Basic start date and scheduled finished date...can we have Planned date?

Is there any "Plan Start Date" in SAP, the date where scheduler must put manually in the system to determine the "committed" date for the work to be executed - based on earliest and latest start date which automatically calculated by SAP?
Our plant must keep the Basic Finish Date unchanged since it is the Required Date of the Work to finish. We found that the Plan Date does not change and I was wondering if there is any way we can have the Planned date on the order header or have the basic finish date unchanged?
Appreciate your advices

Hi
As per your query screen variant is the better option to be choose so that here you can go with user id based restriction
Attaching the complete the scenario
Transaction and Screen variants with an Example
http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-39667
Try these document & try to configure if you have any further please revert back.
Thanks & Regards
Sandeep Kumar Praharaj

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Greetings!!!!
Can you please guide me in "changes in basic start dates in Prod Ord".
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