Basic qns on Business Objects

Hi Experts,
I'm new to CRM & ERP thus my question might seem rudimentary to you guys. But that means easy pts to score as well!
Business partners and products are types of Business Objects. THe list of B.O. types can be found in SWO1correct? Where (which transaction) can I find the list of instances of B.O e.g. all defined instances of business partners?
Thanks,
ZM

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Need to use business objects with a project, please guide on basics.

Hello
I am a dotnet developer (asp.net with C#). I am sorry I dont know much about Business objects. Our client a financial firm wants to use Business object with a web based application. I couldn't got a clear and good understanding of Business object. The client just said Business objects allows dynamically creating reports even clients can create reports very easily even without knowing SQL.
Kindly guide me about Business Object product and its what component I should check for using it. Please mention some links that can give me introduction.
Thanks a lot,
haansi

Hi
Business Objects is not just one tool. You should ask your client what they will use e.g. Crystal Reports or Web Intelligence.
Here you can see half an hour Webinars that give you a good understanding of Business Objects:
Webinars
Regards
Roland

SAP Business Objects - Basic Guidance

Hi Guys,
I am working on SAP BI from the last 6 months and I know how to design a model in BI...extract data and create reports in BI.
Now, our company has purchased Business Objects and I have to deliver the reports in the same..
I have installed all the software which is required and now I have to do reports in SAP BOBJ.
So..Can you pl.guide me and is there any guidance material on ow to create reports .
As far as I know...there r three ways to create reports...
crystal reports
Dash Boards
WEBI Reports.
Is that correct? If it is...can u pl.let me know the steps for each one of them...
If not..pl.let me know the different types of reports in Business Objects and the steps for each one of them...
I really apprecitate if some one can help me out in this...

Hi,
Here are few links...
Save them in your favorite or download to your computer.
BusinessObjects Enterprise InfoView User Guide
[http://help.sap.com/businessobject/product_guides/boexir31/en/xi3-1_bip_user_en.pdf]
Building Reports Using the Web Intelligence Java Report Panel
[http://help.sap.com/businessobject/product_guides/boe65/en/webintelligence.pdf]
Crystal Report2008 User's Guide
[http://www.businessobjects.com/jump/xi/gettingstarted/users_guide_cr2008.pdf]
Crystal Xcelsius User Guide
[http://resources.businessobjects.com/support/cx/samples/learning/downloads/xcelsius_pro_userguide_en.pdf]
Wish you Good Luck...
Bashir Awan

Integartion of Business objects explorer with ABAP ALV

Hello all,
We have a requirement to integrate one of our applications with business objects explorer. The complete details is as listed below:
1. Our application basically collects feedback provided by users and then displays an ALV with all the feedback ratings received for a topic.
2. It summarizes to the user the average rating received, number of 1star ratings , 2 star ratings etc.,
3. Instead of showing this in the ALV format we have requirement where we want to upload this data into the Business Objects explorer so that the user has a more user-friendly and intutive display of the same data rather than in a ALV.
Any inputs on how we can trigger business objects explorer from ABAP code and pass the data in the internal table used for ALV display to it would be very helpful.
Warm Regards,
Naveen M

HI Naveen,
there has been a demo of this by Enterprise Geeks during TechED 2009 and the code is posted on their website.
the other option is to export the data to Excel and then use BusinessObjects Explorer in the cloud for example.
ingo

In business object what is the use of Interface

hi ppl,
In each business object there is a interface what can we do with that. When i used wizards like dynamic parallel processing it asked for wizards what is the actual use of interfaces.

Hi Dheepak,
I have an overview on interfaces. Someone pls correct me if i am wrong here.
Interfaces are generally used to group a set of attributes and methods that can be used across different business objects. You can create your own interfaces in SWO1 and when you include these interfaces in business objects you get all these attributes and methods in the business objects (Inheritance). Its basically for re-usability of the code(Reusability). Apart from that if required you can implement your own code for the methods thus maintaining the same name with a different logic for your BO (Polymorphism).
For example assume that you have a "Display" method and a few attributes in an interface. The "Display" method is used to display a particular transaction. Now you can include this interface in any BO and all these attributes and methods will be available in that BO with their respective implementation code. Now if you want the method to form a different action in any particular BO you can go ahead and redefine this code in that BO. This redefinition will not affect other BO's that had implemeted this same interface. All other BOs which had implemented this interface will continue to function as per the implementation code defined in the interface. This makes sure that the same method works in different ways in different BO's (Polymorphism)
Supertype<-->Subtype delegation will allow us to inherit the supertype/subtype methods/attributes but it does not allow us to change the underlying code in individual BOs. Hence polymorphism cant be acheived here
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Business Objects, external services and application services in CAs

Hi All,
right now we are developing our first eSOA Composite Application with CE and I have some questions regarding Business Objects, the import of external services and the development of application services.
As I understood there are two ways to provide business functionality for composite applications:
a. Import backend functionality as an external service (e.g. BAPI, RFC) at the CAF, build the application service which can be used as a callable object for UIs or the GPs
b. Develop a local Business Object (in CAF) providing the business logic, create the application service which again can be used as a callable object. Furthermore the application service can be exposed as a Web Service (external service).
My questions:
1. When is it appropriate to to import external services in stead of developing local BOs?
2. Under what conditions is it advisable to (solely) develop local BOs?
3. What are the advantages / disadvantages regarding the reusability of the services (in option a and b)?
Note: We are developing on NetWeaver 2004s.
Please let me know, if you need more information to answer the questions!
Thanks for your advice in advance,
Regards,
Ivonne

Hi Ivonne,
first of all, the CAF Business Objects (BOs) itself don't contain any business logic, they're basically just local database tables (with some CRUD services on top).
Business logic is implemented in Application Services (AS).
Now, regarding local BO's vs. external services, it depends on your use case. If the data is already available somewhere in your backend system it makes sense to use external services. For instance you wouldn't want to store business partners all over different composites. For data that is specific to your composite (in particular configuration, customizing etc.) and not likely to be reused by other applications you should use local BOs.
Accessing local BO's is also much faster than calling external services.
You can do reuse in both scenarios, since the CAF services can be exposed as web services.
Regards,
Christian
Edited by: Christian Loos on Apr 8, 2008 6:11 PM

Multiple Custom Synch Plugins For Same Business Object

Can I make multiple plugins for the same business object? The main reason I'm asking is because I want to have one item plugin that runs before the core item data synchs and another item plugin that runs after.
Since the topic's here, if multiple plugins can be written, which order would two plugins run if they are both set to go off after the core synch?

That answers half of my question, although just to verify:
The only issue is the before synch plugin may not have it's data in SBO (eg new order from webtools). If the data initiated in SBO then you should be fine.
As far as I can tell, you're basically saying that if you're working with data in SBO in a plugin that's set to PluginExecutionLocation.BeforeSynch, be cautious of the fact that new data from Web Tools will not have the plugin run against it because it will arrive after the standard synch brings it over. I would assume the same would be true for the reverse, in that any new data in SBO that's not yet in Web Tools will also not have the plugins run against it for the same reason.
Also, let's say I create two SynchPlugins for Items and set both of their SynchRunTime fields to PluginExecutionLocation.AfterSynch - which one runs first? Or is it indeterminable each time?

Using JSP, how to add new items to Fuego Business Object "Group" ?

Given the classic Fuego Business Object (FBO) example of an Order, which has a few attributes (orderNumber, customerName, Order Date) and a GROUP attribute called OrderItems (ItemName, ItemPrice, etc.), I want to use a JSP to allow user to submit order. My JSP has a form and uses the Fuego Tag Library. There are FORM INPUT elements for Order.orderNumber, Order.customerName, Order.OrderDate, and a table using dynamic HTML to add rows and INPUT elements for new items to add to the GROUP attribute OrderItems - ItemName, ItemPrice, etc.)
But when the user wants to add "OrderItems" to the order, I don't know how to get Fuego to create OrderItem Objects to add to the array (aka GROUP).
Thx in advance.

###### below is the response I response I received from a BEA Engineer. From looking at the html source of fuego presentations that implement desired functionality, it appears as though they handle it using the first suggested workaround below ######
Hi,
The short answer to your question is that there is no out of the box feature to support directly what you are asking for.
The problem is that JSPs receives a Fuego Object that is accessed at rendering time (JSP compilation/ HTML rendering). And then all the updated values are sent back to the engine in a new request when you hit the submit button of a FOR tag that has the postResult tag in the action attribute. At this point all these values are automatically taken from the request and the Fuego Object instance variable in the screenflow is updated.
After saying this you will notice that it doesnâ€™t make sense to update the Fuego Object instance on the JSP. Because you only could do this ate rendering time and because this instance is not going back to the engine (just the values).
Fuego Object tag Library was designed basically to be able to show Fuego Object data and invoke runs-on-server FO methods.
I see 3 different approaches to solve the problem you have:
1)Use JavaScript to call a runs-on-server method that recive the required arguments to extend the group and set the values. You should use the new tag called invokeUrl that allows you to use AjaX, in this way you could update the page with partial rendering.
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albpm5.7\studio\samples\Integration\Portlets\PFoodDelivery.fpr
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Business Objects(BOs) & Data Transfer Objects(DTOs)-both needed ?

In a J2EE system...
I know that "Business Objects" (BOs) are basically value objects (VOs) ...lots of getters and setters and some business logic. These are basically to model nouns in the system. Eg Student BO.
I know that "Data Transfer Objects" (DTOs) are value objects (VOs)....with getters and setters... with the purpose of avoiding multiple method calls...to avoid overhead...which effects performance. eg it's better to pass a Student DTO then say...pass the student ID and student name and student age etc etc.
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Hi,
I've started using BO's and DTO's since 3 months .With my experiece i understand we nned both of them.
The BusinessObject represents the data client. It is the object that requires access to the data source to obtain and store data.
DTO
This represents a Transfer Object used as a data carrier. The DataAccessObject may use a Transfer Object to return data to the client. The DataAccessObject may also receive the data from the client in a Transfer Object to update the data in the data source.
From this i want to tell you that We are not gonna do any operation on BO's but we do operations on DTO
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Use a dynamic list of email addresses to email a report via Business Objects Server 11

Post Author: wolfgang666
CA Forum: General
I use Business Objects Server version 11 to distribute reports via email but was asked if there was a way to only send the reports to those people listed in the report (which changes daily) instead of the entire distribution list. I can create a list of email addresses as a variable within the report but can't find any way to pass it to the Business Objects server "To:" field located in the destination screen. I would expect to see some option for sending to some value located in the report but alas no such option is evident. This seems like a feature the product should be capable of doing as it is so basic. Any other way to do this that anybody can think of? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Matt Frazier

Hi Alan,
The simplest thing would be to simply use the Import Wizard to create a BIAR file and then back up the required CR's and instances to the BIAR file. So for instance you would use the "Import Folders and Objects" option. So the source system would be the system you are decomissioning and the Destination would be the BIAR file. Once that is done you can use the BIAR file to import the report content into another system in the future.
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Kind regards,
John
Edited by: Matt on Oct 10, 2011 10:20 AM

Business Objects in general

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Server Intelligence Agent won't start after repair of Business Objects 4.0

I migrated our company's business objects contents and documents from previous BO 3.1 server to new BI 4.0 server using standard BI tools. (That is, using the export wizard in BO 3.1 to create BIAR file and using upgrade management tool to import this biar file to new BI 4.0 server).
After that, everything looks fine, I can log in to launch pad and can see all the folders, reports, etc have been moved over.
But Life Cycle Management stopped working. I guess the reason is, when I created the biar file from source 3.1 server, I basically included everything that may include LCM folder as well, and this folder overwrite the LCM folder in BI 4.0 server. In order to fix this issue, I did "repair" of BI platform. After this, the Server Intelligen Agent won't start.
Tried to log on to cmc, got error message
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Tried to start the Server Intelligence Agent from "services", got message:"windows could not start the server intelligence agent (servertest) from local computer..." Checked the event log, no much useful information.
Can anyone please give me some ideas? what might have caused this issue? where should I look to? I hope we don't have to go through uninstall/reinstall.
thanks.

Hi,
check the Task Manager if you have running the processes running "SIA.exe" ans "cms.exe"
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SAP Business Objects Performance Tuning Guides

Hello everyone,
I'm currently looking for Performance Tuning guides for the hardware/software. In particular, parameters for the hardware. I'm having a hard time finding any kind of guides on the server side of Business Objects. So I'm wondering if anybody knows of some that are available on the internet or SAP site?
I've found very few in the software department. However, I'm looking more for the hardware portion of Business Objects. Basically the goal is to get the server as optimal as possible (As far as memory, parameters, CPU, etc) is concerned so we know it can't be a hardware issue. It's kind of narrowing down the potential problems we can have later on down the road so that's why this is very important right now.
Any help with this will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -Victor
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Here´s an updated version of that document:
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/50770d8f-5606-3010-28a6-9e3bb14ec6a7?QuickLink=index&…
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InfoView Timeout Crystal Report Server 2008 Business Objects 3.1

After two days of digging, poking, prodding and fumbling around in the dark I finally found a method (one that actually works!) to change the timeout period for InfoView. Venkat Patnaik (second message) posted an excellent procedure in a place that is not readily apparent:
/message/8250448#8250448 [original link is broken]
Following his method, my InfoView seems to timeout after about 3 minutes. I am going to play with the settings to see if I can get it dialed in a bit more, but I wanted to post this so there is a thread with a relevant subject so people can find Venkat's excellent post. Thanks Venkat!

Wow I am getting really tired of SAP's constant broken links and moving things around. That link worked great a couple of weeks ago when I posted this message. I did some digging around for that particular thread but I was not able to find it this morning. Maybe it was deleted....
Luckily I documented my procedure for making these changes and I did not stray from Ventak's original procedure except for making paths and such specific to my environment.
Basically the timeout values need to be changed in several places:
1. Stop the TomCat server via the Central Configuration Manager before doing anything else.
2. Modify the web.xml file in each of the following directories:
C:\Program Files\Business Objects\Tomcat55\webapps\InfoViewApp\WEB-INF\web.xml
C:\Program Files\Business Objects\Tomcat55\webapps\InfoViewAppActions\WEB-INF\web.xml
C:\Program Files\Business Objects\Tomcat55\webapps\CmcApp\WEB-INF\web.xml
C:\Program Files\Business Objects\Tomcat55\webapps\CmcAppActions\WEB-INF\web.xml
Parameters to change:
***This parameter may not exist in all web.xml files.***

    <context-param>
        <param-name>logontoken.enabled</param-name>
        <param-value>true</param-value> (Change to false)
    </context-param>

    <session-config>
        
        <session-timeout>20</session-timeout>   (Change to 5)
    </session-config>
3. Modify the registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Business Objects\Suite 12.0\CMS\Instances\<SERVER NAME> u2013 IdleSessionTimeout=0x927C0 (600000)
The key is a REG_DWORD value and the value is in hexadecimal. Set the timeout value to 90,000 ms u2013 1.5 minutes with the value 0x15F90. You can use other hex values as desired, 90,000 ms worked for me.
4. Restart the TomCat server.
5. Add the following command line parameter to the CrystalManagementServer parameters in the server properties window of the Central Management Console <-failovertimeout 1.5>
6. Restart the CrystalManagementServer via the CMC
Good luck, let me know if you have any questions.

Requirements and Architecture for Business Objects Universe

Hi - apologies in advance for the probable repeat question but a search of the forums brought back an overload of information that wasn't quite specific enough.
We are about to purchase an application that comes with a Business Objects Universe but we've been told that we'll need to sort out our own licensing for the Client/Server side of its use.
I've done a lot of work with Crystal Reports in the past but having read up on Business Objects it appears that either the Desktop Intelligence of Web Intelligence clients are designed for the reporting facilities in BO.
Basically, the question is what exactly do we need to run reports from the BOU across the company AND what server architecture is required/recommended for the same?
As I see it, the BOU is the equivalent of an ORM layer in software development. This would mean we'd have:
DATABASE
UNIVERSE
REPORTING CLIENT
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Also is there any ballpark figure for the server and client licence costs? Assuming 5 developers and up to 300 users (although it may only be management needing viewer access so possibly only a dozen users on top of the developers in that case).
I've tried to work this out for myself but there seems to be a lot of confusion around what is Business Objects (the product) and who Business Objects the company are and where Crystal fits in with everything.
For a bog-standard implementation of a BOU what is absolutely necessary?
Thanks
Nic

Hi Nic,
As you've described Universe is a meta data layer in between Database and Reporting Layer. You could create reports using Desktop Intelligence, Web Intelligence, Web Intelligence Rich Client and even Crystal Reports. DeskI, WebI Rich, Crystal Reports do require client installations and you have an added advantage of using local data sources like excel and create reports. WebI also creates reports but you don't need any separate client installer for it.
For the ball park figure I'd contact Sales Team...
Your question regarding what is absolutely necessary, there are lot more things need to be taken into consideration like below
1) What are the repeorting needs at a little detailed level?
How would it help: Though there are several reporting tools for users and their reporting needs, it helps in deciding on which of the reporting tools should be the prime ones. Like WebI can be used as Adhoc Reporting Tool once you design your universe.
2) Where would you want these reports to be deployed or on what portal do you want to see reports?
How would it help: It helps in deciding what should be the presentation layer for the reports and how it should be designed. Business Objects has InfoView portal that comes default where you can deploy DeskI, WebI, Crystal Reports. Or if you need to use an existing sharePoint portal you'd need Integration with Sharepoint software.
3) Do you need ETL tools to load your data?
How would it help: It helps in making recommendation on ETL process and if Business Objects Data Integrator is suitable for the scenario
Hope this would help.
Regards,
Vijay

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