any flavor).
Unfortunately I don't have any digital outs for this camera, neither HDMI or HD SDI.
I believe capturing and converting HDV to ProRes via firewire in FCP doesn't have this D/A/D conversion which is why I'd like to be able to capture HDV to ProRes LT via firewire in FCP and stay digital all the way, with no analog conversions.
I use the ioHD for all of my analog to digital conversions. It's a great box from a great company.
Thanks,
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Capturing in the HDV-Apple ProRes 422 Preset

I am trying to capture some HDV footage in Final Cut 7 using the HDV-Apple ProRes 422 preset. However, when I go to log and capture after changing the audio/visual settings, the program immediately asks me to enter a file name and then jumps right into a capture now rather than bringing up the usual log and capture screen.
Has anyone else run into this problem, and if so, have any solutions to fixing it? This is the first time I have used this capture preset, so there may be a step or setting I am accidently skipping.
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If you are capturing HDV as ProRes, this is normal. This is the only case that this happens like this. Only with a capture card can you get the normal Log and Capture window. Converting one format to another via firewire...typically requires a card. This is a special case.
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/poisson_chris/hdv-prores.php
Shane

Can't capture HDV from Sony z1 on FCP 7

Hi,
I have set 'easy setup' to HDV (I have also tried HDV Fire wire basic) I've followed tutorial on all the set ups to capture. But when I go to capture, FCP can control the play buttons and I can see the time code on screen but there is no picture or sound coming through to capture and is says 'Capture was aborted due to no incoming data from device'.
I have checked everything.
I followed all the suggestions in an older discussion in this forum -
Unable to capture HDV footage with FCP 5.1
This was the last post in that discussion:
"Re: Unable to capture HDV footage with FCP 5.1
May 23, 2010 4:37 PM (in response to MrMajesticMole)
I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who was having the same problem as you. Although you say the camera playback is set properly, please recheck this. go into your camera's playback menu>menu>standard set>VCR HDV/DV. Unplug your firewire from the camera. Make sure camera is set to HDV NOT auto. replace firewire cable. Now open FCP. Go in Audio/video settings>A/V devices (farthest tab on right). In box for playback edit to tape different from video output (make sure it's checked) mirrored (checked) Video playback 1080i50, Audio HDV. I hope that works now."
I followed all these tips and nothing has changed. This is the first time I am using HDV in FCP. I have used the same Sony z1 camera to shoot and capture DV footage in my current FCP set up and I've had no problems.
The only wierd thing is that under easy set up I selected HDV first with 'all rates' under frame rate. When that didn't work I tried "HDV fire wire basic". Then I tried to put the frame rate in a 50fps. When nothing made any difference I put the frame rate back to all frame rates and while still on Format: HDV selected HDV 1080i50 and also have tried HDV 1080i50 with 'all frame rates' and everythime I go back, it's defaulted to 'HDV 720p50' in the 'use box and frame rate 50fps.
I would really appreciate help with this.

Hi Russ,
Thanks for getting back so quickly.
I was feeling hopeful because I realised I had the fps rate set to 50 and when you said 25fps I thought that must be it. Unfortunatly it hasn't worked at all. It keeps saying there's no data incoming data from device, yet it acknowledges the timecode and I can control the camera from FCP.
I double checked my settings and made sure the camera was on before launching FCP. I am going to study the document you included to see if there is anything else I am doing that isn't working. I am wondering if there are some audio settings mucking it up.
If you have any other thoughts let me know. I will let you know if I figure it out.
Cheers,
Carolyn

Capture HDV without Final Cut?

I am on a shoot in a country that is known for confiscating tapes. Therefore, I need to have a backup of everything I shoot. Unfortunately, my plan of using a Firestore FS-4 failed when it broke 4 days into my shoot. My Mac does not have Final Cut on it and I can't find a way to download it. Is there any way to capture HDV with a program other than Final Cut?

Sorry no.
I am surprised when you say iMovie captures at 1/8 speed.
I haven't tried it with AIC but I have tested FCE and my iMac was able to capture in realtime.
I can't see why iMovie should be so slow. Even if you have a very old, slow computer it shouldn't take more than 30% longer than realtime.
Have you been using iMovie 08? The much more "professional" iMovie 06 can be downloaded free here:-
http://support.apple.com/downloads/iMovieHD6

Capturing HDV and DV

I have successfully captured HDV footage I filmed on my camera, but now I am trying to capture DV footage shot on a different camera and only the video portion will capture.
There is audio on the DV tape and when I play it directly from the camera I can hear it, but it just doesn't come across to FCP like it does when I captured the HDV tape.
Can you offer any suggestions on how I can capture the DV video/audio?
Many thanks!

Make sure the audio check box is checked in the Clip Setting tab. And try changing the device control to another NTSC firewire setting in the Capture Setting tab. (NTSC Firewire Basic)
What camera or deck are you using? IF this is an HDV device make sure you properly reset the firewire to DV.
Good Luck
Z1

Capture HDV Disk requirements for HDV 60i Frame Rate

As a general rule, how much disk space is needed to capture HDV recorded in 60i mode which is 60fps interlaced (same as TV signal) frame rate? Any clues appreciated. Thank you.
iMac 1.83Ghz Intel Core Duo Mac OS X (10.4.8) Canon XLH1 HDV Camcorder

Matthew just posted in another topic that 1hr of HDV video uses about 22GB of storage space.
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Unable to capture HDV in FCP 6.0.1 from Sony HVR-Z1P

Hi I'm attempting to capture HDV footage from a Sony Z1.
I am trying to capture some HDV footage I shot with the Z1, but FCP simply refuses to recognize the Z1
I'm certain I've got all the settings correct:
- Camera is set to HDV firewire out
- capture presets is set to HDV
- device control preset is set to Sony HDV FireWire
- sequence preset is set to HDV 1080i50 (I'm in Australia)
- footage IS HDV 1080i50
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- rebooted the system
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Nothing has worked.
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Matt
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Message was edited by: Matt Blyth

Thanks Adrian, since posting the thread I've thought of that too but unfortunately to no avail. From other forums I've read this seems to be a central theme to the solution to my capture woes. I since have sorted the problem it was in Audio/Video Settings.
In the end I set my Audio/Video Settings to:
Sequence Preset to: Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i50
Capture Pre-HDV- Apple intermediate Codec
Device Control Preset: Sony HDV 1080i50 Firewire
And hey presto my I'm capturing HD without any problems. Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
Message was edited by: Matt Blyth

Unable to capture HDV with Sony HDR-FX1 in FCE 4

Hello all,
Been using an HDR-FX1 for a while, shooting mostly DV, and today I began experimenting with HDV. I shot 8 minutes of footage with the camera in HDV mode.
When I setup FCE 4 for Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i60, the capture window doesn't recognize the camera. However, if I set the FX1 to down convert to DV via firewire, FCE recognizes the camera and I'm able to capture.
How do I (or can I) capture HDV into FCE 4 with the FX1? Is there something (a setting perhaps) that I'm missing? Do I need to jump to FC Pro for this?
My system: 1.6 GHz PowerPC G5 (tower), 2 GB RAM, Sony FX1, FCE 4.0, QT 7.3.1
Thanks in advance,
tg

I had a similar issue with iMovie08 import using HDR-HC1... You may want to try this to see if it helps:
1> Close the import app (FCE, in your case)
2> Unplug the FW cable from the camcorder (Most important step)
3> Go into the Sony menu and re-select the HDV settings (explicit HDV, not Auto + Conv off) in the camcorder
4> Re-connect the FW cable, and restart FCE
I use these steps successfully while switching between HDV and DV imports from my camcorder using iMovie 08. Hopefully, this resolves your problem with FCE. Later this weekend, I plan to experiment (for the first time) with FCE HDV import to try and see the export quality difference between FCE and iM08 (which apparently downconverts everything to 540 lines!).

FCP 5.0 crash when trying to capture HDV. Happens since running w LEOPARD

I migrated FCS from a G5 1.8 GHz powerPC to a Mac Pro Intel 2.66 GHz. Also I upgraded to Leopard. Now when I set FCP to capture HDV, it quits unexpectedly when I try launch the log and capture tool.
The same thing is happening with FCP in the G5, however, this doesn't happens when I try to capture other formats.
Also when I try to work with HDV media that was captured before the migration (the media is in an external La Cie HD) FCP works slowly and the canvas is green. This is happening in both the Mac Pro and the G5.
In the Mac Pro I have set Quicktime to Rosetta hoping to solve the problem but it persist.
With the G5 I have never had a problem to capture HDV until now that I have done the migration and have upgraded to Leopard.
Have already reinstalled FCS, trashed FCP preferences... What else can I do ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!

Was your install of Leopard clean? i.e. did you erase a disk and reinstall from the ground up? If not that's probably what needs to happen...
Jerry

HELP! No longer able to capture HDV in FCP 6

I had a seamless FCP workflow using my Canon XH-A1 and FCP 6. I always connect my camera and power it up first before starting FCP. My settings were perfect, then about a week and a half ago FCP would no longer capture HDV from the camera. I tried redoing the easy setups: HDV > HDV:1080i60. Then I tried all the other variations. I tried trashing the preferences and restarting my computer and all that. Then I tried to see if Toast 10 would recognize the HDV camera to capture... no. But all works fine when set to DV mode. Everything about this situation seemed to have pointed to the fault being with my camera, so I sent it off to canon to check it out ($$$). Today I borrowed a friends Sony HDV that has worked fine before and it too failed. FCP is not recognizing the HDV camera. In an act of desperation, I installed iMovie and opened it up, I connected the camera... wth, it works!?! I am now convinced that there is something not right with FCP. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!!!

I figured out the problem!!! It was "Rosetta". Hopefully this issue will help someone else in the future!
When I upgraded to Intel Mac Pro from G5, many plugins were not supported. About a month and a half ago I opened an older project of mine and had problems rendering some vital sequences with several plugins from the G5. After going through every plugin I had and reinstalling them one by one, many plugins still would not work. My solution was to use Rosetta with FCP...
I had not captured any HDV media since turning Rosetta on for FCP, and I guess forgot it was even on. I clicked on the FCP App and hit "command + i" for info, unchecked Rosetta, and instantly my HDV is capturing perfect again!
I wish I could use an abundance of prolific and explicit vocabulary words to express knuckleheadedness of my inability to not figure this out sooner...
ROSETTA was the CULPRIT of this issue!

FCP unexpectedly quits when I try to capture HDV footage

I'm trying to capture HDV footage shot on the Canon XHA1 and my FCP unexpectedly quits every time. I've used this type of footage and camera before with no issues.
I've trashed the preferences, tried setting the scratch disk to an external drive and on the hard drive.
I'm not sure what to try next?
Do i have to re-install?
anything would help!
Thanks

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Capturing HDV footage with incorrect timecode

Rookie mistake. I started shooting a new project on my brand new canon xh-a1s, and in the excitement I forgot to stripe my first few tapes. And it being a film project I've been constantly using the playback to look at the takes I just did. So what's happened is I don't have a nice clean 0;00;00 to 1;04;00 timecode on all the tapes, rather there are frequent spots on the tapes when it's started a new timecode at 0;00;00. So when I capture my footage into premiere pro cs3, it gets confused and either drastically unsyncs the audio or repeats the same 4 seconds of sound through the whole clip.
Oddly enough when you play the captured footage outside of premiere, in windows media player say, it looks and sounds fine. But premiere chokes on it everytime I import it or capture it.
Right now I've managed to capture successfuly going clip at a time with the capture now function, and staring at the timecode waiting to hit stop just when it gets to a new timecode. Sometimes I hit stop on time and it captures cleanly, sometimes I don't and it doesn't sync or skips the audio. But obviously trying to go through 8 hours of footage this way is an arguous, unreliable, and incredibly time consuming process. Logging clips doesn't work either because it never seems to stop the capture on time to save the clip.
Does anyone have any suggestions as how I can get the audio into premiere properly without doing what I'm doing now?

...or, always look at the timecode display in the viewfinder or the LCD before you press REC. The nice display will ALWAYS indicate when you've reset the timecode. If the display is 00:00:00.00 or similar and you are NOT the very beginning of the tape, pressing record will start a new time code sequence everytime.
If you have END SEARCH, use it. this will usually work as long as you haven't removed the tape. Either way, rewinding the tape until a non-zero timecode appears and then pressing REC works. The camera will increment the timecode from that value..
I'm not at my editting station, but I seem to remember that PPPro has a capture setting that will cause it to ignore timecode breaks--you then edit out the rough section at each break when editing. Unless you're going to do something clever like recapturing HDV after capturing SD, you're not going to use the timecode anyway.
Then in the future, always look at the timecode display before you press REC. There is really no reason to stripe if you always remember this.

DVHSCap to Capture HDV VIdeo

FCP does not support the JVC GR-HD1U but I have found that people have been successful capturing the video through Apple's DVHSCap then converting the data to .m2t transport files using MPEG Streamclip (I will post what I read below). I have downloaded DVHSCap but cannot figure out how to capture the vide from my camcorder. If anyone is familiar with DVHSCap I would very much appreciate some advice. Thank you all very much for your time!
Andrew
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Iam looking for the correct FCP set ups for digitizing HD from the
JVC JY-HD10 .recorded on the camera in HD mode.
I can get camera control -FFW -ply- rewind- but no video in the digitiz window?
FCP 4.5 1.33 G4 powerbook 1 gig ram
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Apple and FCP 4.5 do not yet officially support JVC's HDV camcorders.
However, I have had very good results, over the past year, using Apple Development software to capture HDV files from my GR-HD1U. Then using free-ware software to convert the resulting .m2t transport files to QuickTime .mov files. I then drop the QT.mov files into an FCP bin and edit as usual using FCP.
I use Apple's DVHSCap application to capture HDV camcorder data tapes via firewire and convert the data to .m2t transport files. DVHSCap (for Panther) can be obtained by going to:
www.apple.com/firewire/
click on 'FireWire SDK 19 for Mac OS X (Download)
double click XFireWireSDK19e.pkg (to install the SDK)
DVHSCap (and similar VirtualDVHS) can be found in
/Developer/FireWireSDK19/Applications/
I also use a freeware program 'MPEG Streamclip 1.0.1', which is available from:
http://www.alfanet.it/squared5/mpegstreamclip.html
I use MPEG Streamclip to:
1) Locate clips of interest and set their 'in' and 'out' points,
2) Set the, optional, number of 'bad lines' to crop from the sides and top of each frame,
3) Re-scale, if desired, to 720p or 1080p,
4) Export to QuickTime...
5) Drop the resulting QT.mov file, which contains synced 'video and audio' data, into an FCP bin.

I don't have experience with your JVC format or deck but here is something you may want to read.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/FCP6HD_and_BroadcastFormats.pdf
Page 19
*Important: If your computer has a PCI graphics card installed and you are logging or*
*capturing HDV footage, Final Cut Pro does not preview video or audio in the Log and*
*Capture window. You can still log and capture, but you need to use your HDV camcorder*
*display to preview video.*
I realize you have 5.1 but read this entire section on HDV, it could help.
Good Luck
Z1

Trying to capture HDV with a Canon HV30 CS4

I am new to this HD video.Im trying to capture to PPRO cs4 and not sure what settings to use.When I first start out I have my new project set to HDV after that it takes me to new sequence panel there I have selected the preset HDV 1080p30 (Im hoping this is correct) after this I go to the capture panel there I select where to put the video and I also select HDV.When I try to capture the video does not show on the PPRO preview screen but it does capture the video and run the camera from there. The camera is set to HDV output and while its capturing it shows a fire wire symbol on the camera screen and says something like HDV out
Just like to know if Im doing everything correct.'
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Had you read the manual or help file on capturing HDV, you would have seen that there is no preview during capture with HDV material. I suggest you read the manual from front to cover to get acquainted with this program and watch tutorials. It will make your editing experience much nicer.

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